Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 15845.

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Quote from: Ibian on November 17, 2017, 10:09:03 PM

There is no middle ground in a war of this sort. It's bitcoin, or nothing of consequence. You have chosen your side. In other words, fuck off.

OK for me, but not for thee, eh? Again, thank you for outing yourself as a petty tyrant. Hopefully, those that matter will at least give lip service to the concept of 'equal protection under the law'. I can only imagine that @infofront is trying to grease some irritating squeaky wheel that keeps whining at him to DO SOMETHING!!!!111!1! Perhaps with some introspection, infofront will do the right thing.

Oh yeah - fuck off yourself.

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Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2017, 10:13:47 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 17, 2017, 09:47:46 PM

I don't know about you, but psychologically this has been a very mixed bag for me. No one really wants anyone else to succeed, it seems. I think my lips are sealed going forward.

Back in 2011 - 2013, I really proselytized far and wide. I wanted everyone I knew to be able to take advantage of this new technology that was obviously going to change the way money works for all humanity. Free us all from the vampire squid.

But I took ridicule and abuse for my attempts. So my voice muted. Finally, I just stopped talking about it altogether.

As (Torque?) said a few posts back, you can lead a horse to water...

Make of this what you will...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8974494
I'm not proud.

jbreher

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 17, 2017, 09:47:46 PM

I don't know about you, but psychologically this has been a very mixed bag for me. No one really wants anyone else to succeed, it seems. I think my lips are sealed going forward.

Back in 2011 - 2013, I really proselytized far and wide. I wanted everyone I knew to be able to take advantage of this new technology that was obviously going to change the way money works for all humanity. Free us all from the vampire squid.

But I took ridicule and abuse for my attempts. So my voice muted. Finally, I just stopped talking about it altogether.

As Torque said a few posts back, you can lead a horse to water...

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Quote from: bones261 on November 17, 2017, 08:52:14 PM

That seems to be the latest FUD from the bears, that Bitfinex is creating funny money with USDT.

Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2017, 10:05:25 PM

Latest? That allegation has been floating around for months. And rather than FUD, there seems to be quite a bit of evidence behind it. What with the promises of audits that never come, Bitfinex's hack loss leaving them insolvent and perhaps plucking 'money' out of thin air to capitalize itself, the terms of USDT, which essentially say 'if you own tether, you don't own doodly-squat'...

Um nice to remove my qualifying statement in order to improve your argument. Cheesy

Quote from: bones261 on November 17, 2017, 08:52:14 PM

I wouldn't put anything past Bitfinex. I haven't used them since the hack back in August 2016.

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Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2017, 10:01:05 PM

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Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2017, 07:33:53 PM

Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.

Honestly? It's probably because you are a cash clown.

So you advocate banning because of interest, regardless of the actual posted content. Thank you for outing yourself as a petty tyrant.

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I mean when my posts about biology and what that means for the jewish problem don't get deleted and yours do, what other conclusion could be reached? And I'm fine with that.

Yet the posts that are being deleted are not Bitcoin Cash oriented. Some of the deleted posts are focused exclusively upon Bitcoin Segwit.

Oh - one was a response to the Tesla Roadster. My Bad. Then again, the post that that one replied to is still up. Selective enforcement at its ~~finest~~ worst.

There is no middle ground in a war of this sort. It's bitcoin, or nothing of consequence. You have chosen your side. In other words, fuck off.

Ibian

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Massive sales are normal. Massive mempool is not normal. The network is weak, needs upgrade.

May I ask, what is your native language ?

I would like to find a proper translation for "Fuck Off", that you may - more fully - appreciate.

Newbie has a point. Ten bucks a pop is too much.

jbreher

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Quote from: bones261 on November 17, 2017, 08:52:14 PM

That seems to be the latest FUD from the bears, that Bitfinex is creating funny money with USDT.

Latest? That allegation has been floating around for months. And rather than FUD, there seems to be quite a bit of evidence behind it. What with the promises of audits that never come, Bitfinex's hack loss leaving them insolvent and perhaps plucking 'money' out of thin air to capitalize itself, the terms of USDT, which essentially say 'if you own tether, you don't own doodly-squat'...

jbreher

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Quote from: Ibian on November 17, 2017, 07:51:00 PM

Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2017, 07:33:53 PM

Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.

Honestly? It's probably because you are a cash clown.

So you advocate banning because of interest, regardless of the actual posted content. Thank you for outing yourself as a petty tyrant.

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I mean when my posts about biology and what that means for the jewish problem don't get deleted and yours do, what other conclusion could be reached? And I'm fine with that.

