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legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
satoshi's (who is dead by the way)

Evidence?

For all practical purposes, he is dead.

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Retraction of indefensible assertion duly noted.

Apparently, you have made an executive decision that my actual response was not important, and you would rather just summarize my response as a supposed "retraction."... yeah.. right.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So  "dead" and "For all practical purposes, he is dead." are synonyms to you?


I already explained the context, so you want to get caught up in meaningless semantics, for what purpose?  You want to assert that Satoshi is either alive or has some kind of meaningful contribution that can be made, in current times?

In other words, it does not fucking matter if he is alive or not.. whether he is physically alive in flesh and blood or that he is "alive" for any kind of hope of contribution to the bitcoin ecospace. 

Bitcoin is currently a dynamic of contributors, and satoshi is not one of them (at least not under his "satoshi" identity), except for looking at historical context and maybe some attempts by some folks to give greater weight to some of his words that actually matter in terms of the current living dynamics of bitcoin itself.. which includes recent activation of segwit.. That is great, right?
legendary
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^ Jbreher is one of those ... they think we pay $6-$8 per tx lol.

No, my claim is that fees are ~1000x more on a Bitcoin Segwit transaction as compared to a Bitcoin Cash transaction. Which you would realize, were it not for your overwhelming desire to castigate all who disagree with you, rather than absorb what it is that we type. For. it is all upthread in black and white. Or in monochrome green for all you old schoolers.

But it is so much easier to straw man your way through life, innit?

News flash asshole: No one gives a shit. No one cares. No one gives a shit about XT, BU, Bitcoin Cash, 2X, or any other future fork that you trolls can cook up. Your forked shitcoins will never go anywhere, they are not supported by merchants. They are not supported by the economic majority of users. You can't buy anything with that shit. All you can do is trade it back and forth to yourself. Have fun with that.

Not to mention, that SegWit and Lightning Network are absolutely going to DESTROY all your silly arguments about transactions fees. As if you were actually trying to buy something with Bitcoin Cash anyway. Oh that's right I forgot, you can't.  Roll Eyes

GIVE IT UP DUDE. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT. QUIT WASTING OUR TIME. STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF. PLEASE GO AWAY.



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legendary
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^ Jbreher is one of those ... they think we pay $6-$8 per tx lol.

No, my claim is that fees are ~1000x more on a Bitcoin Segwit transaction as compared to a Bitcoin Cash transaction. Which you would realize, were it not for your overwhelming desire to castigate all who disagree with you, rather than absorb what it is that we type. For. it is all upthread in black and white. Or in monochrome green for all you old schoolers.

But it is so much easier to straw man your way through life, innit?
Keeping of course in mind that the reason altcoin fees are so low is that nobody wants it. The relevant comparison is bitcoin now to bitcoin pre-political bullshit.
legendary
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satoshi's (who is dead by the way)

Evidence?

For all practical purposes, he is dead.

<>

Retraction of indefensible assertion duly noted.

Apparently, you have made an executive decision that my actual response was not important, and you would rather just summarize my response as a supposed "retraction."... yeah.. right.   

Somewhere in your wall-o-text was an admission that you had no evidence that satoshi was dead, so...

yeah... double down on your editing of posts, and remove my eyeroll, too...    I am gonna quadruple eyeroll you for that kind of spinning...

JJG: provably false assertion
Me: challenge to support assertion
JJG: admission
Me: retraction accepted
JJG: but... But... But...
Me: quit digging, man - it's embarrassing for all of us
legendary
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^ Jbreher is one of those ... they think we pay $6-$8 per tx lol.

No, my claim is that fees are ~1000x more on a Bitcoin Segwit transaction as compared to a Bitcoin Cash transaction. Which you would realize, were it not for your overwhelming desire to castigate all who disagree with you, rather than absorb what it is that we type. For. it is all upthread in black and white. Or in monochrome green for all you old schoolers.

But it is so much easier to straw man your way through life, innit?
legendary
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So I'm still looking for some explanation as to how Jihan might be able to enforce his nefarious goals upon the populace.

Simple you centralize control of the protocol via regular mandatory hardfork and back up those hardforks with overwhelming hashing power. You also start off slow with multiple non-controversial changes to acclimate the community to your control.

Talk about hoisting one on one's own petard... If Jihan can do this to Bitcoin Cash, he can also do this to Bitcoin Segwit.

*smh*
legendary
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legendary
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Just like Roger they think we pay $6-$8 per tx lol.
We do, or close enough. Transfer fees are about a hundred times what they used to be in terms of fiat. And yes that is a fucking problem that needs to be fixed.
legendary
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Gold just broke 1350 resistance. Bitcoin moving up. Silver moving up. Irma is coming. A Fed chair mysteriously resigns. Two known trolls on this thread that I have on ignore are still bantering with each other.

legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 11416
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
satoshi's (who is dead by the way)

Evidence?

