Go actually take an iq test, then come back.
I'm back. 80 is good. Right?
Tell me what you are going to do, BMB, in order that I can do the opposite.
Buy? Sell?
And, don't be working me with any reverse psychology. Come straight with me.
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September 20, 2017, 06:31:10 PM
I'm back. 80 is good. Right?
Tell me what you are going to do, BMB, in order that I can do the opposite.
Buy? Sell?
And, don't be working me with any reverse psychology. Come straight with me.
September 20, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
Go actually take an iq test, then come back.
I'm back. 80 is good. Right?
September 20, 2017, 06:14:26 PM
What do you mean "Recognition is subjective"? Do you mean that where a westerner see a square someone else sees a circle?
No, but where a westerner sees green, someone might see some kind of blue.Where a westerner sees "straight, left, right, straight", someone might see different paths depending on the physical orientation of the page when it gets presented to them. All reference axes are relative to an absolute point on their island (a mountain), so they don't have relative words like "left" or "right" ("up" and "down" they do).
Imagine a westerner dealing with IQ tests prepared by someone in one such population.
There is much more cultural background to perception than we are aware of.
Go actually take an iq test, then come back.
September 20, 2017, 06:11:56 PM
What do you mean "Recognition is subjective"? Do you mean that where a westerner see a square someone else sees a circle?
No, but where a westerner sees green, someone might see some kind of blue.Where a westerner sees "straight, left, right, straight", someone might see different paths depending on the physical orientation of the page when it gets presented to them. All reference axes are relative to an absolute point on their island (a mountain), so they don't have relative words like "left" or "right" ("up" and "down" they do).
Imagine a westerner dealing with IQ tests prepared by someone in one such population.
There is much more cultural background to perception than we are aware of.
September 20, 2017, 05:01:04 PM
But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.
I think, in a well articulated nutshell, you have just encapsulated Cryddits concerns.
I know this is a speculation thread and everything, but who amongst us, that aren't just here for the quick buck and who actually 'believe', hasn't had concerns over how something as pure as bitcoin could be commandeered by influences something less than benevolent ?
I am not that worried. The fact that Bitcoin is open source and can be cloned is not a liability but an asset. So if Bitcoin fails - in the end - there will be others. Lotsa lotsa others. A different take on the mantra unstoppable.
I tend to see the role of bitcoin in the future as a reference value, not so much a transaction currency or something that will completely displace fiat currency.
The simple essence is the following:
*we know the current financial system is untenable
*we know the enormous debts will never be paid
*we know the debt must increase to avoid collapse
*we know 'infinite debt' does not exist
Bitcoin just has to represent an alternative. That will be enough to succeed.
From a technical perspective, I am much more interested in smart contracts and decentralised 'computer networks' (like Ethereum and EOS). That is what businesses are looking at.
Bingo!!!
GOOD MAN!!!!
You won the post of the week!!!
So there are some very obvious truths that you mention.
There is also FUD from people who have an agenda which counts on FEAR.
I am HODLing!!!!!!
September 20, 2017, 04:51:16 PM
So basically, bitcoin is the gold(light) that will serve as the reference, backing, of the future transactional means, currency, contracts etc?
For now, that seems the most probable scenario to me.
September 20, 2017, 04:46:53 PM
But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.
I think, in a well articulated nutshell, you have just encapsulated Cryddits concerns.
I know this is a speculation thread and everything, but who amongst us, that aren't just here for the quick buck and who actually 'believe', hasn't had concerns over how something as pure as bitcoin could be commandeered by influences something less than benevolent ?
I am not that worried. The fact that Bitcoin is open source and can be cloned is not a liability but an asset. So if Bitcoin fails - in the end - there will be others. Lotsa lotsa others. A different take on the mantra unstoppable.
I tend to see the role of bitcoin in the future as a reference value, not so much a transaction currency or something that will completely displace fiat currency.
The simple essence is the following:
*we know the current financial system is untenable
*we know the enormous debts will never be paid
*we know the debt must increase to avoid collapse
*we know 'infinite debt' does not exist
Bitcoin just has to represent an alternative. That will be enough to succeed.
From a technical perspective, I am much more interested in smart contracts and decentralised 'computer networks' (like Ethereum and EOS). That is what businesses are looking at.
So basically, bitcoin is the gold(light) that will serve as the reference, backing, of the future transactional means, currency, contracts etc?
September 20, 2017, 04:08:50 PM
But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.
I think, in a well articulated nutshell, you have just encapsulated Cryddits concerns.
I know this is a speculation thread and everything, but who amongst us, that aren't just here for the quick buck and who actually 'believe', hasn't had concerns over how something as pure as bitcoin could be commandeered by influences something less than benevolent ?
I am not that worried. The fact that Bitcoin is open source and can be cloned is not a liability but an asset. So if Bitcoin fails - in the end - there will be others. Lotsa lotsa others. A different take on the mantra unstoppable.
I tend to see the role of bitcoin in the future as a reference value, not so much a transaction currency or something that will completely displace fiat currency.
The simple essence is the following:
*we know the current financial system is untenable
*we know the enormous debts will never be paid
*we know the debt must increase to avoid collapse
*we know 'infinite debt' does not exist
Bitcoin just has to represent an alternative. That will be enough to succeed.
From a technical perspective, I am much more interested in smart contracts and decentralised 'computer networks' (like Ethereum and EOS). That is what businesses are looking at.
September 20, 2017, 04:06:31 PM
If only the Average Joes of the world would realize the truth about the inflation they experienced in the past, as well as the heightened level of inflation they will begin to experience in the coming decade, they'd do well to put savings into bitcoin just for that very reason: just to hedge against inflation and protect their purchasing power. The price rising > 5% per year should just be a bonus.
