Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17199.

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Quote from: CoinCube on May 22, 2017, 08:04:16 AM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on May 22, 2017, 07:10:44 AM

Quote from: Asrael999 on May 22, 2017, 03:24:11 AM

So is it an attempt to stop the User activated fork getting traction ?

yes, because the period from august 2017 to november 2017 is the enforced period for Segwit ... not the LOCK period.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0148.mediawiki

so Segwit2Mb is a trap.
they want introduce the 2Mb before SegWit LOCK.

So the folks who want 2Mb don't trust the SegWit people not to break away after SegWit is locked and block a later block size increase?

Sounds understandable given the emotionalism on this issue. It would be very disruptive to activate SegWit and then deactivate it before LOCK. Seems unlikely the miners would do this. It seems far more likely that the SegWit folks would increase their opposition to a block size increase to 2 Mb once they already have what they want.

I am not understanding why this is not a reasonable roadmap forward.

Any block size increase is not a reasonable roadmap forward. It solves nothing! It just postpones the inevitable next block size increase - 4mb, 8mb, 16mb... until full centralization. Big blocktards will accept anything just to follow this roadmap.

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Quote from: CoinCube on May 22, 2017, 08:04:16 AM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on May 22, 2017, 07:10:44 AM

Quote from: Asrael999 on May 22, 2017, 03:24:11 AM

So is it an attempt to stop the User activated fork getting traction ?

yes, because the period from august 2017 to november 2017 is the enforced period for Segwit ... not the LOCK period.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0148.mediawiki

so Segwit2Mb is a trap.
they want introduce the 2Mb before SegWit LOCK.

So the folks who want 2Mb don't trust the SegWit people not to break away after SegWit is locked and block a later block size increase?

Sounds understandable given the emotionalism on this issue. It would be very disruptive to activate SegWit and then deactivate it before LOCK. Seems unlikely the miners would do this. It seems far more likely that the SegWit folks would increase their opposition to a block size increase to 2 Mb once they already have what they want.

I am not understanding why this is not a reasonable roadmap forward.

This roadmap is a new era in bitcoins history.
Soon 2200 USD, today!
Some people just do not want bitcoin to evolve.

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on May 22, 2017, 07:10:44 AM

Quote from: Asrael999 on May 22, 2017, 03:24:11 AM

So is it an attempt to stop the User activated fork getting traction ?

yes, because the period from august 2017 to november 2017 is the enforced period for Segwit ... not the LOCK period.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0148.mediawiki

so Segwit2Mb is a trap.
they want introduce the 2Mb before SegWit LOCK.

So the folks who want 2Mb don't trust the SegWit people not to break away after SegWit is locked and block a later block size increase?

Sounds understandable given the emotionalism on this issue. It would be very disruptive to activate SegWit and then deactivate it before LOCK. Seems unlikely the miners would do this. It seems far more likely that the SegWit folks would increase their opposition to a block size increase to 2 Mb once they already have what they want.

I am not understanding why this is not a reasonable roadmap forward.

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Quote from: spooderman on May 22, 2017, 07:50:28 AM

it's obvious nonsense, just go read up on reddit for a while, plenty of people have torn it to pieces already.

Bullet points on a whiteboard talks.

Real solid & tested code walks.

spooderman

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it's obvious nonsense, just go read up on reddit for a while, plenty of people have torn it to pieces already.

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Quote from: K~Ehleyr on May 22, 2017, 07:34:10 AM

Quote from: criptix on May 22, 2017, 07:23:24 AM

Quote from: K~Ehleyr on May 22, 2017, 07:19:43 AM

Any news on this "agreement" thingy yet? Where's it being announced?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-barry-silbert-segwit2x-agreement-with-80-miner-support-1928093

Ouch, that doesn't look good! There's no confirmed announcement yet though, is there? Just speculation based on a "leak" which may or may not be accurate?

Actually that looks pretty good. Just can not have it all.

+ 1mb to 2mb
+ Segwit signaling
+ lower mempool
+ lower fees
+ price up

- time given to bitmain asicboost
- will bitmain support segwit?
- back to UASF?
- back to where we started

spooderman

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yeah...that agreement is a piece of shit. just another attempt at a delaying tactic.

carry on with #UASF. nothing to see there.

Torque

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Any so called "agreement", privately discussed only by a bunch of suits and not including input from any core devs, will fail.

Period.

Anyone believing otherwise is delusional.

The fact that the suits believe they are in control of anything, or can influence anything, is equally delusional.

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Ooh, shiny things!!

Quote from: criptix on May 22, 2017, 07:23:24 AM

Quote from: K~Ehleyr on May 22, 2017, 07:19:43 AM

Any news on this "agreement" thingy yet? Where's it being announced?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-barry-silbert-segwit2x-agreement-with-80-miner-support-1928093

Ouch, that doesn't look good! There's no confirmed announcement yet though, is there? Just speculation based on a "leak" which may or may not be accurate?

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Quote from: K~Ehleyr on May 22, 2017, 07:19:43 AM

Any news on this "agreement" thingy yet? Where's it being announced?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-barry-silbert-segwit2x-agreement-with-80-miner-support-1928093

K~Ehleyr

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Ooh, shiny things!!

Any news on this "agreement" thingy yet? Where's it being announced?

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on May 22, 2017, 07:10:44 AM

Quote from: Asrael999 on May 22, 2017, 03:24:11 AM

So is it an attempt to stop the User activated fork getting traction ?

yes, because the period from august 2017 to november 2017 is the enforced period for Segwit ... not the LOCK period.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0148.mediawiki

so Segwit2Mb is a trap.
they want introduce the 2Mb before SegWit LOCK.

Who cares the order.
1mb is killing the coin and unlimited would open new exploit possibilities no one imagined.

So 2mb it is , with or without segwit(sooner or later).

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Quote from: criptix on May 22, 2017, 07:00:40 AM

We might see 3k much earlier then expected

The volume people Shocked

I closed my long.
Too afraid of a drawback.
But if you got the nerves there is money to be made right now that's for sure!
I think I'm gonna love this volatility Cheesy

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Quote from: soullyG on May 22, 2017, 04:55:33 AM

TFW you wake up and the price has DROPPED to $2123 Cool

That's what happens when you invest your bitcoins in dollars. #don't do it.

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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)

Just took a look: Transaction volume is through the roof right now. So how are people driving the price up and down so quickly?

C

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Quote from: Asrael999 on May 22, 2017, 03:24:11 AM

So is it an attempt to stop the User activated fork getting traction ?

yes, because the period from august 2017 to november 2017 is the enforced period for Segwit ... not the LOCK period.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0148.mediawiki

so Segwit2Mb is a trap.
they want introduce the 2Mb before SegWit LOCK.

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Quote from: criptix on May 22, 2017, 07:00:40 AM

The volume people Shocked

Volume is pretty healthy. That scares me. I wanted to short Shillberts fake consensus. Guess I'm a coward.

criptix

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We might see 3k much earlier then expected

The volume people Shocked

Elwar

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Viva Ut Vivas

This price is just crazy.

Lovin it though.

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