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hero member
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okex has published a note that they handle UBTC from now on.
Beside on ub.com they published the wallets, source and everything.

What else do you want ? Looks like a grand opening to me.


I'm thinking of the second distribution. I'm impressed anyone got any considering the evil minds behind it. I'm also impressed at how consistently priced all the forks are. The two I got rid were both in the 0.01 range as is UBTC.

Actually ... I was thinking about this. There are plenty of asks stepped to 0.02 0.03 0.04 etc... and a whole buch of bids at 0.01 ... I think people are taking position waiting for the first move,  i.e. a big pump ; maybe we have the chance to see it before it actually happens ?

Unfortunately as the electrum wallet failed to work properly, I need another 40 hours or so to get in that game Sad

Should we recheck our addresses? Do we have distribution?

huh? I don't get what you mean. UB made a snapshot of the blockchain at block 498777  ... whatever you had in the chain at that height should be there. Mine are.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
...you pack of pussies.

That's "Mister Mangina" to you.

Have you switched to almond milk in your chai latte?
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
It’s the first week back in January you pack of pussies.  Oh no ! My coins are worth what they were worth 20 days ago!

Why don’t you have a look at what happened to Ripple, pretender to the throne?  Have a look at the scaling problems that Ethereum has, much worse than BTC.  For shits and giggles, have a go at synching the entire Ethereum blockchain and see how far you get.   Or maybe try creating a smart contract in Cardano and see what happens.

When the tide goes out, and it will, all these other pretenders will be naked. 
member
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"Return to normal" just passed by and we may be on the way down to the floor.

But i thought the same thing around at 4k USD and was wrong Cheesy

Haha, thank you for that. Too many times people make blanket statements on here without any explanation of their thought process or the logic behind it. Or even worse, a screenshot of a trading view with nothing else accompanying it. Those times I wonder what's the point, to prove they can take a screenshot?

There are a lot of smart people on this thread, it's the reason I've followed it for years; even before being able to afford my first bit of btc. For someone who isn't a trader by trade (ha), it's nice to have insight into why others on here think the price will move one way or another (even if they are wrong sometimes  Wink )
newbie
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How much effect would you guys think that segwit2x is going to offer? Im really not sure if I should still HODL or diversify now to altcoins. It's like I lost money already, but more gains the better.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 254
okex has published a note that they handle UBTC from now on.
Beside on ub.com they published the wallets, source and everything.

What else do you want ? Looks like a grand opening to me.


I'm thinking of the second distribution. I'm impressed anyone got any considering the evil minds behind it. I'm also impressed at how consistently priced all the forks are. The two I got rid were both in the 0.01 range as is UBTC.

Actually ... I was thinking about this. There are plenty of asks stepped to 0.02 0.03 0.04 etc... and a whole buch of bids at 0.01 ... I think people are taking position waiting for the first move,  i.e. a big pump ; maybe we have the chance to see it before it actually happens ?

Unfortunately as the electrum wallet failed to work properly, I need another 40 hours or so to get in that game Sad

Should we recheck our addresses? Do we have distribution?
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 540
okex has published a note that they handle UBTC from now on.
Beside on ub.com they published the wallets, source and everything.

What else do you want ? Looks like a grand opening to me.


I'm thinking of the second distribution. I'm impressed anyone got any considering the evil minds behind it. I'm also impressed at how consistently priced all the forks are. The two I got rid were both in the 0.01 range as is UBTC.

Actually ... I was thinking about this. There are plenty of asks stepped to 0.02 0.03 0.04 etc... and a whole buch of bids at 0.01 ... I think people are taking position waiting for the first move,  i.e. a big pump ; maybe we have the chance to see it before it actually happens ?

Unfortunately as the electrum wallet failed to work properly, I need another 40 hours or so to get in that game Sad
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 254

I'm in a position where I'm preparing to sell some corn in February. I'm not tickled about these prices.


et tu Rosewater?

what is it with you pansies?  HODL goddammit!

I've been planning to take 10% off the table for years. It's time.  Cry
newbie
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Holy moly ETH is really going crazy. Looks unstoppable. Wish I had converted to ETH as BTC was at 19k Grin
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
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legendary
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diamond-handed zealot

I'm in a position where I'm preparing to sell some corn in February. I'm not tickled about these prices.


et tu Rosewater?

what is it with you pansies?  HODL goddammit!
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 3056
Welt Am Draht
okex has published a note that they handle UBTC from now on.
Beside on ub.com they published the wallets, source and everything.

What else do you want ? Looks like a grand opening to me.


I'm thinking of the second distribution. I'm impressed anyone got any considering the evil minds behind it. I'm also impressed at how consistently priced all the forks are. The two I got rid were both in the 0.01 range as is UBTC.
sr. member
Activity: 392
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Are these Mexico prices, brother. Are you still hitting the bricks soonish?

No. Just regular USD/CAD quotes from the usual sources.

I'm not going to Mexico until Thursday. That's why my presence here has been spotty lately. Busy making preps.

I hate selling any Bitcoin but I wanted some extra travel cash so I sold a little on Saturday. Not only did I luck out on catching a peak, but I got a great fee. Not only was it my first negative sell fee, it did it all in one transaction for one transaction fee.



Life is good.

I'm in a position where I'm preparing to sell some corn in February. I'm not tickled about these prices.
legendary
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Yesterday's dump was the most hilarious fiasco I've ever seen.

My partner was asking about the crash yesterday, and all I was able to respond with was some mumbled grumblings about "South Korea", "CoinMarketCap", and "Panic Selling" - not quite being able to clearly articulate what was going on.

After a few moments (... I tend to ramble on...) I was able to finally sum it up as "A bunch of weak hands got flushed and a bunch of stupid people panic SODL'd because CMC changed stuff, making it look like the prices of shitcoins crashed", to which, he shrugged, and got back to playing Candy Crush on his iPhone.

