There is usually price movement on a Sunday in about 3-4 hours.
Which way do you think we will go?
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16178. (Read 26686371 times)
October 15, 2017, 01:36:46 PM
October 15, 2017, 01:10:50 PM
For all those who haven't so far, it may be a good idea to use this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.5720
Post a bitcoin address (preferably one you haven't ever used - or are going to use)
Sign a message with it, and post the message.
Someone will confirm the message matches the address, by re-quoting it
If your account is hacked, messages deleted, BTC address in profile changed etc.
You should still be able to recover your account if you can resign a message from a mod.
Did that about a week before my account got hacked but the admins never even responded to any of my requests to re-instate.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.5720
Post a bitcoin address (preferably one you haven't ever used - or are going to use)
Sign a message with it, and post the message.
Someone will confirm the message matches the address, by re-quoting it
If your account is hacked, messages deleted, BTC address in profile changed etc.
You should still be able to recover your account if you can resign a message from a mod.
Oh and thanks to meuh and last of the v8s for answering my previous question.
October 15, 2017, 01:06:32 PM
For all those who haven't so far, it may be a good idea to use this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.5720
Post a bitcoin address (preferably one you haven't ever used - or are going to use)
Sign a message with it, and post the message.
Someone will confirm the message matches the address, by re-quoting it
If your account is hacked, messages deleted, BTC address in profile changed etc.
You should still be able to recover your account if you can resign a message from a mod.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.5720
Post a bitcoin address (preferably one you haven't ever used - or are going to use)
Sign a message with it, and post the message.
Someone will confirm the message matches the address, by re-quoting it
If your account is hacked, messages deleted, BTC address in profile changed etc.
You should still be able to recover your account if you can resign a message from a mod.
Too bad there isn't an established protocol to use a Segwit address to sign messages, yet. I do have an address posted there, but it is an address that I have used in the past.
October 15, 2017, 12:50:53 PM
For all those who haven't so far, it may be a good idea to use this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.5720
Post a bitcoin address (preferably one you haven't ever used - or are going to use)
Sign a message with it, and post the message.
Someone will confirm the message matches the address, by re-quoting it
If your account is hacked, messages deleted, BTC address in profile changed etc.
You should still be able to recover your account if you can resign a message from a mod.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.5720
Post a bitcoin address (preferably one you haven't ever used - or are going to use)
Sign a message with it, and post the message.
Someone will confirm the message matches the address, by re-quoting it
If your account is hacked, messages deleted, BTC address in profile changed etc.
You should still be able to recover your account if you can resign a message from a mod.
October 15, 2017, 12:47:45 PM
In case anyone wondered from my previous reply to Searing, that post was not an endorsement of Bitcoin. Why bitcoin is garbage and only physical, commodity currency (aka things like silver and gold) are permissionless and money:
Try to cross any border with a significant amount of PM and find yourself explaining to the tax slave plantation guards that it's supposed to be permissionless money.
Or just try to conduct any transaction with them. I keep accumulating some PM, but it's just for a sound sleep.
October 15, 2017, 12:35:40 PM
In case anyone wondered from my previous reply to Searing, that post was not an endorsement of Bitcoin. Why bitcoin is garbage and only physical, commodity currency (aka things like silver and gold) are permissionless and money:
Try to cross any border with a significant amount of PM and find yourself explaining to the tax slave plantation guards that it's supposed to be permissionless money.
Or just try to conduct any transaction with them. I keep accumulating some PM, but it's just for a sound sleep.
October 15, 2017, 12:30:40 PM
usefull countdown for this : http://bashco.github.io/2x_Countdown/
October 15, 2017, 12:26:25 PM
Can someone tell me when the exact day is of the S2X fork?
Looking to liquidate a coin or two but prefer to do it AFTER the fork.
Looking to liquidate a coin or two but prefer to do it AFTER the fork.
theoretically on block 494784 , so approx 18 Nov
but don't trust those sods
https://segwit2x.github.io/segwit2x-announce.html
October 15, 2017, 12:21:45 PM
Can someone tell me when the exact day is of the S2X fork?
Looking to liquidate a coin or two but prefer to do it AFTER the fork.
Looking to liquidate a coin or two but prefer to do it AFTER the fork.
