https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/pull/117 Add opt-in transaction avoidance #117
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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16551. (Read 26635650 times)
August 23, 2017, 11:25:56 AM
August 23, 2017, 11:21:12 AM
... if S2X forks without replay protection, the fork will be a giant mess...
This is what is giving me pause deciding to sell BCH. As is, it provides a free protection option from this possible mess in November, so its utility in my eyes is more than the dumping gains at the moment.
and that's part of their plan. It's an attack on two fronts to lead you where they want you (in their shitcoin prison).
Yeah, I can see how segwit2x can be a sacrificial lamb in order for BCH to survive, without Segwit as some big players have always wanted.
August 23, 2017, 11:10:07 AM
... if S2X forks without replay protection, the fork will be a giant mess...
This is what is giving me pause deciding to sell BCH. As is, it provides a free protection option from this possible mess in November, so its utility in my eyes is more than the dumping gains at the moment.
and that's part of their plan. It's an attack on two fronts to lead you where they want you (in their shitcoin prison).
August 23, 2017, 10:57:22 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.
Still creeping up nicely after that lovely dip a couple of nights ago... currently $4222USD/$5205CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
AltcoinCash is also still hanging in there at $670USD/$842CAD (Coinmarketcap).
Let's see how things go when segwit is fully activated.
Fun.
Still creeping up nicely after that lovely dip a couple of nights ago... currently $4222USD/$5205CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
AltcoinCash is also still hanging in there at $670USD/$842CAD (Coinmarketcap).
Let's see how things go when segwit is fully activated.
Fun.
August 23, 2017, 10:52:48 AM
... if S2X forks without replay protection, the fork will be a giant mess...
This is what is giving me pause deciding to sell BCH. As is, it provides a free protection option from this possible mess in November, so its utility in my eyes is more than the dumping gains at the moment.
August 23, 2017, 10:43:44 AM
Lightning-enabled Visa cards will absolutely crush Bitcoin's enemies to dust.
Muuuhahahaha!!! You hear that globalist bankers? That thunder clap is the sound of your impending doom.
Muuuhahahaha!!! You hear that globalist bankers? That thunder clap is the sound of your impending doom.
August 23, 2017, 10:40:26 AM
What I don't understand is the lifetime part. After 1000€ the card is dead ?
Like Neteller : if you want spend more than 1000 euros (like 100+500+400 in 3 months) with this unique card, you MUST transmit AML/KYC papers (phone, bank account, address proof, ID selfy).
It's not new.
Paypal does this since 10 years (when you are above 800-1000 euros, you must declare a bank account and address proof).
why are we talking about credit cards? lol bitcoin is powerful because you can send value WITHOUT I.D!!
~noobsI want to be able to spend a little BTC on the fly -in meat world, in places where they have no facility to accept BTC.
ps-thanks for the recommendations I shall check them out and start ordering a few methinks.
You need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UgiJPnwtQU&t=648s
August 23, 2017, 10:35:13 AM
What I don't understand is the lifetime part. After 1000€ the card is dead ?
Like Neteller : if you want spend more than 1000 euros (like 100+500+400 in 3 months) with this unique card, you MUST transmit AML/KYC papers (phone, bank account, address proof, ID selfy).
It's not new.
Paypal does this since 10 years (when you are above 800-1000 euros, you must declare a bank account and address proof).
why are we talking about credit cards? lol bitcoin is powerful because you can send value WITHOUT I.D!!
~noobsI want to be able to spend a little BTC on the fly -in meat world, in places where they have no facility to accept BTC.
ps-thanks for the recommendations I shall check them out and start ordering a few methinks.
August 23, 2017, 10:26:34 AM
Traders never cease to amaze me! When it was clear that BCH will appear, BTC will continue to exist as 'bitcoin' and everybody will get free money, the faint hearted shaky hands sold their bitcoins below 2500 just before the fork losing big time. Now, the conflict between 2x and core is endangering the existence of bitcoin, these same traders buy above 4K!!! Little they know that if S2X forks without replay protection, the fork will be a giant mess, both chains will be unusable for days, possibly weeks and the price will crash (maybe even below 1000$). a lot of people will hedge into LTC, ETH and BCH! It will look like bitcoin is dying while BCH is going up like crazy. Of course everyone who supports BCH wants exactly that! (At least the ones who can think that far and are interested in a high BCH price). The recent rise of the BTC price is just a bubble, created by chinese mining whales who want to sell high all and then dump BTC for good. They are free now from the limitation of the core team and can adjust the difficulty to make much bigger profits. Reading between the lines in Roger Ver's and Jihan Wu's tweets, they will trade most of their BTC for BCH and will continue to drive up BCH's price.
"both chains will be unusable for days, possibly weeks" why?
Well, clearly, because someone on Reddit said so!
(https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6vb5fe/nya_segwit2x_s2x_starting_to_fall_apart_pools_are/dlyvsfz/ - I thought I'd read that somewhere before... must be the new FUD being spread)
August 23, 2017, 10:17:43 AM
Traders never cease to amaze me! When it was clear that BCH will appear, BTC will continue to exist as 'bitcoin' and everybody will get free money, the faint hearted shaky hands sold their bitcoins below 2500 just before the fork losing big time. Now, the conflict between 2x and core is endangering the existence of bitcoin, these same traders buy above 4K!!! Little they know that if S2X forks without replay protection, the fork will be a giant mess, both chains will be unusable for days, possibly weeks and the price will crash (maybe even below 1000$). a lot of people will hedge into LTC, ETH and BCH! It will look like bitcoin is dying while BCH is going up like crazy. Of course everyone who supports BCH wants exactly that! (At least the ones who can think that far and are interested in a high BCH price). The recent rise of the BTC price is just a bubble, created by chinese mining whales who want to sell high all and then dump BTC for good. They are free now from the limitation of the core team and can adjust the difficulty to make much bigger profits. Reading between the lines in Roger Ver's and Jihan Wu's tweets, they will trade most of their BTC for BCH and will continue to drive up BCH's price.