I believe that the supposed "crash" is more easily summed up as normal consolidation.

Perhaps our more narrow consolidation range is $13,000 to $17,500 and the broader consolidation range is $11k to $20k.

Maybe you can get a little excited if we break beyond the more narrow consolidation range - but the more meaningful excitement woudl come from breaking beyond the broader consolidation range.


Anyhow, what I am trying to say is that you should tell your partner to shut the fuck up and stop bothering you about petty matters because nothing significant is happening yet, until we perhaps get close to the boundaries of one of the consolidation ranges - in one direction or another - and for now, we are largely bouncing around in the white noise middle.


 Wink


I like you. 

 I'm going to venture that however, you would not if you two were in a relationship.
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
The situation with ATMs is pretty much reflecting the actual-demand-on-the-streets... sellers aren't selling and need extra incentives, buyers are willing to buy at much higher premiums.

ATM companies know that they can't really make money on commissions if they don't have bitcoins to sell, and they won't really acquire bitcoins if they can't be tempting enough on their prices that they buy from people. So they need to get those bitcoins, even if at a premium, in order to have something to sell to those who want to buy (and thus make money on the buyer).

We have a situation analogous to precious metals a few years ago when the street market was not correlated with the spot prices - but this is in a greater degree now with BTC.

I think it has most to do with operators trying to keep a balanced inventory. During rallies like last Saturday, bitcoins are at a premium so they raise buy rates and lower sell rates. During panic dumps like the example I posted from last August, the operators have an excess of coins relative to their fiat supply, so they lower buy fees and raise sell fees. It also means that panickers and FOMOers pay a premium for their foolishness while cool holders get a bargain.

The 2 examples I gave are extremes but if you play it right, the ATMs are cheaper than transferring fiat to and from exchanges and paying the exchange fee.  Of course this only works if you're buying dips and selling peaks.

The big advantages of using ATMs though are security, anonymity and instant gratification.
full member
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3day chart seems to be drawing the perfect bubble...

In what way? Looks exactly like December 26th-28th, almost exactly where it is today except a bit higher. So, breaking bubbling upwards... again?

edit: further thoughts/ramblings, and grammar

In the way the perfect anatomy of a bubble is described. Doesn't certainly mean we are going to crash. But currently it's not looking to bright.

Elaborate. There are multiple phases of a bubble, which do you see/think we are in? First sell off? Return to the mean? Both of those are right before great increases => bullish.

"Return to normal" just passed by and we may be on the way down to the floor.

But i thought the same thing around at 4k USD and was wrong Cheesy

The second 'bump' was higher than the first, don't think that is what happens in a bubble... Also it is true that we are going down a lot but at this price 5% swings are huge, so might really be consolidation me hopes
hero member
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3day chart seems to be drawing the perfect bubble...

In what way? Looks exactly like December 26th-28th, almost exactly where it is today except a bit higher. So, breaking bubbling upwards... again?

edit: further thoughts/ramblings, and grammar

In the way the perfect anatomy of a bubble is described. Doesn't certainly mean we are going to crash. But currently it's not looking to bright.

Elaborate. There are multiple phases of a bubble, which do you see/think we are in? First sell off? Return to the mean? Both of those are right before great increases => bullish.

"Return to normal" just passed by and we may be on the way down to the floor.

But i thought the same thing around at 4k USD and was wrong Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 3056
Welt Am Draht
Trying to send some UBTC with the Electrum wallet from the UB's page =>
error => "the transaction was rejected by network rules.\n\nMissing input"

Ok. Garzik's software strikes again.

How did you get UBTC? It doesn't launch until later in the month.
legendary
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17% buyers fee ? -2% sellers fee ? That's outrageous !

You're getting fucked both ways !

Only buyers are getting fucked at those rates. Sellers are getting a kiss.

I wouldn't pay 17% to buy. I wouldn't pay 16.1% to sell either.



You've gotta shop around.

The situation with ATMs is pretty much reflecting the actual-demand-on-the-streets... sellers aren't selling and need extra incentives, buyers are willing to buy at much higher premiums.

ATM companies know that they can't really make money on commissions if they don't have bitcoins to sell, and they won't really acquire bitcoins if they can't be tempting enough on their prices that they buy from people. So they need to get those bitcoins, even if at a premium, in order to have something to sell to those who want to buy (and thus make money on the buyer).

We have a situation analogous to precious metals a few years ago when the street market was not correlated with the spot prices - but this is in a greater degree now with BTC.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 4197
Yesterday's dump was the most hilarious fiasco I've ever seen.

My partner was asking about the crash yesterday, and all I was able to respond with was some mumbled grumblings about "South Korea", "CoinMarketCap", and "Panic Selling" - not quite being able to clearly articulate what was going on.

After a few moments (... I tend to ramble on...) I was able to finally sum it up as "A bunch of weak hands got flushed and a bunch of stupid people panic SODL'd because CMC changed stuff, making it look like the prices of shitcoins crashed", to which, he shrugged, and got back to playing Candy Crush on his iPhone.

I believe that the supposed "crash" is more easily summed up as normal consolidation.

Perhaps our more narrow consolidation range is $13,000 to $17,500 and the broader consolidation range is $11k to $20k.

Maybe you can get a little excited if we break beyond the more narrow consolidation range - but the more meaningful excitement woudl come from breaking beyond the broader consolidation range.


Anyhow, what I am trying to say is that you should tell your partner to shut the fuck up and stop bothering you about petty matters because nothing significant is happening yet, until we perhaps get close to the boundaries of one of the consolidation ranges - in one direction or another - and for now, we are largely bouncing around in the white noise middle.


 Wink


I like you. 
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