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legendary
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how many of you are secretly trading bch i wonder Tongue

should i be secretly trading bch? are these guys just giving away money? i wonder

If you think that in the end it's going to help you get more BTC by buying low and selling high, why not? Just be prepared that it may not work out in your favor. However, if you think Wu, Ver and friends are conspiring to do another weekend attack, go for it. Don't get left holding the bag..
sr. member
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how many of you are secretly trading bch i wonder Tongue

should i be secretly trading bch? are these guys just giving away money? i wonder
legendary
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BTX is not a forkcoin. Its blockchain is 400 Mb.

BTX only used btc blockchain to credit coins for airdrops.


btw, do Jihan and Ver only pump bch on fridays? something like a weekend hobby??
Dump btc, pump bch, rinse, repeat

It's strategy. Wire transfers are not processed on the weekends. So bulls cannot replenish their ammo, if needed. There is the USDT that some suggest isn't on the up and up though. That seems to be the latest FUD from the bears, that Bitfinex is creating funny money with USDT. I wouldn't put anything past Bitfinex. I haven't used them since the hack back in August 2016,
sr. member
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just wait for the next ddos on bithumb. the koreans aren't stupid
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Still a manic miner
BTX is not a forkcoin. Its blockchain is 400 Mb.

BTX only used btc blockchain to credit coins for airdrops.


btw, do Jihan and Ver only pump bch on fridays? something like a weekend hobby??
Dump btc, pump bch, rinse, repeat
sr. member
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Can someone tell Ver and Wu to pump another fork so I can cash them out too? Maybe a nice BTG or BTX pump? Thanks!


That would be nice. They can program it too. Every weekend they can dump BTC and pump some forkcoin. Then they release a new forkcoin each three months, easy retrievable with a cold wallet.

You receive freely, dump it on the high, and use it to buy more BTC which would be low. Then BTC rise on the monday and everybody will be happy. Rinse and repeat.



We do have Bitcoin Gold pumps to look forward to when this shitshow eventually dies.

Completely ! Where do you think, we should sell ?
Nah, i´m not selling any, the sky is our limit !
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Can someone tell Ver and Wu to pump another fork so I can cash them out too? Maybe a nice BTG or BTX pump? Thanks!


That would be nice. They can program it too. Every weekend they can dump BTC and pump some forkcoin. Then they release a new forkcoin each three months, easy retrievable with a cold wallet.

You receive freely, dump it on the high, and use it to buy more BTC which would be low. Then BTC rise on the monday and everybody will be happy. Rinse and repeat.



We do have Bitcoin Gold pumps to look forward to when this shitshow eventually dies.
sr. member
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Can someone tell Ver and Wu to pump another fork so I can cash them out too? Maybe a nice BTG or BTX pump? Thanks!


That would be nice. They can program it too. Every weekend they can dump BTC and pump some forkcoin. Then they release a new forkcoin each three months, easy retrievable with a cold wallet.

You receive freely, dump it on the high, and use it to buy more BTC which would be low. Then BTC rise on the monday and everybody will be happy. Rinse and repeat.

sr. member
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how many of you are secretly trading bch i wonder Tongue
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Bitthumb BCH volume at $1.46 billion and climbing, five times higher than next closest exchange BFX on $340 million.  Looks like round 2 whale game is on.  Shame about SW2X falling over this morning, would have made it more interesting.
legendary
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Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.
Honestly? It's probably because you are a cash clown. I mean when my posts about biology and what that means for the jewish problem don't get deleted and yours do, what other conclusion could be reached? And I'm fine with that.
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
The important part is that channel can stay open indefinitely, there's a big penalty to messing with the channel's funds, and also, that funds can be tranferred to other channels (and even other blockchains) without an onchain transaction.
Let's keep things accurate here. What itod said was:
Not only that channels can send funds to each other for the purpose of closing, search for news today where LN channels successfully worked between two different blockchains, BTC and LTC.

...while we were discussing that opening or closing channels consume on-chain transaction capacity. Given the context, it seemed to me that itod was asserting that a channel could be closed by sending funds to another channel, with the implication that the on-chain transaction to close the channel would be eliminated. Did I misinterpret itod's statement? I not, that is what I saw as new information I had not yet heard. If itod was not making such a claim, my proper response is 'so what'. We've all known for ages that Lightning allows transfer of funds through a chain of channels*.

*provided that you know a priori a path from A to B. Unfortunately, last I looked, nobody knows how to do anonymous decentralized route discovery for this purpose.

