We are closer to the $5000 mark, gotta test those resistance https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-price-analysis
Litecoin is so undervalued. It should be one tenth of the value of bitcoin.
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September 08, 2017, 06:53:05 AM
Litecoin is so undervalued. It should be one tenth of the value of bitcoin.
September 08, 2017, 06:31:53 AM
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Bitcoin, coming up next 🚀 SegWit effect 🚀 Lightning in action 🚀 Free S2X tokens 🚀 Schnorr 🚀 MAST 🚀 ETF approval🚀 More users 🚀 ...
And many more !
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/la-feuille-de-route-du-bitcoin-pour-les-prochaines-annees-1869168
September 08, 2017, 06:26:24 AM
Your forked shitcoins will never go anywhere, they are not supported by merchants.
They are not supported by the economic majority of users.
You can't buy anything with that shit.
All you can do is trade it back and forth to yourself.
They are not supported by the economic majority of users.
You can't buy anything with that shit.
All you can do is trade it back and forth to yourself.
September 08, 2017, 06:22:26 AM
Just like Roger they think we pay $6-$8 per tx lol.
We do, or close enough.My last transaction yesterday : 0,000008 BTC for fees.
On BTC network, yes ...
September 08, 2017, 05:22:42 AM
September 08, 2017, 05:15:35 AM
Why would I be in panic mode? Are you nuts? Things are going pretty fucking good for bitcoin. It seems that big blockers remain in a kind of panic mode, and it is evidenced by their increasing escalating dramatic behavior and more and more severe attacks on bitcoin.
Bitcoin and the price seems to be handling these attacks pretty well, which seems to cause additional panic of some of the big blocker nutjobs.
I just say clear:
SW is activated - ok - those who want to use it, can do. Might pay lower fees - good.
But you do not need if you don't want to - freedom of choice - good.
Same holds for miners - they can chose mining / including SW TX - or not.
Still miners could stifle SW TX.
Anything not clear or do you need more text?
SW is activated - ok - those who want to use it, can do. Might pay lower fees - good.
But you do not need if you don't want to - freedom of choice - good.
Same holds for miners - they can chose mining / including SW TX - or not.
Still miners could stifle SW TX.
Anything not clear or do you need more text?
Again.. we seem to be repeating ourselves... and you are speculating a whole hell-of-a-lot based on a lot of assumptions and very little facts to support your conclusions.
We don't need more text to conclude your own attempts at spreading FUD.. and the price keeps moving against you. Hopefully you are not betting in alignment with your ongoing FUD that has been going on much of this year with variations in changed topic but still common theme of doom and gloom of bitcoin...
Remember the new year with the passing of $1k.. and sure we corrected to $890 in March, but you bear troll banker shills have been having trouble keeping the price correlated with your doom and gloom rhetoric. Accordingly, the BTC price has crashed a bit over 4x since the beginning of the year.
Crashed up, that is.
Poor lillie bears.. having troubles. September 08, 2017, 04:53:53 AM
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Charlie Lee (SatoshiLite) - a clear No 2X supporter AND his fanboys voted more than 50% FOR the 2x ...
So we see too much FUD in the forums - relax and see the 2nd step of the compromise in the making
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/904565466667958273
Sure Twitter vote results are mostly rubbish, but given his followers + bias this is more than funny.
That poll hardly says anything about segwit2x, except that the responders to the poll are divided.. .. and if the ultimate deciders are divided, then likely segwit2x will not go through because in order to go through it is going to need overwhelming consensus rather than some random divided group about some vague topic about what the fuck iit is that they are supposedly supporting, exactly.
... exactly same as with SW ...
Are you fucking nuts? It is not "exactly same as with SW".
Come out from under the bridge, hv_. Segwit is already a done deal. Where have you been? Segwit was locked in, and then it was activated. Hello? The same is not true about 2x blah blah blah...
The segwit ship has sailed, are you going to jump on board or live in the past in some kind of fantasy world, acting as if it still is an issue... done deal = segwit. Are you with me? You understand?
so to unify such a division / split there was this SW2x compromise (first step to get UASF guys into the boat, second all the rest) - hope you get this some time, but this might be not important here. We should rather concentrate on good discussion behavior agreed?
You seem to be referring to the past..... We are beyond that. We are now in segwitlandia. Have you heard of segwitlandia? That is where we are at.
On the other hand, sure there is an ongoing proposal about whether bitcoin should hardfork in a segwit2x hardfork.. that portion is not accomplished but merely a proposal and discussion point that seems to be a long way from consensus. Segwit, on the other hand, has ALREADY ACHIEVED CONSENSUS. That is correct!!!!!
Anyhow, I am not disagreeing about folks talking about 2x and wanting to get 2x; however, i am asserting that at this time, it appears that 2x does not have a very high level of consensus and is is not likely to be passed under the current bitcoin ruleset which requires a high level of consensus to get locked in and thereafter activated.
