Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17133.

bitjanja

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Quote from: European Central Bank on May 25, 2017, 11:20:38 AM

Quote from: bitjanja on May 25, 2017, 11:17:39 AM

the huge correction is here... right?

where? it'll be huge when it's back down to $1200-1500. right now there might be far more appetite.

yeeh... it hasnt happened yet.

im more asking for gut feelings. For me, it may happen very shortly

But what do you think.. predict a "top" before a big correction movement.

my prediction: It has already topped

deepcolderwallet

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Quote from: STT on May 25, 2017, 11:12:07 AM

Actually Ibian's view is not rare, look at the population growth for major western countries. Then maybe also the demographics within any population growth, sometimes its only the immigrants who marry and have children which leads to society tension possible.

Japan is dying off, China has a falling working population. These factors do not underpin growth, eventually GDP will suffer even though its based on many factors developing not just available working population. The view that people are the cause of problems, cost more then they are worth. This is not a rare view, Ibian is not the anti christ I can confirm, he is a normal person with a normal view and its an incorrect view imo.
People represent growth, relevant to bitcoin we need people to use this crypto standard or it will not grow properly and the price is overblown. A major market trader I follow called negative on bitcoin recently based off this, he does not like the failure to mainstream the crypto interest and as an indicator expects a reversion to mean ie. lower pricing eventually

I feel relieved to know.

Torque

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Down and sideways for a few months would be an awesome sign actually.

bitserve

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Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 11:11:00 AM

Quote from: bitserve on May 25, 2017, 11:03:34 AM

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:53:34 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on May 25, 2017, 10:36:00 AM

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:34:17 AM

Quote from: mike4001 on May 25, 2017, 10:31:03 AM

Down to USD 2640 on Bitstamp.

Kind of glad ... would be good to hover a few days around that mark so we don't really have an artificial pump on our hands ;-)

really ?? lol

We'd go down faster if the pump just goes up like it did in 2013, and probably not even where we are now. Better to have at least semi-realistic artificial growth than a pump that lasts a few minutes.

what meakes you think that this pump is different than the '13 pump ? on chart it all looks the same bro ))

Go to bitcoinwisdom, change settings to logarithmic mode so that the graph is proportional, weekly chart, zoom out to have a full view...... Yeah, it looks similar, but, as you can see, it's just the beginning of it.

Of course not saying this is 2013, but that would be the right way to do the comparison.

that's the most advanced analysis I've seen during the last few years , keep working , good job

If you want to compare apples to oranges that is the right way to do it. This is 2017 not 2013, and many things have changed in the echosystem (for good and for bad).

2013 was a 40x pump, 2017 has been a 2.5x atm.

European Central Bank

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Quote from: bitjanja on May 25, 2017, 11:17:39 AM

the huge correction is here... right?

where? it'll be huge when it's back down to $1200-1500. right now there might be far more appetite.

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Quote from: Bitcoinaire on May 25, 2017, 11:16:19 AM

This is just the beginning of a super bubble. Happens every time post halving.

By the time bitcoin halves in 2020, will be ready for another which takes us to $500,000, or thereabouts....

ARTISTCOLONY is that you ? did you bought the whole cannabis farm in California?

bitjanja

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so..... leaving aside macro-economics, demographics, and whatever other interesting stuff that diverts us from the more interesting RIGHT NOW, lets get back to the WALL OBSERVER & PRICE MOVEMENT topic mfkers

the huge correction is here... right?

haters gonna hate... but this moment looks pretty much it

dont u guys think?

EDIT: BTW, if u gonna get all excited about comparing 2013 rally in log chart.... i also advise looking at the proportion. According to this, we are not at the start of the rally, but very much at the end.

but who knows...

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This is just the beginning of a super bubble. Happens every time post halving.

By the time bitcoin halves in 2020, will be ready for another which takes us to $500,000, or thereabouts....

STT

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Actually Ibian's view is not rare, look at the population growth for major western countries. Then maybe also the demographics within any population growth, sometimes its only the immigrants who marry and have children which leads to society tension possible.