It shouldn't be about "making a quick buck."
But alas, they are too caught up in buying things and making debt payments to be concerned about savings. Just like the govt and the banks want them to be. Forever in debt and on the hamster wheel.
It shouldn't be about "making a quick buck."
But alas, they are too caught up in buying things and making debt payments to be concerned about savings. Just like the govt and the banks want them to be. Forever in debt and on the hamster wheel.
Question is of course if they will allow us to hedge against their wrongdoings. Imagine what will happen when their bubbles, stawks, real estate, bonds and not to forget, debt, pop all together at the same time... .
September 20, 2017, 03:58:07 PM
If only the Average Joes of the world would realize the truth about the inflation they experienced in the past, as well as the heightened level of inflation they will begin to experience in the coming decade, they'd do well to put savings into bitcoin just for that very reason: just to hedge against inflation and protect their purchasing power. The price rising > 5% per year should just be a bonus.
It shouldn't be about "making a quick buck."
But alas, they are too caught up in buying things and making debt payments to be concerned about savings. Just like the govt and the banks want them to be. Forever in debt and on the hamster wheel.
It shouldn't be about "making a quick buck."
But alas, they are too caught up in buying things and making debt payments to be concerned about savings. Just like the govt and the banks want them to be. Forever in debt and on the hamster wheel.
Question is of course if they will allow us to hedge against their wrongdoings. Imagine what will happen when their bubbles, stawks, real estate, bonds and not to forget, debt, pop all together at the same time... .
September 20, 2017, 03:47:14 PM
https://twitter.com/jonmatonis/status/910564200254144514
oo. Cryddit. big blocks guy. satoshi's vision stuff. god i'm slow
oo. Cryddit. big blocks guy. satoshi's vision stuff. god i'm slow
September 20, 2017, 03:42:39 PM
If only the Average Joes of the world would realize the truth about the inflation they experienced in the past, as well as the heightened level of inflation they will begin to experience in the coming decade, they'd do well to put savings into bitcoin just for that very reason: just to hedge against inflation and protect their purchasing power. The price rising > 5% per year should just be a bonus.
It shouldn't be about "making a quick buck."
But alas, they are too caught up in buying things and making debt payments to be concerned about savings. Just like the govt and the banks want them to be. Forever in debt and on the hamster wheel.
It shouldn't be about "making a quick buck."
But alas, they are too caught up in buying things and making debt payments to be concerned about savings. Just like the govt and the banks want them to be. Forever in debt and on the hamster wheel.
September 20, 2017, 02:54:21 PM
But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.
I think, in a well articulated nutshell, you have just encapsulated Cryddits concerns.
I know this is a speculation thread and everything, but who amongst us, that aren't just here for the quick buck and who actually 'believe', hasn't had concerns over how something as pure as bitcoin could be commandeered by influences something less than benevolent ?
So long as you aren't trying to lead anyone up the garden path on the way, then yes, I can't see why that wouldn't count Ibian.
After all, your belief in the bitcoin fundamentals and your making a really huge quick buck are not mutually exclusive.
But pssst ... when you cash out don't cash out to dollars hey ? Maybe property or something.
September 20, 2017, 02:51:38 PM
But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.
I think, in a well articulated nutshell, you have just encapsulated Cryddits concerns.
I know this is a speculation thread and everything, but who amongst us, that aren't just here for the quick buck and who actually 'believe', hasn't had concerns over how something as pure as bitcoin could be commandeered by influences something less than benevolent ?
So long as you aren't trying to lead anyone up the garden path on the way, then yes, I can't see why that wouldn't count Ibian.
After all, your belief in the bitcoin fundamentals and your making a really huge quick buck are not mutually exclusive.
But pssst ... when you cash out don't cash out to dollars hey ? Maybe property or something.
September 20, 2017, 02:41:35 PM
But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.
I think, in a well articulated nutshell, you have just encapsulated Cryddits concerns.
I know this is a speculation thread and everything, but who amongst us, that aren't just here for the quick buck and who actually 'believe', hasn't had concerns over how something as pure as bitcoin could be commandeered by influences something less than benevolent ?
September 20, 2017, 02:40:48 PM
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-executives-banned-leaving-country-report/
I wonder when the disappearings begin. How sadly oppressive.
I wonder when the disappearings begin. How sadly oppressive.
September 20, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.
I think, in a well articulated nutshell, you have just encapsulated Cryddits concerns.
I know this is a speculation thread and everything, but who amongst us, that aren't just here for the quick buck and who actually 'believe', hasn't had concerns over how something as pure as bitcoin could be commandeered by influences something less than benevolent ?
September 20, 2017, 02:22:30 PM
Who the hell is Milo?
A gay jew on the right who likes to trigger people. September 20, 2017, 02:17:53 PM
'[...] besides, it was too depressing.'
I am sensing some strong convictions about what freedom should be all about.
But when people talk about money, brains hasten out of the back door into the woods, never to be seen again in the conversation, and everything that is considered a given and completely normal in real life, is suddenly turned upside down.
September 20, 2017, 02:13:47 PM
.. from a man who reviewed Bitcoin code in 2008.
Cryddit surely ?
Definitely Cryddit - 'Once Bitcoin became successful, there were copycats. More than three thousand short-lived cryptocurrencies using the same protocol have been launched. At this date most are no longer extant. For a while I tried to keep track of them as they passed, and tried to record at least a few words about how and why each one failed. But I couldn't keep up, and besides, it was too depressing.'
Its legit.
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