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legendary
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I like a bear market every now and then, good redistribution for those with a bit of nerve - price always drops at new year, last day to pay fixed amounts on loans, plus pull out for tax. Make the most of it
legendary
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legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
I think what we've got is a couple things; old school whales doing some distribution, which is good, especially as the market seems to be digesting it, albeit with some gastric upset.  We also have many many thousands of brand new noobs with their shiny new trading accounts behaving just like we did years ago...pumpdump back and forth, learning the ropes and getting their thrills with a couple thousand bucks, that is what a lot of these nothingcoin pumps are about.
legendary
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Could play out something like this

Target 10 k in February, 6-7 k in April.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
So people are just whacking off and pumping/dumping things at random, aren't they?

packing up heading back into the real markets this shit is laughable i sold all around $19K :-D weee>_> n00bz NEVER listen~

O.k.  I will bite.

If what you are saying is really true, and you do happen to be some kind of smartie pants wizard because you sold at $19,665 (dollar short of the top), then do you have any planned scenario in which you would get back in, set of events or a price target, or do you just make these allegedly "genius" plays by the seat your pants (and perhaps "intuition?)?
legendary
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So people are just whacking off and pumping/dumping things at random, aren't they?

packing up heading back into the real markets this shit is laughable i sold all around $19K :-D weee>_> n00bz NEVER listen~


Is this is gembitz? This your bear account?
full member
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Deb Rah Von Doom
Never sell 100%. If fiat collapses tomorrow or all the banks and exchanges take your money then you are left with nothing. 90% is okay not 100%. If you must do 100% then you can keep coins on chain and short somewhere else to hedge it.
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BITCOIN===>THE DISRUPTIVE CYBERCURRENCY
So people are just whacking off and pumping/dumping things at random, aren't they?

packing up heading back into the real markets this shit is laughable i sold all around $19K :-D weee>_> n00bz NEVER listen~
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
So people are just whacking off and pumping/dumping things at random, aren't they?

Apparently so.



But at some point those who don't want to keep their riches in the shitcoin of the day will have to go back to daddy.
full member
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Deb Rah Von Doom


Could play out something like this
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Even though a vast majority of us were predicting a kind of $20k to $24k range - which was at least 10% more than the then price, that does NOT mean that we changed our buy/sell (hodl) strategy in any kind of meaningful way.  So in some sense many of us might make a prediction or have a hunch, but we may only play that hunch on the margins,

(snip)

Hodling and accumulating of BTC is likely to be the most profitable in the long run

The alternatives are either tricky/risky (timing the market with any reliability) or a bit more involved (laddered sell/buy on up/down ramps, à la JayJuanGee or jbreher).

Of course, it is possible to have some small fraction of "play money" traded on margin just to see how it works out. It usually doesn't work out right, but it depends on more than one factor.

I personally think that my system is close to fool proof - and serves as a kind of downward insurance more than a means to accumulate BTC (even though it seems like it has ended up doing both for me).  

Anyhow, I do understand the mindset that the sell on the way up and buy on the way down system does not really work in the real world.

In the real world, I try to explain to several real world peeps, and peeps tend to have a kind of common emotional (I am smarter) problem of constantly attempting to play with too much of their stash and risking too much and tweaking in the wrong way to gamble too much because they are trying to get rich quick and time the price movements of the market rather than setting up their buy / sell order system in a more emotionally neutral way.

So, maybe in the end, you are correct because real world peeps have a kind of inability to remove their emotion and they do not want to set up their orders like as if they were a robot?  So maybe in the end, I try to act as if I am a human, but I got some kind of robot in me?  Perhaps?  Hey, hey hey,... I am just kidding, I am not robot.  I have had several experiences over the years where I made mistakes and I tried to tweak my system here or there to time the market.   But I learned from those experiences and just stopped engaging in that behavior - except very minimally, and sometimes, even if you make some "human" mistakes, you can also step back and make up for some of those mistakes too, by changing some of the orders around (quantity and/or spacing).. and frequently let the market come to you, rather than trying to force matters.
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
So people are just whacking off and pumping/dumping things at random, aren't they?
member
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BITCOIN===>THE DISRUPTIVE CYBERCURRENCY
full member
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Will go down till mid January, after that it will go up... My 2 cents.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/2010

Interesting natter here re changing Bitcoin's billing on bitcoin.org in light of the fee situation.
member
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Cripple train is derailing.  So fascinating... Really fun to watch though.  Looking for the big pump from the rats leaving the burning ship.
member
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BITCOIN===>THE DISRUPTIVE CYBERCURRENCY
Bitstamps pumped back up to $13000!

Maybe I missed my chance to panic sell at the bottom.

Is it time to ask who sold at the bottom yet?

I panic sold a little bit on Gdax 6 hours ago near the bottom. So naturally we are going to moon now. Grin

ripple and stellar leading the way? lol you know crypto is doomed when two shits that are not even coins are dominating the market :\ go crawl in a hole\\\
legendary
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Merit: 11519
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Bitcoin is going to retest december low, because for the first time I voted other than lowest choice in thread poll. (20,000-$22,000) when i voted for the lowest variant, it always made new ATH

Im sorry Angry

You caused this?

You fucker!!!!    Angry Angry Angry
I promise I'll vote lowest option in the next poll again. just in case

But at least i got a chance to buy small amount of BTC after long time of waiting. bit by bit, hopefully i can get back to whole bitcoins some day.
my first goal is 1BTC and the next stop 2.1.

Well, I am glad that it worked out for you.

As far as BTC accumulation, sure it is good to have goals in terms of the quantity of bitcoins that you would like to achieve, and I also create goals for myself regarding the quantity of bitcoins that I would like to retain.

So I use an Excel spreadsheet that has several tabs and ways to project my cash flow and also projecting my continued placing of fiat into my BTC funds with any extra cashflow that I am able to achieve and also projecting ballpark estimates for the quantity of bitcoins sold as the price is anticipated to go up and as the price reaches certain higher price points. 

Of course, I have projections that go in both price directions, but in the past two years, the up direction seems to have been the most relevant and the most frequently being revised based on what has happened in the BTC market, including a much above expectations 78x BTC price increase from $250 to $19,666.

So with the passage of time, I can see that whatever the fuck that I am doing in my selling on the way up and buying on the way down is causing BTC accumulation and retention of more and more bitcoins at certain projected price points that have ended up materializing, too in a much quicker than anticipated way. 

In other words, the way that I set up my strategy has caused the need for higher and higher BTC prices to bring my quantity of BTC below certain pre-decided quantities that I consider to be important retention levels. 

None of these projections is really set in stone, but the projections do still serve as a means to monitor whether whatever I am doing is causing tangible positive results in the accumulation and retention arenas.
legendary
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Of course, it is possible to have some small fraction of "play money" traded on margin

Speaking of which, today Bitmex awarded BTC to their customers based on a margin snapshot taken on August 1st at the time of the BCH fork. The ratio is 0.1707 BTC for each BTC (BCH) of margin held at that time.

Over 17% return on play money. That's not shabby at all, is it?
legendary
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Merit: 1130
I was hoping to panic sell below $10000. Unfortunately it seems like I missed my only chance just before Christmas.

Why not set up a private panic sell for $1000 to someone on here? They might take some persuading but I think someone will relent.

Not as drama queeny as doing it on an exchange but you can name your low price.

How can I be sure it won't go lower after doing my OTC OCD panic sell?

Should I panic sell at one dollar a bitcoin to be certain of selling at the bottom?

Yes and I'll buy.

oh, and FTFY.  Wink
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