Japan is dying off, China has a falling working population. These factors do not underpin growth, eventually GDP will suffer even though its based on many factors developing not just available working population. The view that people are the cause of problems, cost more then they are worth. This is not a rare view, Ibian is not the anti christ I can confirm, he is a normal person with a normal view and its an incorrect view imo.
People represent growth, relevant to bitcoin we need people to use this crypto standard or it will not grow properly and the price is overblown. A major market trader I follow called negative on bitcoin recently based off this, he does not like the failure to mainstream the crypto interest and as an indicator expects a reversion to mean ie. lower pricing eventually

Coinnosaurus

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Quote from: bitserve on May 25, 2017, 11:03:34 AM

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:53:34 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on May 25, 2017, 10:36:00 AM

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:34:17 AM

Quote from: mike4001 on May 25, 2017, 10:31:03 AM

Down to USD 2640 on Bitstamp.

Kind of glad ... would be good to hover a few days around that mark so we don't really have an artificial pump on our hands ;-)

really ?? lol

We'd go down faster if the pump just goes up like it did in 2013, and probably not even where we are now. Better to have at least semi-realistic artificial growth than a pump that lasts a few minutes.

what meakes you think that this pump is different than the '13 pump ? on chart it all looks the same bro ))

Go to bitcoinwisdom, change settings to logarithmic mode so that the graph is proportional, weekly chart, zoom out to have a full view...... Yeah, it looks similar, but, as you can see, it's just the beginning of it.

Of course not saying this is 2013, but that would be the right way to do the comparison.

that's the most advanced analysis I've seen during the last few years , keep working , good job

deepcolderwallet

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Quote from: Ibian on May 25, 2017, 06:14:59 AM

Quote from: Cassius on May 25, 2017, 06:11:09 AM

Quote from: Ibian on May 25, 2017, 06:08:31 AM

Quote from: Cassius on May 25, 2017, 06:06:31 AM

We clearly have had different experiences of marriage.

How old are you and how old is your wife?

This is relevant, no need to look for excuses to get defensive.

Not defensive. Just aware this is very off-topic and supposed to be getting something constructive done. Unwilling to open a can of worms that - like bitcoin - is likely to be pre-settled in a person's mind rather than liable to be changed by discussion (or, as it happens, evidence - there's plenty of academic studies on it).
Since you asked, I'm in my late 30s and she's 3.5 years older than me.

Ok so she's too old to realistically leave and find someone else, and you likely got married before divorce court became what it is now. That's why you are happy to defend marriage. Your wife is TOO OLD for you to worry about her splitting with your shit.

For the rest of us, it doesn't take an academic study to figure out that getting married today is about the most self-destructive thing a man could do.

Are you the antichrist itself, Ibian?

STT

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Bear market will come, they said.

This sentiment marked the end of a bear market, all factors must be placed correctly in the jigsaw for a full picture. Its a mistake small traders often make I think, tunnel vision is bad, lack of experience etc.

The wall of worry they call this, its counter intuitively a bullish sign of a free market and possible appreciation. Apparent doubt with underlying positives, such as the halving last year which was very fair to say was going to be delayed in its true effects. Way too many threads at the time called the time of the block reward alteration as pivotal when its actually a gradual vice tightening type effect really.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/wallofworry.asp

Anytime I see bitcoin charts and dynamics resembling wider markets I feel a bit more comfortable though its a bumpy ride

bitserve

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Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:53:34 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on May 25, 2017, 10:36:00 AM

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:34:17 AM

Quote from: mike4001 on May 25, 2017, 10:31:03 AM

Down to USD 2640 on Bitstamp.

Kind of glad ... would be good to hover a few days around that mark so we don't really have an artificial pump on our hands ;-)

really ?? lol

We'd go down faster if the pump just goes up like it did in 2013, and probably not even where we are now. Better to have at least semi-realistic artificial growth than a pump that lasts a few minutes.

what meakes you think that this pump is different than the '13 pump ? on chart it all looks the same bro ))

Go to bitcoinwisdom, change settings to logarithmic mode so that the graph is proportional, weekly chart, zoom out to have a full view...... Yeah, it looks similar, but, as you can see, it's just the beginning of it.

Of course not saying this is 2013, but that would be the right way to do the comparison.

willope

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Without ETF, btc will go to sub 500$, they said.
Bear market will come, they said.
BU hard fork will kill bitcoin, they said.
We'll never see 4 digits price again, bitcoin is dead, they said.

STT

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Quote from: bitserve on May 25, 2017, 10:39:40 AM

Totally agree. And for that we need some people to keep selling on the way up. If nobody does this could end up in a blood bath for everyone.

This is what Ive observed a few times but its arguable to what extent selling needs to occur to establish a price securely and allow further price appreciation in a sensible way. I saw this in Feburary and kept hold on the guess it was a reasonably established price base, not that we ever know how demand can change but it was reasonable.

