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sr. member
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centralised from chinese are much better than "centralise" from usa or un or satan eu-nato!!!!
you have short memo or iq "boy"

i don´t get your point. please let your iq enlighten me.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/hacker-guccifer-20-warns-he-has-info-inside-fec-democrats-may-rig-elections
sr. member
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/dont-blame-trump-when-world-ends
whole zerohedge have much creditibility than this canadian iq-0 server bitciontalk
chinese make rich you jimbo, not canada
legendary
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centralised from chinese are much better than "centralise" from usa or un or satan eu-nato!!!!
you have short memo or iq "boy"

i don´t get your point. please let your iq enlighten me.
sr. member
Activity: 293
Merit: 250
centralised from chinese are much better than "centralise" from usa or un or satan eu-nato!!!!
you have short memo or iq "boy"
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2106
Back above $1K, and not a single Average Joe around me knows anything more about Bitcoin/blockchain than they did in 2013, or even seems to care.  This is amazing.

Now I know why they call them "late adopters".  I don't blame the really old, the really young or the unborn. I blame the older, middle-aged folks who have money to invest, but are just too plain ignorant or scared to see the financial change tsunami that is coming.  By the time they finally look up, Bitcoin will be well north of $10K.

I remember my grandmother still writing physical checks for everything, 7-8 years after the rest of society had moved on to using the debit card. She finally used one a few years before she died, and I remember the look on her face.... she was blown away at the speed and convenience. Priceless.

I remember me getting on dial-up on the PC in my bedroom, when my parents though I was in there "hacking" ala War Games style.  They thought the internet was and always would be just a toy for nerds.

I remember carrying around a clunky Treo smartphone (which was actually smaller than your average smartphone today), when literally *everyone* had crappy flip phones and thought that smartphones were only for nerds.  Especially the women, lol.


Yes, such a common story and why the people who see things early get the most benefit.

We get set in our ways and our understanding of how things work / "should" be.

The majority of us get our new information (news) from the same sources: msm tv / radio / web. A much smaller percentage get it from more niche websites like Wired etc. Almost all media surrounding bitcoin has been overwhelmingly negative, pushing the status quo agenda; even the positive 'price going up' reports come with that air of disdain & mocking that often accompanies new things that people don't understand. It just has to seep into consciousness over a period of time.

For the regular person to get an understanding of bitcoin means they have to invest their own time and learn concepts foreign to them. Not a quick process. But humans are good at adapting quickly at that pivotal moment of stress - that moment they realize their currency is being tanked or inflation is eating them alive. That's when you learn shit real quick. You hear about it and see it as a solution. You talk about it with friends, research it and dive in. That's why I think bitcoin comes into its own as the system crumbles.

i missed the entire internet thing when it was starting. i laughed at it. shook my head and kept being full retard ignorant. i did not see any benefit. could not wrap my head around it. to me pc here hyped all along. in the early 90ies you could not really do much with them as a private person except printing ugly birthday cards with your dot matrix needle printer and some gaming. it was actually connecting them through the web that gave them a real use case for home using, but i did not get this.

when it was finally visible what great impact the internet had i felt ashamed of my ignorance. i went back to university to get a degree in history, specializing in history of technology. the digital revolution was a big topic and an eye opener to me. i was also interested in the history of economics, especially money. finally, in march 2013 it dawned on me that bitcoin was the next emerging key technology. connecting digitization, which is on the same level of changing our civilization as industrialization has been in the 19th century, with the evolution of money. finally the internet could be monetized directly (and not through fucked up advertising) 

in the same way the automobile industry got big because it allowed the individual to go wherever they wanted without using the centralized train infrastructure, bitcoin allows the individual to navigate through the world of finance without using the centralized banking infrastructure. this is big.

now banks have more power to suppress the inevitable progress of superior, individual-enabling technology than train companies and horse carriage manufacturers ever had to stop cars. and it still took some decades for cars to dwarf those industries. so be prepared for some head wind (which is exactly what we are experiencing)

i am not a techie. no IT guy at all. i came across bitcoin by means of a historic perspective. what strikes me most is the blatant ignorance of most of the IT guys that i talk about bitcoin. they always laugh. i mean those guys are professionals, the make their income because they figured out that digitization is a mega trend, but they refuse to see the elegance of bitcoin. how can this be?
legendary
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In order to dump coins one must have coins
No, take off the hard block limit and leave BTC exposed to miner's will, you can trust us err them, you have nothing to worry about. Centralized miners are nice guys we ahem they wouldn't do anything bad with that.  Angry

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tl;dr: Centralized Chinese miners are threatening to spend $100 million to kill off Bitcoin if it tries to fight miner centralization.
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/827697817154052096

*EDIT
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
If you own one bitcoin you are in the top 68% richest people in the world.