Yet the posts that are being deleted are not Bitcoin Cash oriented. Some of the deleted posts are focused exclusively upon Bitcoin Segwit.

Oh - one was a response to the Tesla Roadster. My Bad. Then again, the post that that one replied to is still up. Selective enforcement at its ~~finest~~ worst.

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Yep, and those of us who were hodlers of both sides were labelled fools and shills. You've got to be a special kind of cocky to think only one side of a contentious fork is valuable and that you can pick which side that is immediately after the fork. Clearly there are people who value each path. That's why it is contentious.

A contentious fork is something different. BCH was not launched as a result of a contentious fork, more like an altcoin with a shared tx history but with different parameters.

A major catalyst for BCH was segwit being forced down miners throats when less than the original threshold was in favor of it.

IIRC the code was rather clear that in case of less than X% miner adoption segwit wouldn't happen, with X being something like 90-95%... how is that "forcing" miners? Segwit only happened because the miners signaled in favor of it - even though some had a twist (2x) to it.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0148.mediawiki

Support was at around 40 percent. Then BIP-148 came along and threatened to disconnect any nodes that relayed blocks that were not signaling for segwit. At that point, you either signal or stop mining, so miners signaled. They were also encouraged by strong support (90%+) for the segwit2x agreement, which turned out to be a joke.

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BCH forked off to avoid segwit and increase blocksize. How is that not a contentious fork?

One morning Wu decided that if btc goes with segwit he will launch his altcoin. This is unilateral action. It's like me deciding that I want to launch bitcoin for whatever reason. It's not an organic split like what happened, say, in ETH, where the devs proposed a change and some people stuck with the old chain where "code is law". There's a difference. Even Wu won't claim BCH is Bitcoin. He says it's something different. At least he's honest about it.

There is a very large community of bitcoiners besides Wu involved with BCH. If you never venture out of bitcointalk.org or /r/bitcoin, I can't blame you for being blind to it. Censorship tends to create echo chambers, to the detriment of the people in those chambers. I never made the claim that BCH is Bitcoin. Clearly that moniker is more closely associated with the Segwit chain. But that may change with time. My claim is that BCH is more closely aligned with Satoshi's whitepaper. At 1MB and with 2 week difficulty adjustment, the segwit chain is much more fragile than BCH. BCH's mempool has not ever seen backlog and now that the difficulty adjustment algorithm has been upgraded, blocks times are much more reliable than the segwit chain.

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Quote from: Pistacia on November 17, 2017, 07:46:28 PM

Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2017, 07:33:53 PM

Several more posts deleted.

Glad to see this crap deleted from this valuable thread... was about time cause IMO it's brazen to pollute this thread the way you did

Must keep the discussions free from deceiving propaganda.

If you believe anything I typed in those deleted posts was untrue, I invite you to the companion thread where I have reposted the deleted posts. Some with commentary on why I think they are legitimate by post #1 in this thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stuff-deleted-by-starter-of-the-wall-observer-thread-2402558

But I'm guessing you ain't got the balls for it. Or whatever the equivalent would be, should you be female.

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Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2017, 07:33:53 PM

Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.

Were you this excited about ETH? did you ride that flippening too?

No. And no. Quite frankly, Ethereum seems to me to be a token without a purpose. I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would pay more then seven cents for a coin whose inflation emission is in the sole purview of some immature idiot savant. Especially seeing as he destroyed its entire reason for being by violating the inviolable smart contracts. But let's not talk about Ethereum here - let's talk about Bitcoin.

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Also, what's your professional involvement in monero?

I hold some. Well, by today's price, the man on the street would likely say I hold a lot. But it is a mere afterthought upon my Bitcoin holdings. But let's not talk about monero here - let's talk about Bitcoin.

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you submitted code?

Not to any cryptocurrency projects.

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how many alt pies you got your hands in exactly?

'Hands in'? Probably zero. I have minor holdings of a few others. Byteball. I've not yet claimed Clams, Bitcoin Gold (haha - I had to correct my forefinger, who wanted to type Bitcoin Fold), BitCore, or several others that looked like the claim process might reveal something. Namecoin. And a couple of shitcoins that I thought had an interesting enough angle that they might pump someday (still waiting and losing hope on those). I think that's (at least close to) it.

Why?

But let's not talk about altcoins here - let's talk about Bitcoin. Are we not concerned with Bitcoin in this thread? I am.

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Quote from: jbreher on November 17, 2017, 09:40:09 PM

Quote from: Torque on November 17, 2017, 07:26:31 PM

Eh, after seeing the backlash online years ago from people telling their friends, family, colleagues, etc. about Bitcoin and getting nothing but shit and ridicule, my attitude remains to keep it to myself and not discuss with anyone. You can lead a horse to water and all that.

