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legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
chill out, 10k$ is just a matter of days

with the upcoming forks of Bitcoin Silver, Bitcoin Diamond and Super Bitcoin the FOMO will be inevitable
and if that will not help, print more Tether!!!

You forgot Bitcoin Platinum.  Tongue

Good, let them. Soon nobody will give a shit about the forks anymore. Same as when the first normal alts started. Bitcoin just needs some time to build up its imunity.

But, but, what about Dogecoin? Koinye? Doesn't anyone care any more?  Grin
hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
Could it be...

Any curse of oak island fans here? Season 5 just started!

if you don't know Oak Island, check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island_mystery

edit: oh, to make it somehow related. I bet the big mystery of oak island is satoshis private key hidden deep inside of the money pit.


when is wikipedia going to start accepting bitcoin for donations? hmmm?   Roll Eyes  ~n00bs

It accepts Bitcoin for ages.

https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give#bitcoin

ok i see ya hidden~ they are certainly not promoting that in their current fund drive :\ hmm
legendary
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Perhaps before the split. Shots have been fired and the time for peaceful attempts is over.

Yeh, but they will say bitcoiners are nazis and blah blah. Just saying, I am a newcomer after all
A nazi is just someone you don't like. It's empty sophism. Just ignore it.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Could it be...

Any curse of oak island fans here? Season 5 just started!

if you don't know Oak Island, check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island_mystery

edit: oh, to make it somehow related. I bet the big mystery of oak island is satoshis private key hidden deep inside of the money pit.


when is wikipedia going to start accepting bitcoin for donations? hmmm?   Roll Eyes  ~n00bs

It accepts Bitcoin for ages.

https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give#bitcoin
member
Activity: 96
Merit: 14
chill out, 10k$ is just a matter of days

with the upcoming forks of Bitcoin Silver, Bitcoin Diamond and Super Bitcoin the FOMO will be inevitable
and if that will not help, print more Tether!!!

You forgot Bitcoin Platinum.  Tongue

Good, let them. Soon nobody will give a shit about the forks anymore. Same as when the first normal alts started. Bitcoin just needs some time to build up its imunity.
hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
chill out, 10k$ is just a matter of days

with the upcoming forks of Bitcoin Silver, Bitcoin Diamond and Super Bitcoin the FOMO will be inevitable
and if that will not help, print more Tether!!!

You forgot Bitcoin Platinum.  Tongue

BitcoinMoonrock my fav :-D weee
legendary
Activity: 4200
Merit: 4887
You're never too old to think young.
chill out, 10k$ is just a matter of days

with the upcoming forks of Bitcoin Silver, Bitcoin Diamond and Super Bitcoin the FOMO will be inevitable
and if that will not help, print more Tether!!!

You forgot Bitcoin Platinum.  Tongue
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 102
chill out, 10k$ is just a matter of days

with the upcoming forks of Bitcoin Silver, Bitcoin Diamond and Super Bitcoin the FOMO will be inevitable
and if that will not help, print more Tether!!!
full member
Activity: 137
Merit: 100
For your listening pleasure, Fuck World Trade!
Wel well, as the weekend is coming, the noob trolls are back to this thread, just like if this was their vacancy residence or something. Monday they all will be back at home.  Grin

Offtopic: after i dumped my remaining shitcoin at 0.4, my mind blown off and suddenly i remembered my 2013 username account!!! I just tried to login and surprise... That account was banned and my main account too, and i can not access this forum from my laptop because it is ip banned, wtf... This is the message i received:

"Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
Your account is locked because it sat inactive for years after the password hashes were leaked in 2015, and was therefore at high risk of being hacked. Email [email protected] to get it unlocked."

I sent a mail to Theymos a week ago but still not any response.. If anybody knows what else can i do will be really appreciated  Smiley

+1

I had the exact same experience a few weeks ago... also no reply yet
newbie
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A good read:

Bitcoin’s future – Money changes everything
https://bravenewcoin.com/news/bitcoins-future-money-changes-everything/

"Where the risks do lie, however, is in the debilitating effects on bitcoin specifically, caused by the now par-for-the-course social vitriol targeted at anybody who puts their hand up with a proposal on how bitcoin might be improved. After all, there are plenty of other currencies and crypto assets they could be dedicating their brainpower to, and it would be unfortunate for bitcoin if the public trolling saw the best and brightest assigning bitcoin to the too-hard basket in favour of more welcoming crypto communities"
legendary
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Merit: 4887
You're never too old to think young.
I don't mind jbreher's posts because they are easily refuted using facts. So I don't think he is to be feared. But I understand your points, after all it's a Bitcoin thread (arguably the best there is), and it should stay a Bitcoin thread. Altcoin supporters and Bitcoin haters can go post in the appropriate sections or start their own threads.

There will always be anti-Bitcoin FUD and pro-altcoin shilling here in the Wall Observer. The issue is the frequency and intensity.

Kwukduck generally only comes out during dips and generally doesn't post walls of text the way Jbreher does.

Most of us have come to look upon Kwuk as a comic-relief buffoon and are entertained by his drivel, but because Jbreher dresses his BS up with a pseudo-intellectual snottiness, it rubs people the wrong way.

Perhaps we should just stop feeding the troll by taking him so seriously.
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Thanks to Infofront for doing such a good job at a thankless task. Cheers bro.
full member
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Perhaps before the split. Shots have been fired and the time for peaceful attempts is over.

