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Arriemoller

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Quote from: 600watt on September 20, 2017, 11:32:11 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 11:00:16 AM

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

can you even post without telling complete bullcrab? within the EU (schengen treaty) everyone can live and work where he wants.

What is wrong with you? Yes you can stay if you work or study or have a partner there that provides for you, and some additional rules in different countries otherwise you have to leave after three months.
https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/39201/length-of-stay-as-tourist-in-another-european-country-as-schengen-eu-eea-citize

the_eu_guy

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I can lay in bed in the hotel of Zermatt and enjoy the mountain view or go ski for 6 months and walk along the Geneva lake for the next half year. no visa/id/paper asked.

BlindMayorBitcorn

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on September 19, 2017, 10:36:31 AM

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Hi, BitPay cardholders,

Our prepaid card program issuer Wave Crest Holdings Limited recently announced that it will no longer be issuing or maintaining Visa® Prepaid Cards outside of the territory of Europe.

This unfortunately means that the BitPay Card will no longer be available or usable outside of the countries in the European territory. Existing BitPay Cards and other Visa Prepaid Cards registered to cardholders outside of the territory of Europe will be closed as of 15 October, 2017.

NUTS

You Europeans get all the luck, lolling about with your BitPay cards and your dreams.

Can anybody in the New World recommend a decent alternative?

Ibian

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Quote from: vroom on September 20, 2017, 11:34:12 AM

ooh and I thought this thread is about bitcoin

A common mistake

Ibian

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Quote from: fluidjax on September 20, 2017, 11:30:47 AM

Quote from: Ibian on September 20, 2017, 11:22:13 AM

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Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Recognition is subjective, which makes it clearly vulnerable to bias.

Gonna have to elaborate on that one.

practicaldreamer

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There was a famous IQ test in the states that was used by the military to decide (prior to a war - I forget which one) who was officer material and who was to be cannon fodder. Many taking the test were recent immigrants. One of the questions was a picture of people playing tennis on a court with no net. You were meant to spot the missing net.
Where could this possibly go wrong ?

The more you think about it the more difficult it becomes to formulate a test that isn't culturally biased to some extent. Of course, when you are the one doing the formulating this is not always immediately apparent.

Ludwig Von

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Quote from: bitcoinPsycho on September 20, 2017, 11:37:00 AM

Quote from: practicaldreamer on September 20, 2017, 11:25:30 AM

Quote from: Ibian on September 20, 2017, 11:22:13 AM

Quote from: fluidjax on September 20, 2017, 11:15:20 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

Gravey... I prefer tomato sauce

One thing I hope we all agree on : the US urgently needs inflow of intelligent folks... . Wink

the_eu_guy

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Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 11:32:39 AM

Quote from: the_eu_guy on September 20, 2017, 11:12:07 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 11:00:16 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on September 20, 2017, 10:51:22 AM

Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 10:46:43 AM

Quote from: mattimann on September 20, 2017, 10:35:16 AM

BTW, are you guys aware that almost all americans are european and asian "immigrants" Grin

OK, let´s stop this. lets stay polite to eachother.

Yes of course, but that is not the issue.

The issue is that the last time I checked, there is not a country in the world that you can go to, just cross the border, and say "I'm going to live here permanently now." It doesn't, and shouldn't ever work like that.

Ummmmm Have you heard about the European Union?

Edit: 3 years ago I finished my PhD, I crossed a border (by plane) and I said "I'm going to live here as long as I want."

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

FUD.
If you are from one of the schengen area state, you can do whatever you want for as long as you like within the 26 schengen states without needing any extra ids or paper.

26 states:
   Austria
   Belgium
   Czech Republic
   Denmark
   Estonia
   Finland
   France
   Germany
   Greece
   Hungary
   Iceland
   Italy
   Latvia
   Liechtenstein
   Lithuania
   Luxembourg
   Malta
   Netherlands
   Norway
   Poland
   Portugal
   Slovakia
   Slovenia
   Spain
   Sweden
   Switzerland

Again, no, you can only stay for three months if you do not have a job or are studying.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about the Schengen agreement.

I am a citizen from one of the schengen state, i can and i have stay in Switzerland, German, Greece, Finland(which its quite boring at there) each more than 6 months up to almost two years without being required anything. i am a trust fund baby and the goal is just to enjoy the nice view and different life around the world so i don't work nor study at those places.