Your massive post blahs do not prohibit that miners still can stifle SW TX - if they see need for.
Shilling SW is cheap fees is exactly not what miners might need?
I stop here feeding you - it does not make sense - we can agree on this?
Strange that you are accusing me of spreading nonsense, when you cannot come around to basic logical conclusions that segwit is now activated, and so you are fighting against something that is already done. Does that make any sense? We are not going to agree because you seem to be lacking in some basic knowledge, so if you cannot even get some of the basics correct, then why should we pursue arguments to higher levels? You keep coming into various threads and spreading these kinds of misleading comments, then shouldn't people correct your basic lack of factual foundations - that is if your posts are not getting deleted for their misinformation.
Are you in panic mode?
I just say clear:
SW is activated - ok - those who want to use it, can do. Might pay lower fees - good.
But you do not need if you don't want to - freedom of choice - good.
Same holds for miners - they can chose mining / including SW TX - or not.
Still miners could stifle SW TX.
Anything not clear or do you need more text?
September 08, 2017, 04:47:26 AM
[edited out]
Charlie Lee (SatoshiLite) - a clear No 2X supporter AND his fanboys voted more than 50% FOR the 2x ...
So we see too much FUD in the forums - relax and see the 2nd step of the compromise in the making
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/904565466667958273
Sure Twitter vote results are mostly rubbish, but given his followers + bias this is more than funny.
That poll hardly says anything about segwit2x, except that the responders to the poll are divided.. .. and if the ultimate deciders are divided, then likely segwit2x will not go through because in order to go through it is going to need overwhelming consensus rather than some random divided group about some vague topic about what the fuck iit is that they are supposedly supporting, exactly.
... exactly same as with SW ...
Are you fucking nuts? It is not "exactly same as with SW".
Come out from under the bridge, hv_. Segwit is already a done deal. Where have you been? Segwit was locked in, and then it was activated. Hello? The same is not true about 2x blah blah blah...
The segwit ship has sailed, are you going to jump on board or live in the past in some kind of fantasy world, acting as if it still is an issue... done deal = segwit. Are you with me? You understand?
so to unify such a division / split there was this SW2x compromise (first step to get UASF guys into the boat, second all the rest) - hope you get this some time, but this might be not important here. We should rather concentrate on good discussion behavior agreed?
You seem to be referring to the past..... We are beyond that. We are now in segwitlandia. Have you heard of segwitlandia? That is where we are at.
On the other hand, sure there is an ongoing proposal about whether bitcoin should hardfork in a segwit2x hardfork.. that portion is not accomplished but merely a proposal and discussion point that seems to be a long way from consensus. Segwit, on the other hand, has ALREADY ACHIEVED CONSENSUS. That is correct!!!!!
Anyhow, I am not disagreeing about folks talking about 2x and wanting to get 2x; however, i am asserting that at this time, it appears that 2x does not have a very high level of consensus and is is not likely to be passed under the current bitcoin ruleset which requires a high level of consensus to get locked in and thereafter activated.
Your massive post blahs do not prohibit that miners still can stifle SW TX - if they see need for.
Shilling SW is cheap fees is exactly not what miners might need?
I stop here feeding you - it does not make sense - we can agree on this?
Strange that you are accusing me of spreading nonsense, when you cannot come around to basic logical conclusions that segwit is now activated, and so you are fighting against something that is already done. Does that make any sense? We are not going to agree because you seem to be lacking in some basic knowledge, so if you cannot even get some of the basics correct, then why should we pursue arguments to higher levels? You keep coming into various threads and spreading these kinds of misleading comments, then shouldn't people correct your basic lack of factual foundations - that is if your posts are not getting deleted for their misinformation.
September 08, 2017, 04:10:46 AM
[edited out]
Charlie Lee (SatoshiLite) - a clear No 2X supporter AND his fanboys voted more than 50% FOR the 2x ...
So we see too much FUD in the forums - relax and see the 2nd step of the compromise in the making
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/904565466667958273
Sure Twitter vote results are mostly rubbish, but given his followers + bias this is more than funny.
That poll hardly says anything about segwit2x, except that the responders to the poll are divided.. .. and if the ultimate deciders are divided, then likely segwit2x will not go through because in order to go through it is going to need overwhelming consensus rather than some random divided group about some vague topic about what the fuck iit is that they are supposedly supporting, exactly.
... exactly same as with SW ...
Are you fucking nuts? It is not "exactly same as with SW".
Come out from under the bridge, hv_. Segwit is already a done deal. Where have you been? Segwit was locked in, and then it was activated. Hello? The same is not true about 2x blah blah blah...
