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Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 12:11:13 PM

Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 11:53:33 AM

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100. Or maybe 110 tops.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

Not so fast. https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/11/the-incredible-correlation-between-iq-income/

I would agree that higher IQ == greater potential for success. That's a pretty obvious conclusion.

However, every millionaire boss that I've had in my life was cognitively dumber than a box of rocks. And pretty ignorant of worldly things. But they were narcissistic snobs and somewhat evil. So there's that. Undecided

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1) As an EU citizien, I can confirm that nobody will give a fuck if you stay in a different country than yours for an indeterminate amount of time inside shengen, you can make it without any visa and you will have not any problem for having a rent or whatever, so the 3 months rule could be even real, but it is not applicated and not knowed by the vast majority of citizens.

2) As a medic working with immigrants and low IQ's, I can confirm that pattern recognition tests (like raven's matrices) are considered culturally unbiased, and i'm aware of many studies showing a correletion between high IQ and "success". It's just a statistical effect, of course we can have a lot of intelligent "unsucessful" people and many "successful" morons, but it's very clear. Also the correlation beetween an IQ test and "real intelligence is just a statistical effect, but again a very clear effect.

In other words if you score good in an IQ test you are likely to not being stupid, and if you are not stupid you are likely to be more successful in the things you do.

And if you are an EU citizen and you stay inside Shengen you are likely to be kept in peace by immigration authorities.

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The correlation between wealth, power and opportunity and income is much greater than that between intelligence and income.
Much greater.

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Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Recognition is subjective, which makes it clearly vulnerable to bias.

Gonna have to elaborate on that one.

"Recognition is subjective, which makes it clearly vulnerable to bias."

No, it says exactly what I mean, read it again, there is no elaboration needed, it clearly and precisely destroys your statement

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Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 11:53:33 AM

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100. Or maybe 110 tops.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

Not so fast. https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/11/the-incredible-correlation-between-iq-income/

Last of the V8s

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Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 10:18:21 AM

Instead of racism and name calling, let's talk about bigger world issues.

... AI ...

AI died in the 70's. Basically computers can't er compute. Thus and therefore it's just a sideshow.
whole article and writer is good, but especially this comment https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2017/09/02/ai-and-the-human-informational-centipede/#comment-15530

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Quote from: jbreher on September 20, 2017, 12:08:09 PM

shift.

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Quote from: Ibian on September 20, 2017, 11:56:57 AM

Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 11:53:33 AM

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

It's not that iq equals wealth, obviously anyone can luck into a rich dad. It's that iq equals the ability to generate wealth, on average. Which is why the jews own the banks and by extension the west, highest iq group in the world.

Social network effect + social confirmation bias + self fulfilling prophecy + Judaist cultural values lending themselves well to capitalism + various historical and cultural bias's regarding money lending/usury etc.

Not necessarily more intelligent, no matter what the IQ tests say.

The problem I have here Ibian is that you seem to be valuing 1) IQ and 2) wealth acquisition as the measure of the man. Its neither.

I do however agree that immigration policy should be based around the potential value added to society that the individual might bring.

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Hi, BitPay cardholders,

Our prepaid card program issuer Wave Crest Holdings Limited recently announced that it will no longer be issuing or maintaining Visa® Prepaid Cards outside of the territory of Europe.

This unfortunately means that the BitPay Card will no longer be available or usable outside of the countries in the European territory. Existing BitPay Cards and other Visa Prepaid Cards registered to cardholders outside of the territory of Europe will be closed as of 15 October, 2017.

NUTS

You Europeans get all the luck, lolling about with your BitPay cards and your dreams.

Can anybody in the New World recommend a decent alternative?

shift.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 20, 2017, 11:49:00 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 19, 2017, 10:36:31 AM

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Hi, BitPay cardholders,

Our prepaid card program issuer Wave Crest Holdings Limited recently announced that it will no longer be issuing or maintaining Visa® Prepaid Cards outside of the territory of Europe.

This unfortunately means that the BitPay Card will no longer be available or usable outside of the countries in the European territory. Existing BitPay Cards and other Visa Prepaid Cards registered to cardholders outside of the territory of Europe will be closed as of 15 October, 2017.

NUTS

You Europeans get all the luck, lolling about with your BitPay cards and your dreams.

Can anybody in the New World recommend a decent alternative?

Can't you New Worlders buy a gift card and use that to buy a prepaid card?

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on September 20, 2017, 11:58:06 AM

Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 11:53:33 AM

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

Jamie Dimon.

Very wealthy etc.

Does not have a fuckin clue about bitcoin.

Either that, or he does have a clue about bitcoin, and its because he does that he perceives the risk.

Personally I'd say the bloke hasn't got his head around bitcoin at all.

He's not the only one. Seems to be a slew of the sceptics at the minute. Supposedly clever people some of them as well.

You have to understand computers on at least some basic level to really get it and most people just don't. That's why tech supports still ask if it is plugged in.

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Don't humor an obvious troll account, come on man. Just ignore it.

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Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 11:53:33 AM

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

Jamie Dimon.

Very wealthy etc.

Does not have a fuckin clue about bitcoin.

Either that, or he does have a clue about bitcoin, and its because he does that he perceives the risk.

Personally I'd say the bloke hasn't got his head around bitcoin at all.

He's not the only one. Seems to be a slew of the sceptics at the minute. Supposedly clever people some of them as well.

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Again, no, you can only stay for three months if you do not have a job or are studying.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about the Schengen agreement.
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I am a citizen from one of the schengen state, i can and i have stay in Switzerland, German, Greece, Finland(which its quite boring at there) each more than 6 months up to almost two years without being required anything. i am a trust fund baby and the goal is just to enjoy the nice view and different life around the world so i don't work nor study at those places.
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Damnation, I cant get those quote thingis right.

Yeaa you can stay because nobody ever Checks, but as a tourist from another EU country you are only aloud to stay för 90 days formally.

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Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 11:53:33 AM

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

It's not that iq equals wealth, obviously anyone can luck into a rich dad. It's that iq equals the ability to generate wealth, on average. Which is why the jews own the banks and by extension the west, highest iq group in the world.

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Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 11:51:59 AM

Quote from: 600watt on September 20, 2017, 11:32:11 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 11:00:16 AM

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

can you even post without telling complete bullcrab? within the EU (schengen treaty) everyone can live and work where he wants.

What is wrong with you? Yes you can stay if you work or study or have a partner there that provides for you, and some additional rules in different countries otherwise you have to leave after three months.
https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/39201/length-of-stay-as-tourist-in-another-european-country-as-schengen-eu-eea-citize

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Germany You are required to report your non-tourist stay within around one week after arrival at the local Meldebehörde. The exact details vary by state and can normally be found on the cities' website.

Don't like the sound of that. Cheesy

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I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100. Or maybe 110 tops.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

Ibian

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on September 20, 2017, 11:45:42 AM

There was a famous IQ test in the states that was used by the military to decide (prior to a war - I forget which one) who was officer material and who was to be cannon fodder. Many taking the test were recent immigrants. One of the questions was a picture of people playing tennis on a court with no net. You were meant to spot the missing net.
Where could this possibly go wrong ?

The more you think about it the more difficult it becomes to formulate a test that isn't culturally biased to some extent. Of course, when you are the one doing the formulating this is not always immediately apparent.

The military still does iq tests. Useful ones now. And on that note, it is illegal to let someone into the military if they have an iq below 83. There is simply no task suitable for someone that dumb. And that's the military, full of simple and repetitive jobs. Imagine how well those people do in normal society.

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