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on September 20, 2017, 11:25:30 AM

Quote from: Ibian on September 20, 2017, 11:22:13 AM

Quote from: fluidjax on September 20, 2017, 11:15:20 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

Gravey... I prefer tomato sauce

Wyld

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I suppose crime statistics and welfare burden statistics are racist too? Amazing how any fact you don't like is racist.

vroom

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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours

ooh and I thought this thread is about bitcoin

Arriemoller

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Quote from: the_eu_guy on September 20, 2017, 11:12:07 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 11:00:16 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on September 20, 2017, 10:51:22 AM

Quote from: Torque on September 20, 2017, 10:46:43 AM

Quote from: mattimann on September 20, 2017, 10:35:16 AM

BTW, are you guys aware that almost all americans are european and asian "immigrants" Grin

OK, let´s stop this. lets stay polite to eachother.

Yes of course, but that is not the issue.

The issue is that the last time I checked, there is not a country in the world that you can go to, just cross the border, and say "I'm going to live here permanently now." It doesn't, and shouldn't ever work like that.

Ummmmm Have you heard about the European Union?

Edit: 3 years ago I finished my PhD, I crossed a border (by plane) and I said "I'm going to live here as long as I want."

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

FUD.
If you are from one of the schengen area state, you can do whatever you want for as long as you like within the 26 schengen states without needing any extra ids or paper.

26 states:
   Austria
   Belgium
   Czech Republic
   Denmark
   Estonia
   Finland
   France
   Germany
   Greece
   Hungary
   Iceland
   Italy
   Latvia
   Liechtenstein
   Lithuania
   Luxembourg
   Malta
   Netherlands
   Norway
   Poland
   Portugal
   Slovakia
   Slovenia
   Spain
   Sweden
   Switzerland

Again, no, you can only stay for three months if you do not have a job or are studying.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about the Schengen agreement.

600watt

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Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 11:00:16 AM

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

can you even post without telling complete bullcrab? within the EU (schengen treaty) everyone can live and work where he wants.

fluidjax

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Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 11:29:02 AM

Quote from: fluidjax on September 20, 2017, 11:15:20 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

No. it's not, people from lower IQ areas that grow up and are educated in the west still have lower IQ. If the whole IQ thing was western biased, then everybody brought up in the west should perform well on the tests regardless if ethnicity, but that is not the case. And that's just a fact, not racism. But if you use that fact do discriminate someone, then I might agree that that might be racism.

Stop talking shit and actually watch the program!

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Quote from: Ibian on September 20, 2017, 11:22:13 AM

Quote from: fluidjax on September 20, 2017, 11:15:20 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Recognition is subjective, which makes it clearly vulnerable to bias.

Arriemoller

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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!

Quote from: fluidjax on September 20, 2017, 11:15:20 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

No. it's not, people from lower IQ areas that grow up and are educated in the west still have lower IQ. If the whole IQ thing was western biased, then everybody brought up in the west should perform well on the tests regardless if ethnicity, but that is not the case. And that's just a fact, not racism. But if you use that fact do discriminate someone, then I might agree that that might be racism.

Ibian

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on September 20, 2017, 11:25:30 AM

Quote from: Ibian on September 20, 2017, 11:22:13 AM

Quote from: fluidjax on September 20, 2017, 11:15:20 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

No. Patterns. Little drawings of colored squares.

How many of the people pretending that iq tests are culturally biased have ever actually taken one? It's very straightforward how they work.

Ibian

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on September 20, 2017, 11:23:05 AM

Some of my best friends are as thick as pig shit Cheesy

The guy going on about Afghans having lower IQ etc is a racist imperialist knob. Next he'll be saying we are doing them a favour by occupying their country - we are teaching them civility, bringing them culture etc.

Nothing to do with Afghanistans strategic geo-political importance of course Roll Eyes

There's nothing quite like blaming the victim to guarantee a good nights sleep.

You make a lot of assumptions.

practicaldreamer

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Quote from: Ibian on September 20, 2017, 11:22:13 AM

Quote from: fluidjax on September 20, 2017, 11:15:20 AM

Quote from: Arriemoller on September 20, 2017, 10:46:22 AM

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education, and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

practicaldreamer

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Some of my best friends are as thick as pig shit Cheesy

The guy going on about Afghans having lower IQ etc is a racist imperialist knob. Next he'll be saying we are doing them a favour by occupying their country - we are teaching them civility, bringing them culture etc.

Nothing to do with Afghanistans strategic geo-political importance of course Roll Eyes

There's nothing quite like blaming the victim to guarantee a good nights sleep.

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