For all practical purposes, he is dead.

<>

Retraction of indefensible assertion duly noted.

Apparently, you have made an executive decision that my actual response was not important, and you would rather just summarize my response as a supposed "retraction."... yeah.. right.   

Somewhere in your wall-o-text was an admission that you had no evidence that satoshi was dead, so...

yeah... double down on your editing of posts, and remove my eyeroll, too...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes     I am gonna quadruple eyeroll you for that kind of spinning...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes   Tongue
legendary
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^ Jbreher is one of those Jonald Fyookballs, r/btc r/BCash nabs, they have absolute no idea what they are talking about. Just like Roger they think we pay $6-$8 per tx lol.

Anyway, Bitstamp is getting into Segwit  Smiley

legendary
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How is [Jihan] going to make any changes that would be enforceable on the community?

it's simple. the miners decide. the users don't matter.

https://i.imgur.com/GSUXDxb.jpg

zing!

iseewhatyoudidthere.png

All joviality aside, the claim is somewhat more nuanced. To wit: non-mining, fully-validating nodes add no value to the network as a whole.

So I'm still looking for some explanation as to how Jihan might be able to enforce his nefarious goals upon the populace.

This sounds like something Stolfi would say. Non-mining, fully validating nodes _are_ the network. Miners are hired goons now. Where have you been?

Goons. Hired goons.
legendary
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So I'm still looking for some explanation as to how Jihan might be able to enforce his nefarious goals upon the populace.

Simple you centralize control of the protocol via regular mandatory hardfork and back up those hardforks with overwhelming hashing power. You also start off slow with multiple non-controversial changes to acclimate the community to your control.

The lead developers of bitcoin cash calls even calls himself "benevolent dictator".

Amaury SECHET
Bitcoin ABC Benevolent Dictator
https://www.linkedin.com/in/deadalnix

Here is an article that discusses this further

Bitcoin Cash May Fall Victim to Centralized Control by Developers
https://themerkle.com/bitcoin-cash-may-fall-victim-to-centralized-control-by-developers/
legendary
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How is [Jihan] going to make any changes that would be enforceable on the community?

it's simple. the miners decide. the users don't matter.

https://i.imgur.com/GSUXDxb.jpg

zing!

iseewhatyoudidthere.png

All joviality aside, the claim is somewhat more nuanced. To wit: non-mining, fully-validating nodes add no value to the network as a whole.

So I'm still looking for some explanation as to how Jihan might be able to enforce his nefarious goals upon the populace.
legendary
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Merit: 4393
Be a bank
How is [Jihan] going to make any changes that would be enforceable on the community?

it's simple. the miners decide. the users don't matter.

legendary
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Thirdly, Jihan has (at least to my knowledge) no direct involvement in any of the code implementations for node/wallets that run the Bitcoin Cash chain. How is he going to make any changes that would be enforceable on the community? The very idea is absurd.

The Future of “Bitcoin Cash:” An Interview with Bitcoin ABC lead developer Amaury Séchet
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/future-bitcoin-cash-interview-bitcoin-abc-lead-developer-amaury-s%C3%A9chet/

Quote
Bitcoin Cash is the realization of the “User Activated Hard Fork” (UAHF) that was first announced as Bitmain’s contingency plan ...

A lot of people contacted us and wanted to launch Bitcoin Cash.

“Random” people? Or also companies, miners or perhaps well-known individuals in the space?"

All of the above. But I do not wish to mention anyone specifically. Some, like ViaBTC and OKCoin have gone public. If others want to do that too, they'll have to do it themselves.

Sorry I forgot it was just "random people" who contacted Amaury Séchet and got this thing started.

I am sure "random people" have no control over its development.

Interesting I understand "random people" also have a significant financial stake in ViaBTC which was the first exchange to publicly push BCH.

So much randomness


Your non-sequitur aside, again I ask -  How is [Jihan] going to make any changes that would be enforceable on the community?
legendary
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edit: looks like their website copied a lot from yours lol

Yeah... while I have no formal relation to Bitcoin ABC, it certainly appears that the BitcoinGPU website started as a pure scrape of the Bitcoin ABC site.

Still wondering whether or not BitcoinGPU is real beyond the fever dream of a single person. Not devoting a whole lot of thought to the matter though.
legendary
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How do you get a bunch of drunk and rowdy canadians to leave your swimming pool?

Ask them to leave
legendary
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satoshi's (who is dead by the way)

Evidence?

For all practical purposes, he is dead.

<>

Retraction of indefensible assertion duly noted.

Apparently, you have made an executive decision that my actual response was not important, and you would rather just summarize my response as a supposed "retraction."... yeah.. right.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So  "dead" and "For all practical purposes, he is dead." are synonyms to you?
legendary
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Be a bank
^this

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