No replay protection means there will be no alt coin. When you transfer from one chain, it will also transfer in the other, but if they have different address structures, the ammount you transfered in the other chain will go to another address, which can ou cannot be linked to the address you sent in the original chain.
However, if you never use the other chain, there will be nothing to worry, as most nodes are using Core software. Only those who install the forked software can get rekt, as the address they sent can be one of Core, whereas in the forked chain it can be from another person.
Just dont install any software which is not Core signed. Now how will we explain that to noobs who use bitcoin from cellphones?
August 23, 2017, 09:55:59 AM
Traders never cease to amaze me! When it was clear that BCH will appear, BTC will continue to exist as 'bitcoin' and everybody will get free money, the faint hearted shaky hands sold their bitcoins below 2500 just before the fork losing big time. Now, the conflict between 2x and core is endangering the existence of bitcoin, these same traders buy above 4K!!! Little they know that if S2X forks without replay protection, the fork will be a giant mess, both chains will be unusable for days, possibly weeks and the price will crash (maybe even below 1000$). a lot of people will hedge into LTC, ETH and BCH! It will look like bitcoin is dying while BCH is going up like crazy. Of course everyone who supports BCH wants exactly that! (At least the ones who can think that far and are interested in a high BCH price). The recent rise of the BTC price is just a bubble, created by chinese mining whales who want to sell high all and then dump BTC for good. They are free now from the limitation of the core team and can adjust the difficulty to make much bigger profits. Reading between the lines in Roger Ver's and Jihan Wu's tweets, they will trade most of their BTC for BCH and will continue to drive up BCH's price.
"both chains will be unusable for days, possibly weeks" why?
August 23, 2017, 09:53:15 AM
Traders never cease to amaze me! When it was clear that BCH will appear, BTC will continue to exist as 'bitcoin' and everybody will get free money, the faint hearted shaky hands sold their bitcoins below 2500 just before the fork losing big time. Now, the conflict between 2x and core is endangering the existence of bitcoin, these same traders buy above 4K!!! Little they know that if S2X forks without replay protection, the fork will be a giant mess, both chains will be unusable for days, possibly weeks and the price will crash (maybe even below 1000$). a lot of people will hedge into LTC, ETH and BCH! It will look like bitcoin is dying while BCH is going up like crazy. Of course everyone who supports BCH wants exactly that! (At least the ones who can think that far and are interested in a high BCH price). The recent rise of the BTC price is just a bubble, created by chinese mining whales who want to sell high all and then dump BTC for good. They are free now from the limitation of the core team and can adjust the difficulty to make much bigger profits. Reading between the lines in Roger Ver's and Jihan Wu's tweets, they will trade most of their BTC for BCH and will continue to drive up BCH's price.
nah you don't understand the investment money is pouring into this space the money will come
keep calm ~ all bitcoins will soar!! August 23, 2017, 09:39:33 AM
What I don't understand is the lifetime part. After 1000€ the card is dead ?
Like Neteller : if you want spend more than 1000 euros (like 100+500+400 in 3 months) with this unique card, you MUST transmit AML/KYC papers (phone, bank account, address proof, ID selfy).
It's not new.
Paypal does this since 10 years (when you are above 800-1000 euros, you must declare a bank account and address proof).
why are we talking about credit cards? lol bitcoin is powerful because you can send value WITHOUT I.D!!
~noobs 
August 23, 2017, 09:39:27 AM
The idea of these cards being their anonymity, the more info you must give, the less interesting they are.
In fact there are more restrictions for French users.
In fact there are more restrictions for French users.
August 23, 2017, 09:12:00 AM
What I don't understand is the lifetime part. After 1000€ the card is dead ?
Like Neteller : if you want spend more than 1000 euros (like 100+500+400 in 3 months) with this unique card, you MUST transmit AML/KYC papers (phone, bank account, address proof, ID selfy).
It's not new.
Paypal does this since 10 years (when you are above 800-1000 euros, you must declare a bank account and address proof).
August 23, 2017, 08:56:39 AM
yep. and i think they're reducing it to 250 euros.
August 23, 2017, 08:50:55 AM
What I don't understand is the lifetime part. After 1000€ the card is dead ?
August 23, 2017, 08:34:57 AM
you need to verify to get higher limits. new eu rules for all prepaid cards.
August 23, 2017, 08:30:23 AM
When looking up those cards there is often something like that, what does it mean : "For a new card lifetime turnover is limited to 1000 EUR"
August 23, 2017, 08:14:54 AM
Talking of which...
Does anyone here use any of the Bitcoin debitcards that you can load with BTC and spend your BTC anywhere?
I want to get me one and any recommendations/warning etc would be appreciated.
The more private the better
Does anyone here use any of the Bitcoin debitcards that you can load with BTC and spend your BTC anywhere?
I want to get me one and any recommendations/warning etc would be appreciated.
The more private the better
I'm curious about this too. Was considering BitPay card until that whole btc1 debacle.
Maybe wirex? Ordered some physical visa cards from them recently, but haven't received them yet. They have a 2k limit unverified IIRC.
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