Yeh, but they will say bitcoiners are nazis and blah blah. Just saying, I am a newcomer after all
legendary
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Merit: 5429
I want to...

I don't believe anyone would object to that if code was offered up that was demonstrably superior in every way and addressed every technical doubt about that approach. If it was then enough people would agree, migrate and that would become Bitcoin.

Most people are not married to the Core path. What Core has that can't be touched at present is straightforward competence and that's what keeps their grip on Bitcoin's development.

That is, er, not quite the case with the present campaign.

Troll tactic #47 - Leading with the sympathy/empathy card
legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
Guys, we have a green vertical!

CAROLINA?

Edit: I really expected blood this weekend. I'm not complaining. I hope the BCH cancer is cleared away soon, and for good.
legendary
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these guys will never understand that the core devs are willing to increase the blocksize when the time is right and it's tested properly

And even when the Bitcoin block size limit does get raised when the time is right, they'll just say it's not enough and BCash has it where it needs to be. Or come up with other arguments and excuses why Bitcoin still sucks.   Roll Eyes
legendary
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That BCH pump is rather a flabby one

I still have a few to get rid of, I'm sort of disapointed.

Too many people got burned when Bithumb went down at an inopportune time, last weekend. Even though wash trades can help with volume, you need to attract actual suckers to buy it up.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
I want to...

I don't believe anyone would object to that if code was offered up that was demonstrably superior in every way and addressed every technical doubt about that approach. If it was then enough people would agree, migrate and that would become Bitcoin.

Most people are not married to the Core path. What Core has that can't be touched at present is straightforward competence and that's what keeps their grip on Bitcoin's development.

That is, er, not quite the case with the present campaign.
legendary
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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours
these guys will never understand that the core devs are willing to increase the blocksize when the time is right and it's tested properly
legendary
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It is not useful to allow dishonest people to operate in a rules based environment where the ultimate foundation of the entire project is honesty.

Bitcoin is whatever the consensus mechanism decides it is. That was the original idea and one of the foundational pillars of what makes bitcoin as an idea able to function at all, and the result is in. Continuing to complain about it, and even going to far as to split the blockchain in two, is nothing short of an attempt to undermine bitcoin as a whole. They are enemies, not only of the personal wealth of many of us here, but far more importantly they are enemies of a lifeboat for countless millions of people when the economy collapses. They are, in a word, evil, right down to their core.


Bitcoin is broken due to high fees and unreliable confirmation times.  


- I want to help bank the billions of unbanked across the world.

- I want a low-friction form of money that people in Venezuela or the next Zimbabwe can use to escape hyperinflation.

- I want a border-less form of money that the people or Argentina can use to bypass capital controls.

- I want a transportable form of money that I can pay to a programmer in India for work on the Bitcoin Unlimited website, thereby helping bring disenfranchised groups across the world out of poverty.  

- I want bitcoin to be so massively adopted that it becomes politically impossible to shut down, ending governments ability to raise money for war and other atrocities with the stealth-tax of inflation.


You cannot achieve those goals with a crippled bitcoin limited to 3 transactions per second (and no, LN is no panacea either, but that's another discussion).  

And then you call me evil for working to bring bitcoin back to its original vision as better money that would improve the lives of people all across the world.

Give you head a shake, Ibian.

legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
There are many Bitcoin people here (because hey, this IS a Bitcoin WO thread) that have disagreements and legitimate concerns about the future of Bitcoin: Joe public adoption worries, SegWit adoption worries, scaling worries, worries about how LN will work, worries about the power/centralization of the miners, etc. I would think on some level that all of us share these concerns to some degree.

But the thing that separates these people from the true Bitcoin trolls and alt shills is the fact that they are still pro-Bitcoin. They WANT Bitcoin to succeed and thrive long term. They have no hidden anti-Bitcoin agenda, or trying to covertly shill for an altcoin (BCH). They don't spend every moment with every post spewing anti-Bitcoin propaganda, or slyly trying to strike up a supposedly "agnostic" debate or concern, only to have their real hidden agenda slowly revealed through the way that they are debating (i.e. breadcrumbing, straw-manning, playing dumb, rebuttal of every single point, supposedly have the 'real inside knowledge', leading with the empathy card, etc.).

No common ground is ever found with a troll/shill, because they're not looking to find common ground. They are not looking to have some honest debate. They are trying to disrupt and create an emotional reaction, that is all. And in this forum's case, they are looking to disrupt and dissuade belief in Bitcoin's long term dominance and viability. In fact, they are part of a campaign to do so, and it is reasonable to assume that some of them are getting paid for their effort.

The thing that the trolls apparently don't get is we are all too familiar with all their stupid tactics. The art of internet trolling is well documented and has been around for some time. So they are pretty easy to spot.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5wslia/internet_troll_tactics/

Some of you guys can engage with the trolls all you want, the rest of us will just put them on /ignore. But please stop trying to 'defend' them and their actions. And if you are so blind that you can't see that they only show up when Bitcoin is falling and BCash is getting pumped, then you need to seek help.

Well said.

Personally I don't mind jbreher's posts because they are easily refuted using facts. So I don't think he is to be feared. But I understand your points, after all it's a Bitcoin thread (arguably the best there is), and it should stay a Bitcoin thread. Altcoin supporters and Bitcoin haters can go post in the appropriate sections or start their own threads.
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