Shit and ridicule. Indeed. Though I've informed my current supervisor of my departing date. When it gets to the point of replying to the coworkers' questions about early retirement, the 'I-told-ya-so' moments are gonna be epic.

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I don't know about you, but psychologically this has been a very mixed bag for me. No one really wants anyone else to succeed, it seems. I think my lips are sealed going forward.

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Quote from: Torque on November 17, 2017, 07:26:31 PM

Eh, after seeing the backlash online years ago from people telling their friends, family, colleagues, etc. about Bitcoin and getting nothing but shit and ridicule, my attitude remains to keep it to myself and not discuss with anyone. You can lead a horse to water and all that.

Shit and ridicule. Indeed. Though I've informed my current supervisor of my departing date. When it gets to the point of replying to the coworkers' questions about early retirement, the 'I-told-ya-so' moments are gonna be epic.

such eyepop
very envy
many stagger
bigly wow

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You're never too old to think young.

Quote from: orpington on November 17, 2017, 09:34:31 PM

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Attack? Bitcoin needs to be fixed, that's obvious. $ 7523.00 (-5.05%) plus $ 1325.14 (38.43%), not so bad.

You need to be fixed

You mean neutered? I don't think there's anything there to remove.

Cheesy

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Attack? Bitcoin needs to be fixed, that's obvious. $ 7523.00 (-5.05%) plus $ 1325.14 (38.43%), not so bad.

You need to be fixed

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Guys, who are this people: "Ver and Wu" ?
Sorry, didn´t pay attention. I´m such a noob !
I´m just here for the money, pfmpf.
No joke !

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Quote from: bones261 on November 17, 2017, 09:29:28 PM

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how many of you are secretly trading bch i wonder Tongue

should i be secretly trading bch? are these guys just giving away money? i wonder

If you think that in the end it's going to help you get more BTC by buying low and selling high, why not? Just be prepared that it may not work out in your favor. However, if you think Wu, Ver and friends are conspiring to do another weekend attack, go for it. Don't get left holding the bag..

We all saw this coming. Those of us that chose to do nothing about it are the real heros here.

Quote from: sa_94 on November 17, 2017, 09:18:09 PM

If you're just in it for the money then fair enough try to make a profit trading BCH otherwise you're just contributing to the attack on Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is money. And I'm just a squirrel here trying to get a nut. Besides, I happen to believe that Bitcoin is indeed antifragile. These "attacks." Whatever. I'm more than pleased to help Wu, Ver and friends relieve themselves of their bitcoin.
Bitcoin be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_A1KFet-bY

If I was a better trader maybe. But Jay's right about me. I have no business trying to do that.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 17, 2017, 09:10:47 PM

Quote from: bones261 on November 17, 2017, 09:01:12 PM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 08:57:49 PM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 08:03:20 PM

how many of you are secretly trading bch i wonder Tongue

should i be secretly trading bch? are these guys just giving away money? i wonder

If you think that in the end it's going to help you get more BTC by buying low and selling high, why not? Just be prepared that it may not work out in your favor. However, if you think Wu, Ver and friends are conspiring to do another weekend attack, go for it. Don't get left holding the bag..

We all saw this coming. Those of us that chose to do nothing about it are the real heros here.

Quote from: sa_94 on November 17, 2017, 09:18:09 PM

If you're just in it for the money then fair enough try to make a profit trading BCH otherwise you're just contributing to the attack on Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is money. And I'm just a squirrel here trying to get a nut. Besides, I happen to believe that Bitcoin is indeed antifragile. These "attacks." Whatever. I'm more than pleased to help Wu, Ver and friends relieve themselves of their bitcoin.
Bitcoin be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_A1KFet-bY

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If you're just in it for the money then fair enough try to make a profit trading BCH otherwise you're just contributing to the attack on Bitcoin.

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Quote from: bones261 on November 17, 2017, 09:01:12 PM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 08:57:49 PM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 08:03:20 PM

how many of you are secretly trading bch i wonder Tongue

should i be secretly trading bch? are these guys just giving away money? i wonder

If you think that in the end it's going to help you get more BTC by buying low and selling high, why not? Just be prepared that it may not work out in your favor. However, if you think Wu, Ver and friends are conspiring to do another weekend attack, go for it. Don't get left holding the bag..

We all saw this coming. Those of us that chose to do nothing about it are the real heros here.

Quote from: sa_94 on November 17, 2017, 09:18:09 PM

If you're just in it for the money then fair enough try to make a profit trading BCH otherwise you're just contributing to the attack on Bitcoin.

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