October 15, 2017, 12:15:36 PM
Your picture seems to have overlooked the fact that "cybermoney" uses the state's infrastructure (internet and other facilities) with non-obfuscated traffic, centralized transaction validators (miners) that the state can easily take over or attack, and centralized exchanges. There is also the fact that blockchains don't scale to be anything more than a settlement network which is not used for daily commerce by citizens (a centralized one at that, no different than things like SWIFT that already exist).
There is also the fact that it requires orders of magnitude fewer resources to wage a police state on the digital world than the physical one, so no matter what angle you look at this from, if anyone was trying to defeat the state, they would not be doing anything digital or craptocurrency related. Using anything digital is falling right into their hands - a domain they can actually afford to run a police state in. The real future of freedom and wealth is located in the physical world with physical commodity based money (silver and gold) - a domain where you can just ignore anything the state says because they can't afford to run a police state over every km^2 of earth.
Wouldn't that include posting on this forum? After all, everything posted here is archived, and can eventually be tracked to the source with some effort. Best hole up in a retreat in Montana and fall completely off the grid. (or perhaps make your own floating country in the middle of the Ocean.)
October 15, 2017, 12:12:19 PM
Nope. My CPA in the USA said it was likely to be a taxable event if I sold any. She said leave it alone for 1 year and 1 day for
20% capital gains tax, here in the states, (rather than 40% if less time) and she 'assumes' the IRS will just see it as a stock split.
20% capital gains tax, here in the states, (rather than 40% if less time) and she 'assumes' the IRS will just see it as a stock split.
Correct. This is also why I ran my business as a LIFO based accounting system: When I need money for parts or power or taxes I sell bitcoins at a rate that is close to what I received, thus minimal short term CG taxes. Since I receive payments in bitcoin I make sure to pay income taxes on the money received at the value of bitcoin at the time the work was agreed to (because the price might change by the time the work is completed and I receive payment, but I consider that to be float, not increased revenue. Need to check with a CPA or the IRS on that, but I do the best I can do).
Thus the stuff I made over the years is free and clear of anything but capital gains taxes, which would be paid if I sold deep enough into my account.
And since I have never purchased a bitpenny, if bitcoin went tits up I would really not lose anything in the real world other than the value of my labor.
A really interesting side-effect happens when I buy other services for bitcoin, tax analysis on that is a bitch on wheels. Have to convert to cash virtually on the ledger, then convert back to goods and services. Sucks.
October 15, 2017, 12:09:01 PM
https://medium.com/@philipn/want-to-see-something-crazy-open-this-link-on-your-phone-with-wifi-turned-off-9e0adb00d024
oh that's cool. anyone, not just the cops, can find you if they know your number. such freedom of info
oh that's cool. anyone, not just the cops, can find you if they know your number. such freedom of info
October 15, 2017, 12:02:19 PM
... you can just ignore anything the state says because they can't afford to run a police state over every km^2 of earth.
agreed 
October 15, 2017, 11:46:14 AM
Your picture seems to have overlooked the fact that "cybermoney" uses the state's infrastructure (internet and other facilities) with non-obfuscated traffic, centralized transaction validators (miners) that the state can easily take over or attack, and centralized exchanges. There is also the fact that blockchains don't scale to be anything more than a settlement network which is not used for daily commerce by citizens (a centralized one at that, no different than things like SWIFT that already exist).
There is also the fact that it requires orders of magnitude fewer resources to wage a police state on the digital world than the physical one, so no matter what angle you look at this from, if anyone was trying to defeat the state, they would not be doing anything digital or craptocurrency related. Using anything digital is falling right into their hands - a domain they can actually afford to run a police state in. The real future of freedom and wealth is located in the physical world with physical commodity based money (silver and gold) - a domain where you can just ignore anything the state says because they can't afford to run a police state over every km^2 of earth.
October 15, 2017, 11:45:19 AM
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Ok, now I get it!
I had a legacy Bittrex account: I could use it for crypto-crypto trades only and my withdrawal limit was huge (more than 500BTC per day). After reading this post I had a feeling they finally implemented the KYC for all and they did it.
My legacy account is considered as new and if I don't fill the Basic verification form I can't do anything else.
Such a bad Sunday news
Bummer
You made me laugh man. What do you think? I had no funds on bittrex I've always used it responsibly. When I needed to trade I used it otherwise no funds over there! I will probably not verify. I do not trust them having my personal data.I guess I will have to start a new account somewhere else: it's becoming harder and harder to be Batman in crypto.