If you have 100 bitcoins you are one of the top 8% richest people in the world.

600 bitcoins and you're a one percenter.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/wealth

How did you calculate it Elwar ?

Could you show us a screenshot please ?

Thank you Smiley

There's a calculator on the website I linked to.
legendary
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Back above $1K, and not a single Average Joe around me knows anything more about Bitcoin/blockchain than they did in 2013, or even seems to care.  This is amazing.

Now I know why they call them "late adopters".  I don't blame the really old, the really young or the unborn. I blame the older, middle-aged folks who have money to invest, but are just too plain ignorant or scared to see the financial change tsunami that is coming.  By the time they finally look up, Bitcoin will be well north of $10K.

I remember my grandmother still writing physical checks for everything, 7-8 years after the rest of society had moved on to using the debit card. She finally used one a few years before she died, and I remember the look on her face.... she was blown away at the speed and convenience. Priceless.

I remember me getting on dial-up on the PC in my bedroom, when my parents though I was in there "hacking" ala War Games style.  They thought the internet was and always would be just a toy for nerds.

I remember carrying around a clunky Treo smartphone (which was actually smaller than your average smartphone today), when literally *everyone* had crappy flip phones and thought that smartphones were only for nerds.  Especially the women, lol.


Yes, such a common story and why the people who see things early get the most benefit.

We get set in our ways and our understanding of how things work / "should" be.

The majority of us get our new information (news) from the same sources: msm tv / radio / web. A much smaller percentage get it from more niche websites like Wired etc. Almost all media surrounding bitcoin has been overwhelmingly negative, pushing the status quo agenda; even the positive 'price going up' reports come with that air of disdain & mocking that often accompanies new things that people don't understand. It just has to seep into consciousness over a period of time.

For the regular person to get an understanding of bitcoin means they have to invest their own time and learn concepts foreign to them. Not a quick process. But humans are good at adapting quickly at that pivotal moment of stress - that moment they realize their currency is being tanked or inflation is eating them alive. That's when you learn shit real quick. You hear about it and see it as a solution. You talk about it with friends, research it and dive in. That's why I think bitcoin comes into its own as the system crumbles.


legendary
Activity: 1639
Merit: 1006
Back above $1K, and not a single Average Joe around me knows anything more about Bitcoin/blockchain than they did in 2013, or even seems to care.  This is amazing.

Now I know why they call them "late adopters".  I don't blame the really old, the really young or the unborn. I blame the older, middle-aged folks who have money to invest, but are just too plain ignorant or scared to see the financial change tsunami that is coming.  By the time they finally look up, Bitcoin will be well north of $10K.

I remember my grandmother still writing physical checks for everything, 7-8 years after the rest of society had moved on to using the debit card. She finally used one a few years before she died, and I remember the look on her face.... she was blown away at the speed and convenience. Priceless.

I remember me getting on dial-up on the PC in my bedroom, when my parents though I was in there "hacking" ala War Games style.  They thought the internet was and always would be just a toy for nerds.

I remember carrying around a clunky Treo smartphone (which was actually smaller than your average smartphone today), when literally *everyone* had crappy flip phones and thought that smartphones were only for nerds.  Especially the women, lol.




Needed to buy a vehicle on Sunday this weekend, I live in hugely populated section of USA and offered him Bitcoin. He freaked and thought i was nigerian scammer or something said i have to bring cash and only after it is verified at bank with the teller will he sell me the vehicle.

Bitcoin is such a fringe tech.... nobody gives a shit and it is $1000 a bitcoin.... if anyone ever actually gives a fuck it will be worth $1 million a coin.
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TaurusBit.com Administrator
Back above $1K, and not a single Average Joe around me knows anything more about Bitcoin/blockchain than they did in 2013, or even seems to care.  This is amazing.