The segwit ship has sailed, are you going to jump on board or live in the past in some kind of fantasy world, acting as if it still is an issue... done deal = segwit. Are you with me? You understand?
so to unify such a division / split there was this SW2x compromise (first step to get UASF guys into the boat, second all the rest) - hope you get this some time, but this might be not important here. We should rather concentrate on good discussion behavior agreed?
You seem to be referring to the past..... We are beyond that. We are now in segwitlandia. Have you heard of segwitlandia? That is where we are at.
On the other hand, sure there is an ongoing proposal about whether bitcoin should hardfork in a segwit2x hardfork.. that portion is not accomplished but merely a proposal and discussion point that seems to be a long way from consensus. Segwit, on the other hand, has ALREADY ACHIEVED CONSENSUS. That is correct!!!!!
Anyhow, I am not disagreeing about folks talking about 2x and wanting to get 2x; however, i am asserting that at this time, it appears that 2x does not have a very high level of consensus and is is not likely to be passed under the current bitcoin ruleset which requires a high level of consensus to get locked in and thereafter activated.
Your massive post blahs do not prohibit that miners still can stifle SW TX - if they see need for.
Shilling SW is cheap fees is exactly not what miners might need?
I stop here feeding you - it does not make sense - we can agree on this?
September 08, 2017, 04:03:53 AM
Putting all those paid shills for BCH/x2 altcoin aside, back to relevant things:
Today we've beaten the previous high:
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Bitstamp | Total bids: 56299221 USD. Total asks: 2853 BTC. Ratio: 19732.79138 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0167 seconds
Today marks the first day (at least based on my own observations) that we've had $56 million in bids on Bitstamp. I've been querying this several times through the days, and the asks were mostly the ones fluctuating. Quote
Bitstamp | Total bids: 57956573 USD. Total asks: 2415 BTC. Ratio: 23989.41228 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0161 seconds
September 08, 2017, 03:50:58 AM
No, my claim is that fees are ~1000x more on a Bitcoin Segwit transaction as compared to a Bitcoin Cash transaction.
There are more than 900 altcoins and their tx fees are 1000x less compared to a Bitcoin tx fee. Are they better money than Bitcoin? What's your point, dumby?
September 08, 2017, 03:10:36 AM
We are closer to the $5000 mark, gotta test those resistance https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-price-analysis
September 08, 2017, 03:02:42 AM
..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...
Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?
Seriously, I don't raise such status card too often; however, it should cause me some deference
Dude... get over yourself. This is your first Bitcoin pump, right?
I mean, I salute you for sticking with it through the long winter of 2014 (that lasted years)*, but you have no fucking idea. Go stand in the corner until you've been through _several_ boom/bust cycles.
* no, really - I do
With a dunce hat on, contemplating how stupid your 'deference' pronouncement sounds.
Stop trying to proclaim some kind of patronizing expertise when it comes to bitcoin exponential growth periods and/or your supposed informed life experiences.
There is no exact litmus test that qualifies participation;
Jeebus. You're like a leaf, shaking in the wind.
Pick a position and _own_ it, ferchrissakes. Your spineless situational adaptation is laid bare... for all to observe.
ONLY you, jbreher, seem to be astute enough to detect such vulnerable traits within me. You smartie pants, you.
September 08, 2017, 02:55:41 AM
[edited out]
Charlie Lee (SatoshiLite) - a clear No 2X supporter AND his fanboys voted more than 50% FOR the 2x ...
So we see too much FUD in the forums - relax and see the 2nd step of the compromise in the making
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/904565466667958273
Sure Twitter vote results are mostly rubbish, but given his followers + bias this is more than funny.
That poll hardly says anything about segwit2x, except that the responders to the poll are divided.. .. and if the ultimate deciders are divided, then likely segwit2x will not go through because in order to go through it is going to need overwhelming consensus rather than some random divided group about some vague topic about what the fuck iit is that they are supposedly supporting, exactly.
... exactly same as with SW ...
Are you fucking nuts? It is not "exactly same as with SW".
Come out from under the bridge, hv_. Segwit is already a done deal. Where have you been? Segwit was locked in, and then it was activated. Hello? The same is not true about 2x blah blah blah...
The segwit ship has sailed, are you going to jump on board or live in the past in some kind of fantasy world, acting as if it still is an issue... done deal = segwit. Are you with me? You understand?
so to unify such a division / split there was this SW2x compromise (first step to get UASF guys into the boat, second all the rest) - hope you get this some time, but this might be not important here. We should rather concentrate on good discussion behavior agreed?
You seem to be referring to the past..... We are beyond that. We are now in segwitlandia. Have you heard of segwitlandia? That is where we are at.