October 15, 2017, 11:30:21 AM
October 15, 2017, 11:24:52 AM
..snip Typical R0ach post about PMs and how BTC is the shitiest form of money every conceived.
Let me guess.. What really happened is that you shorted BTC near the all time high and are looking to increase you profit margins by just a little bit more in this dip; hoping someone here decides to take their BTC and buy some PMs. (Win Win situation for you, if that is true.)
October 15, 2017, 11:24:16 AM
Oh, and this hoard in question is all profit. Mined and paid off equip to ROI. This is the cream off the top!
Even better if you consider the RogerBucks dividend ! Did you cash out as well ?
Nope. My CPA in the USA said it was likely to be a taxable event if I sold any. She said leave it alone for 1 year and 1 day for
20% capital gains tax, here in the states, (rather than 40% if less time) and she 'assumes' the IRS will just see it as a stock split.
I also 'assume' Jihan Wu of bitmain , (in that he is only taking BCH for all equip now), is gonna screw the segwit2_2mb vow he took,
and there will be a 3 way split core/segwit2+2mb/bitcoin cash
won't that be fun
Thus let if ride, there can only be one! (fork that is) (er suposedly) October 15, 2017, 11:09:02 AM
In case anyone wondered from my previous reply to Searing, that post was not an endorsement of Bitcoin. Why bitcoin is garbage and only physical, commodity currency (aka things like silver and gold) are permissionless and money:
I would say anyone who supports bitcoin or anything blockchain related falls into that category. For instance, bitcon transactions are not blinded and the system has built-in middlemen (transaction validators/miners). If I have a gold or silver coin on my table, I'm not required to ask anyone permission or pay anyone extortion fees in order to be able to spend or trade with it. Bitcon is the exact opposite. In order to be able to do anything with a bitcon (since transactions aren't blinded), I'm not only required to ask permission to a centralized transaction validator, but also required to pay extortion fees to them (which they can artificially raise to the moon) to do anything with it.
For the religious nuts who keep posting in this thread (Coincube), Jesus is essentially defining forced taxation by the state as extortion and theft - paying tribute to a false god (Caesar). So if bitcon is not only a permissioned system (from transactions not being blinded and transaction validators being designed to centralize), but also has a taxation and extortion system built-in, then you should probably not be using it.
Agreed we strive to understand how to live in harmony and not just destroy each other, but putting ideologues in charge with their aliasing error as follows meaning we get Frankenstein horrific outcomes
I would say anyone who supports bitcoin or anything blockchain related falls into that category. For instance, bitcon transactions are not blinded and the system has built-in middlemen (transaction validators/miners). If I have a gold or silver coin on my table, I'm not required to ask anyone permission or pay anyone extortion fees in order to be able to spend or trade with it. Bitcon is the exact opposite. In order to be able to do anything with a bitcon (since transactions aren't blinded), I'm not only required to ask permission to a centralized transaction validator, but also required to pay extortion fees to them (which they can artificially raise to the moon) to do anything with it.
For the religious nuts who keep posting in this thread (Coincube), Jesus is essentially defining forced taxation by the state as extortion and theft - paying tribute to a false god (Caesar). So if bitcon is not only a permissioned system (from transactions not being blinded and transaction validators being designed to centralize), but also has a taxation and extortion system built-in, then you should probably not be using it.
October 15, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
Be careful : Hacked database of passwords of all usernames is used to change your profile (and so, your password) without email notification (and so, your email linked to your profile).
Please change immediately your password with one that Bitcointalk don't have seen since ... 2014.
Please change email password if 1 of the password have been seen per Bitcointalk in your profile.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hacked-lost-access-saturday-night-2272567
Oh sh***. Thanks for the heads up, Meuh.Please change immediately your password with one that Bitcointalk don't have seen since ... 2014.
Please change email password if 1 of the password have been seen per Bitcointalk in your profile.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hacked-lost-access-saturday-night-2272567
It seems legendary accounts are the most heavily targeted. I just changed my password - but I don't get it: is it that some cracker gang got hold of an old passwd database, or are they simply able to get new versions whenever they feel like it?
DAMMIT! I started getting crypto spam daily on Sept 15th 2017 to the gmail account that I use here but I just noticed yesterday since I rarely check the Spam folder.
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