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legendary
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This looks like 2012 all over again.

So to extrapolate then this year will be to 2018, what 2012 was to 2013.  Grin

fantastic opportunity for those folks who are newbies -like me- so I hope you are right.

hope the price goes a little lower for a while so I can buy more.

PS. wouldn't that mean that January 2019 will be like January 2014? lol

Maybe, possibly lol. But then we have the halving coming in 2020, so....  Grin
legendary
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To get 2/3 or 3/4 of the hashrate isn't THAT easy. At least i think so.



A large mining pool might tip the scales to 51% now. That would be a powerful signal.
95%? Forget it. Ever. Just don't know how that one gets resolved.

51% is not enough to HF securely and you are aware of that 2/3 and 3/4 ≠ 95%?  Wink

Hard fork doesn't need 95% (Segwit does)

Edited to be clear - I think that is what Cassius meant
sr. member
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This looks like 2012 all over again.

So to extrapolate then this year will be to 2018, what 2012 was to 2013.  Grin

fantastic opportunity for those folks who are newbies -like me- so I hope you are right.

hope the price goes a little lower for a while so I can buy more.

PS. wouldn't that mean that January 2019 will be like January 2014? lol
legendary
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Merit: 1031

To get 2/3 or 3/4 of the hashrate isn't THAT easy. At least i think so.



A large mining pool might tip the scales to 51% now. That would be a powerful signal.
95%? Forget it. Ever. Just don't know how that one gets resolved.

51% is not enough to HF securely and you are aware of that 2/3 and 3/4 ≠ 95%?  Wink

Let me just phone Carol Vorderman to check your maths.
sr. member
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Moon has been postponed indefinitely, sorry folks.



For now.
ImI
legendary
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To get 2/3 or 3/4 of the hashrate isn't THAT easy. At least i think so.



A large mining pool might tip the scales to 51% now. That would be a powerful signal.
95%? Forget it. Ever. Just don't know how that one gets resolved.

51% is not enough to HF securely and you are aware of that 2/3 and 3/4 ≠ 95%?  Wink
legendary
Activity: 3794
Merit: 5474
This looks like 2012 all over again.

So to extrapolate then this year will be to 2018, what 2012 was to 2013.  Grin
legendary
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Moon has been postponed indefinitely, sorry folks.


hero member
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Plant 1xTree for each Satoshi earned!
100% there will be dump, below 900$
Mmm, if everybody starts agreeing with me, I might have to reconsider  Huh     Wink


Those are the "troll shill bears" club unison singers in the coir of the drunken protestant lesbian crying church singers for time of mourning! Cheesy Cheesy  ... if you stick long enough around and read all their comments you will hear "FUD acapellas" ringing in your ears when you put your head on the pillow and go to sleep! Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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Nobody will use BUcoin except some socially engineered emotional psychopaths and a couple of suicidal mining pools who are already insolvent and don't risk anything.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1031

To get 2/3 or 3/4 of the hashrate isn't THAT easy. At least i think so.



A large mining pool might tip the scales to 51% now. That would be a powerful signal.
95%? Forget it. Ever. Just don't know how that one gets resolved.
legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!

To get 2/3 or 3/4 of the hashrate isn't THAT easy. At least i think so.


Problem is we don't know how much hashrate Jihan even has at this point. If we're unlucky, he could just unleash his full force and we could be at 2/3 pretty quickly, however unlikely that scenario is. Keep in mind most of the world gets their bitcoin miners from Bitmain, although Avalon is a nice alternative.
ImI
legendary
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To get 2/3 or 3/4 of the hashrate isn't THAT easy. At least i think so.

legendary
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Indeed. They're conspiring a 51% attack:


man, these guys are PR geniuses. way to go to to inspire confidence in the future of bitcoin. they're gonna get everyone's full support with this.
legendary
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Indeed. They're conspiring a 51% attack:

Would anyone seriously preparing a 51% attack tell everyone about it beforehand? Or is this just scare tactics?

I think it's actually smart to do, from the perspective of the attacker. You're essentially saying: I'm doing this. You can get on board now, or suffer later. I.e. by trailing it, you actually help yourself by getting more miners on board in the early stages.
sr. member
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Indeed. They're conspiring a 51% attack:

Would anyone seriously preparing a 51% attack tell everyone about it beforehand? Or is this just scare tactics?
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
It's not the ETF, it's the civil war.  Sad to say but BTC needs to sort it's shit out one way or another, or it's still looking a risky buy.

Indeed. They're conspiring a 51% attack:


https://medium.com/@peter_r/on-the-emerging-consensus-regarding-bitcoins-block-size-limit-insights-from-my-visit-with-2348878a16d8#.z04dwl4gv

No wonder that the market is spooked.
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
But.... this is exactly why no one buys at the bottom.  

And then they look back and say, "Why wasn't I buying then?" or "I should have bought then."  Grin
Exactly! And this is why people complaining that the miners are late don't seem to get a simple point: If the miners had been shipped 3 months earlier then the EXACT SAME THING would have happened to difficulty/profitability 3 months earlier.

What people are really saying is "I should have invested/gotten my miner early AND NO ONE ELSE GOT IN/ONE!". Which is a bit weird.

C
legendary
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In other news, Bitcoin share of Crypto market cap now 68%

It's not the ETF, it's the civil war.  Sad to say but BTC needs to sort it's shit out one way or another, or it's still looking a risky buy.

Yeah investors clearly don't like this situation, especially with BU now calling to attack Bitcoin Core miners before a fork happens to force them to upgrade. Not going to work of course but this kind of hostile behavior is definitely making people flee to fiat or other alts now. I think we'll be seeing even lower prices until this has been resolved.
Imagine being new to bitcoin, wanting to figure out more about it to see if it is an interesting investment.
So you visit Reddit and you get : "Judas ... Attack... Malicious Miners... Censorship...paid shill... Tyrant...Pumper....Idiots...".
Yeah, I wouldn't touch that community with a barge pole...


But.... this is exactly why no one buys at the bottom.  

And then they look back and say, "Why wasn't I buying then?" or "I should have bought then."  Grin
legendary
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Merit: 1000
In other news, Bitcoin share of Crypto market cap now 68%

It's not the ETF, it's the civil war.  Sad to say but BTC needs to sort it's shit out one way or another, or it's still looking a risky buy.

Yeah investors clearly don't like this situation, especially with BU now calling to attack Bitcoin Core miners before a fork happens to force them to upgrade. Not going to work of course but this kind of hostile behavior is definitely making people flee to fiat or other alts now. I think we'll be seeing even lower prices until this has been resolved.

Source on the miners saying this?  Did they mention what hash they wanted before they started?

Super curious about this situation.  There's something that just isn't adding up ...

One of the BU devs, Peter R, wrote about this in his medium blog article today: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6172s3/peter_rizun_tells_miners_to_force_a_hard_fork_by/?st=j0ns7eo9&sh=62821505
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