Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 15060. (Read 26713688 times)

Sideways is boring, cmon we need drama we re addicted to that 

For average person I say 1% because the correct time frame is ten years.   People are impatient and also unrealistic, people gamble their revenue not profits when they know they have a big tax bill coming and actually alot of the bank balance is not theres come bill paying time.

Its coming upto 10 years since we thought all this would be over and its not.   Gold hasnt been a bad place to store value over the last ten years but its not really blown up as expected either.    Its not that Im bearish on the idea but liquidity is a problem for most and so the idea of 30% is a problem, its gambling which is oppisite to holding gold as a hedge to stability.     It could force people to sell at the wrong price and thats why people think gold is outdated when its just very slow moving.

I did used to post on a forum with a silver bug, this was before it went to $50 and they were making reference to house pricing and how at the bottom you could exchange 1000 ounces for a family home.     Theres all sorts of ratios,  oil to gold, silver to gold, interest rates vs inflation and I think ratios probably says more then just one figure

The Dow in gold ounces is another one and today the Dow is 26000 and gold is not even 10% of that.    So the bottom pricing there if I remember right, the lowest bearish scenario is 1 gold ounce to buy the Dow.
People immediately say or think well thats dam stupid and impossible, fools gold.    Its likely to repeat and its happened in 'recent' history, I think 1980 we had this.

Big events Carter, fallout of Nixon, failure of the gold standard and a strange failing economy.  And also gov debt rates in the double figures, so blood on the streets scenario.   Now we're at the polar oppisite, I do agree it'll repeat.

The relevance to Bitcoin is to also consider it in ratios more I think, it increases accuracy and reigns in pointless hype.   The 2008 housing problem could have been seen more clearly earlier if comparing house price to rental price as a ratio to show value, not presuming asset appreciation but considering value.    Now for Bitcoin, I think value is Sat/byte in ratio to speed perhaps and then contrast it vs other crypto contenders and of course account for mass transactional volume.  Does Visa beat Bitcoin for cost, speed and volume, I do think these are the measures to watch for an influence to macro moves in price and market interest.

Ummm... you realize that the project quoted in that tweet has nothing whatsoever to do with any of the leading implementations of Bitcoin Cash clients, right?

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Meanwhile, a rather balanced compare & contrast. From Vinny Lingham, even. whowouldathunkit?

https://vinnylingham.com/a-tale-of-two-bitcoins-20375d49d3d3

Poor idiot did it in 2012 for peanuts. If he sold his thousands of BTC in 2016 he would not be shilling 24/7 here for stupid silver, trying to make a few bucks by raising the silver price by a percentage.

I thought that Roach did his fire sale trade of BTC into PMs, such as gold and silver, in about early 2016-ish - but still, similar results as doing the same in 2012, which is that bitcoin has performed way better than PMs, such as gold and silver.

On the other hand, there is still time to get back into bitcoin, even though Roach (and any other traditional PM pumping dumb asses like Peter Schiff)  already lost a whole hell of a lot of opportunity - something like 30x since early 2016, no?

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It's so weird that kraken is a functional trading platform now. Woke up to someone wanting me to sell their btc for them, made a few hundred bucks before I was fully awake. And it didn't take an hour of frustration for once.

It's ok because they're moving to quasi-closed source software https://twitter.com/bhec39/status/952940466290425856

@Bitcoin___Cash
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Replying to @bhec39 @deadalnix @ChrisPacia

This was supposed to be a secret we needed a way to get rid of deadalnix after the EDA fiasco then calling rank on the DAA, them embarrassing us by being called out by jimmy song and now seems the blocks are randomly changing sizes and he has no clue you have to understand why

chill out bro~ we are making it great again..stay tuned ha

Looking at the beecash blocks that some times are 1mb, 2mb, 4mb or 7.9mb (mempool is full, and the network should be producing only ~7.9mb blocks), I was wondering what type of algorithm the miners use to decide this. Apparently it happens "randomly" even though miners set it at 8mb fixed... lol?

https://github.com/Bitcoin-ABC/bitcoin-abc/issues/156

https://twitter.com/verretor/status/952901265402589184

Plenty of trolling going on...

мoлoдeц

ftfy

But nobody likes America 

@HaggardHawks
13m13 minutes ago

To LIGGLE is to struggle to carry something that is too heavy.

Apparently the fork will be on block number 505 888. Anyone know what date that will be approximately?

EDIT: Never mind, found it, and some more info.

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Nice for trade now : BCA = 0.100246 BTC(about $ $1,368.67)

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More free money 

We will always have kauri/ cowry shells to fall back on. I bought one on Ebay the other day, just in case.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cypraea-Monetaria-Moneta-grande-taille-taille-33-X-22-X-16-mm/282787414396?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

America has alot more in the ground ~ just sayin :-D g'morning sir*

This is hilarious: BTC vs. eth vs. fiat:

https://i.imgur.com/iqXK9mU.gif

That would be 8,500 T for the US and 2,000 T pour China and Russia, not 8T and 2T.

but the US gold is reputed of 'poor quality' ... some even say that Fort Knox is empty.