In a much smaller way the price has just sold off some, a mere $130 fall which is little now. The bottom pricing marks in line clearly with a previous uptrend on the medium term. Decent action possibly, its recovered 50% of that fall very quickly but if it can keep confirming to a small extent with trends I'm not especially wary despite the heady pace here. So long as it keeps displaying some apprehension by markets.

Longer term I'm told it must consolidate but its really hard to call that because of how bitcoin is so volatile, its not clear. I think fundamentals might determine price ultimately. Also watch FIAT, the FED and Dollar Index, we all live in the same world over reliant on one currency.

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Quote from: leowonderful on May 25, 2017, 10:36:00 AM

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:34:17 AM

Quote from: mike4001 on May 25, 2017, 10:31:03 AM

Down to USD 2640 on Bitstamp.

Kind of glad ... would be good to hover a few days around that mark so we don't really have an artificial pump on our hands ;-)

really ?? lol

We'd go down faster if the pump just goes up like it did in 2013, and probably not even where we are now. Better to have at least semi-realistic artificial growth than a pump that lasts a few minutes.

what meakes you think that this pump is different than the '13 pump ? on chart it all looks the same bro ))

ARTISTCOLONY

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Quote from: bitserve on May 25, 2017, 10:39:40 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on May 25, 2017, 10:36:00 AM

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:34:17 AM

Quote from: mike4001 on May 25, 2017, 10:31:03 AM

Down to USD 2640 on Bitstamp.

Kind of glad ... would be good to hover a few days around that mark so we don't really have an artificial pump on our hands ;-)

really ?? lol

We'd go down faster if the pump just goes up like it did in 2013, and probably not even where we are now. Better to have at least semi-realistic artificial growth than a pump that lasts a few minutes.

Totally agree. And for that we need some people to keep selling on the way up. If nobody does this could end up in a blood bath for everyone.

what part of WIDESPREAD ADOPTION OF BITCOIN are you fucked up on :\ ===> $3000 SOON

Raja_MBZ

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Quote from: ARTISTCOLONY on May 25, 2017, 07:56:55 AM

Quote from: Totscha on May 25, 2017, 07:48:29 AM

Quote from: Raja_MBZ on May 25, 2017, 07:06:31 AM

BTW guys, some of you in this thread are very annoying.

You guys made me sell my most of bitcoin at the time of rumors of stupid BU. Roll Eyes

1 month back. Embarrassed

What was the caliber of the gun that was put to your head?

the thing is how obvious trollunlimitards were Cool

u read their whitepaper? ha

Yes, I'm glad I didn't sell all, and kept some. If they were true, bitcoin would be of value less than $500 by now.

In actual, they are wise, very wise. They wanted to gather bitcoins at low price by creating panic with stupid bitcoin fork excuse.

bitserve

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Quote from: leowonderful on May 25, 2017, 10:36:00 AM

Quote from: Coinnosaurus on May 25, 2017, 10:34:17 AM

Quote from: mike4001 on May 25, 2017, 10:31:03 AM

Down to USD 2640 on Bitstamp.

Kind of glad ... would be good to hover a few days around that mark so we don't really have an artificial pump on our hands ;-)

really ?? lol

We'd go down faster if the pump just goes up like it did in 2013, and probably not even where we are now. Better to have at least semi-realistic artificial growth than a pump that lasts a few minutes.

Totally agree. And for that we need some people to keep selling on the way up. If nobody does this could end up in a blood bath for everyone.

infofront

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Quote from: Torque on May 25, 2017, 09:33:14 AM

Quote from: Ibian on May 25, 2017, 09:29:48 AM

It depends on incentives. When women can leave and take half your shit for no better reason than they feel like it, then some women are going to do that. As it turns out, a lot of them.

Women like getting married, but they don't like BEING married. Who knew.

+1, have an upvote for what every married man will eventually find out the hard way. Usually when their marriage reaches the 7-year mark, or when their children reach 7-10 yrs of age. Whichever comes first.

Until then it's all blissful ignorance and denial, lol.

Most men don't know how to run their shit. Men put women up on pedestals and cede their power to them. It is not natural for a woman to handle that kind of power, and to lead in a relationship. She'll end up becoming unhappy and bitter, and eventually go fuck an alpha male who does know how to run his shit.

It's easy to blame women for the state of marriage. It's a lot harder to be a real man and take responsibility for the marriage.

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