On the other hand, sure there is an ongoing proposal about whether bitcoin should hardfork in a segwit2x hardfork.. that portion is not accomplished but merely a proposal and discussion point that seems to be a long way from consensus. Segwit, on the other hand, has ALREADY ACHIEVED CONSENSUS. That is correct!!!!!
Anyhow, I am not disagreeing about folks talking about 2x and wanting to get 2x; however, i am asserting that at this time, it appears that 2x does not have a very high level of consensus and is is not likely to be passed under the current bitcoin ruleset which requires a high level of consensus to get locked in and thereafter activated.
September 08, 2017, 02:53:11 AM
..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...
Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?
Seriously, I don't raise such status card too often; however, it should cause me some deference
Dude... get over yourself. This is your first Bitcoin pump, right?
I mean, I salute you for sticking with it through the long winter of 2014 (that lasted years)*, but you have no fucking idea. Go stand in the corner until you've been through _several_ boom/bust cycles.
* no, really - I do
With a dunce hat on, contemplating how stupid your 'deference' pronouncement sounds.
Stop trying to proclaim some kind of patronizing expertise when it comes to bitcoin exponential growth periods and/or your supposed informed life experiences.
There is no exact litmus test that qualifies participation;
Jeebus. You're like a leaf, shaking in the wind.
Pick a position and _own_ it, ferchrissakes. Your spineless situational adaptation is laid bare... for all to observe.
September 08, 2017, 02:49:19 AM
I wouldn't want to add to the state of chaos ... but if the baboon scat-show doesn't calm down a tad I will go there.
i thing gold is going to catch a major bid? where's roach, did he miss his ride?
i thing gold is going to catch a major bid? where's roach, did he miss his ride?
September 08, 2017, 02:47:12 AM
..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...
Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?
Seriously, I don't raise such status card too often; however, it should cause me some deference
Dude... get over yourself. This is your first Bitcoin pump, right?
I mean, I salute you for sticking with it through the long winter of 2014 (that lasted years)*, but you have no fucking idea. Go stand in the corner until you've been through _several_ boom/bust cycles.
* no, really - I do
With a dunce hat on, contemplating how stupid your 'deference' pronouncement sounds.
Stop trying to proclaim some kind of patronizing expertise when it comes to bitcoin exponential growth periods and/or your supposed informed life experiences.
There is no exact litmus test that qualifies participation; however, you have been proving yourself to be obsessed with bigblock politics and those kinds of thematic distractions, and it almost comes off as you are getting worse. Are you BJA? Hahahahahah.. remember what happened to him... he got more and more nutso, and then pretty soon he shorted himself into oblivion. You possibly may paint yourself into the same corner, especially if you put your money where your mouth is and bet on the fucked up centralized projects of bcash and/or segwit2x and some of those other bigblocker nutjob attacks upon the real bitcoin...
So being in a first exponential growth period does not fucking matter. Each of us has varying experiences and ways that we can contribute to this WO thread and/or substantive bitcoin discussions. So this is not about me.. blah blah blah..so stop trying to distract with such off topicness.. You, on the other hand, might be devolving beyond any possible recovery in your ongoing pumping of alts and your ongoing denigrations of the real bitcoin and its already agreed to rule sets (that involves segwit, by the way
). September 08, 2017, 02:44:35 AM
Sorry jbreher, nothing against you personally, but a lot of bigblockers motives are pretty clear, and I find them unsavory.
He's a paid baboon from Ver & co. Don't get bamboozled by those trying to pretend like they're acting in *your* best interest. They got their big block fork that almost nobody wants to use (they barely achieve sub 5% utilization when blocks are frequent). WTF I can't post here and have my shitty advertising signature post as well... wtf is Bitcointalk becoming?!?!?!?!?!?!
You're slow.Can we get back to the price talk and get away from the BCH/x2 altcoin shilling? Thanks OP.
BTC shilling against BCH comes from the fear of the unknown and the inability to grasp the concepts at play. BTC has been hijacked by segwitcoin. Time will prove us right.
September 08, 2017, 02:34:46 AM
[edited out]
Charlie Lee (SatoshiLite) - a clear No 2X supporter AND his fanboys voted more than 50% FOR the 2x ...
So we see too much FUD in the forums - relax and see the 2nd step of the compromise in the making
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/904565466667958273
Sure Twitter vote results are mostly rubbish, but given his followers + bias this is more than funny.
That poll hardly says anything about segwit2x, except that the responders to the poll are divided.. .. and if the ultimate deciders are divided, then likely segwit2x will not go through because in order to go through it is going to need overwhelming consensus rather than some random divided group about some vague topic about what the fuck iit is that they are supposedly supporting, exactly.
... exactly same as with SW ... so to unify such a division / split there was this SW2x compromise (first step to get UASF guys into the boat, second all the rest) - hope you get this some time, but this might be not important here. We should rather concentrate on good discussion behavior agreed?
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