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440000 channels can be opened or closed per day

Unlikely number to be realized, but let's go with that for rhetorical purposes. Once those 440,000 channels get opened or closed (not both), there is exactly zero capacity for any other transactions on the network.
legendary
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 There's a difference. Even Wu won't claim BCH is Bitcoin. He says it's something different. At least he's honest about it.


I wonder.  Can you even coherently and without contradiction use the terms "honest" and Wu in the same sentence?


I will concede that you are likely only referring to Wu's rhetoric in regards to BCH NOT being bitcoin, but still, he seems to be such a sneaky destructive slime ball in so many other regards, that it causes me to believe that you may have by giving him too much credit in suggesting that he is "honest" some regard, because I tend to think of honesty as a more deeper character description rather than just some words that are used in a narrow context that happen to be truthful (this time).

Like Trump blasting Sen. Franken-groper, but not Moore, his buddies nor himself, the Groper-In-Chief.

Now...back to our regularly scheduled Moon shot....

Sen. Franken-groper didn't blast himself either all that time and that photo of him kidding on he is about to grope a sleeping soldier to me is creepy and just totally wacko for a man in his position. If the media made a fuss over the Trump audio tape they should surely roast Franken more than they are doing and demand an apology too.

Agreed. All these creepos need to be outed. Sexual harassment has no place in politics or anywhere else.

But let's clarify one thing.... that woman was neither a soldier, nor very demure.
https://www.google.com/search?q=leeann+tweeden&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-pMil8sbXAhXIQiYKHbOxBugQ_AUICigB&biw=1093&bih=503
jr. member
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Glad to see this crap deleted from this valuable thread... was about time cause IMO it's brazen to pollute this thread the way you did

Must keep the discussions free from deceiving propaganda.
sr. member
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Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.

Were you this excited about ETH? did you ride that flippening too?
Also, what's your professional involvement in monero? you submitted code? how many alt pies you got your hands in exactly?
legendary
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Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.
legendary
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No. Dabs was the one that first postulated daily opening and closing channels. I merely am guiding Dabs to the natural conclusion of that postulate.

If Dabs made proposition for one use-case, and you make generalization based on single case, doesn't that sound wrong to you?

I was not generalizing to all use cases. I was specifically and pointedly correcting the errors in his specific example. If anyone generalized the discussion, it was you.

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Not only that channels can send funds to each other for the purpose of closing,
Admittedly, I've not heard that before. So you are saying the transactions will never be settled on-chain? You realize then that such transactions are by definition 'not Bitcoin', right?

And yes, LN channels are 'not Bitcoin',

right...

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... until they close sometime in the future.

...right...

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All countless transactions that can securely happen on the channel do not pollute the blockchain like your big blocks pollute BCH blockchain.

So transactions are pollution? Interesting viewpoint.

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So again go educate yourself to find another topic to spread FUD, preferable for you less obviously false.

You have not disagreed with anything I actually asserted. Any disagreement you claim to have with me here is only against some strawman you have misconstructed. I am not spewing FUD, I am correcting inaccuracies.

With the current Bitcoin Segwit, if each user is to open and close a single channel daily (Dabs' hypothetical), the network cannot accommodate more than a quarter-million users. Period. 'Cause math.
hero member
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Maybe they want to push the weekend dump further down by pumping bch.
sr. member
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What is this then, attack of the clone coin again?
legendary
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 There's a difference. Even Wu won't claim BCH is Bitcoin. He says it's something different. At least he's honest about it.


I wonder.  Can you even coherently and without contradiction use the terms "honest" and Wu in the same sentence?


I will concede that you are likely only referring to Wu's rhetoric in regards to BCH NOT being bitcoin, but still, he seems to be such a sneaky destructive slime ball in so many other regards, that it causes me to believe that you may have by giving him too much credit in suggesting that he is "honest" some regard, because I tend to think of honesty as a more deeper character description rather than just some words that are used in a narrow context that happen to be truthful (this time).

Like Trump blasting Sen. Franken-groper, but not Moore, his buddies nor himself, the Groper-In-Chief.

Now...back to our regularly scheduled Moon shot....

Sen. Franken-groper didn't blast himself either all that time and that photo of him kidding on he is about to grope a sleeping soldier to me is creepy and just totally wacko for a man in his position. If the media made a fuss over the Trump audio tape they should surely roast Franken more than they are doing and demand an apology too.

Oh, he's getting hammered!  Besides, he wasn't a Senator then-- just a stand-up comedian...just not very stand-up.   Angry
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