Now I know why they call them "late adopters".  I don't blame the really old, the really young or the unborn. I blame the older, middle-aged folks who have money to invest, but are just too plain ignorant or scared to see the financial change tsunami that is coming.  By the time they finally look up, Bitcoin will be well north of $10K.

I remember my grandmother still writing physical checks for everything, 7-8 years after the rest of society had moved on to using the debit card. She finally used one a few years before she died, and I remember the look on her face.... she was blown away at the speed and convenience. Priceless.

I remember me getting on dial-up on the PC in my bedroom, when my parents though I was in there "hacking" ala War Games style.  They thought the internet was and always would be just a toy for nerds.

I remember carrying around a clunky Treo smartphone (which was actually smaller than your average smartphone today), when literally *everyone* had crappy flip phones and thought that smartphones were only for nerds.  Especially the women, lol.


legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
It seems to be going up more slowly and evenly. Hm. Maybe pump and dumpers weren't too good of an idea....
hero member
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Bear with me
legendary
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Permabull Bitcoin Investor
If you own one bitcoin you are in the top 68% richest people in the world.

If you have 100 bitcoins you are one of the top 8% richest people in the world.

600 bitcoins and you're a one percenter.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/wealth

How did you calculate it Elwar ?

Could you show us a screenshot please ?

Thank you Smiley
legendary
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I suppose in the end you cant remove the human element.

Humans tend towards generalisation, in a way 1000$ is a generalisation.

You cant separate people from feelings.



This might be valid for people that use $. People that use other currencies have other feelings!
sr. member
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I suppose in the end you cant remove the human element.

Humans tend towards generalisation, in a way 1000$ is a generalisation.

You cant separate people from feelings.



$1000 is only a bit above 7000 CNY. The Chinese probably tended to 7000 CNY, a bit below $1000, then the west probably pumped it a bit more because it tends to $1000.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

you are the one who had been asking about strategies to protect yourself (or your BTC holdings from volatility)

And, also, you were suggesting some method that includes stop loss bullshit (which in essence is a kind of gambling - as you already seemed to acknowledge)


no. i wasn´t asking for strategies in my post. instead i was clearly asking:

so where would you armchair experts suggest a sweet spot for a stop loss ?

while i was asking that, there was a $30 drop which showed me live that it might not be a good idea at all.

you keep repeating your strategy which is totally ok with me if it works for you. i personally do not prefer your strategy - so i said:

fine if that works for you. i stick to hodling.  Wink

it wasn´t me asking for a strategy, it was you rolling out your strategy. so please don´t turn around and open your post with this "you are the one..." rhetoric. because actually it was -as always

you.  Kiss


I guess that I am saying your strategy and even your question is dumb ... because it is a dumb strategy...

You act as if there is something wrong with posters making points that they want to make that are related to your post but maybe it is not the answer that you would prefer to hear... and there is nothing wrong with that.   

I do agree with your overall point, though, that a stop loss, if you were to place it, likely has to be accounting for shorter term spikes up and down.. Maybe that is why I don't really use those strategies because I don't know exactly how you could consistently make money with such a strategy (because it is a kind of gambling)?

As compared with my own strategy... hahahahahahahaha... there I go back to my preferred, incrementalist and seemingly consistently money making strategy.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Tongue Tongue
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
PoolMinor is too bearish. Did he sell at the bottom?
quoted for when I am correct in the soonish drop followed by another small rise followed by another small drop, followed by a steady sideways before any to da moon scenario.

No I did not sell at the bottom. I buy on the way down and sell on the way up, simple strategy as a chartist trader.

No one is saying that you don't have a decent chance of being correct in your description, but you seem to be giving way too much precision to such prediction and also trying to suggest that such a drop is pending at this particular moment... Sure there is a chance of it.. but also there are decent chances that from this particular point prices could go up another $25, $75, $200 or even $500 before such "inevitable" drop occurs.  So under which scenarios are you going to claim to be correct? 

And, really, who fucking cares...?  I mean people are largely in agreement that there are ups and downs and there are waves... and at the same time it is prudent to prepare for both ways.. so yeah, hopefully if guys are believing down is pending, they are not selling 50% of their stash because they feel such a prediction, but selling 10% can still be very profitable and prudent, but I prefer selling much smaller amounts (yet that is me).  I already sold more about 2.5% of my stash in the rise from $800 to present, and even with that, sometimes I am feeling like maybe I sold too much - because there have not really been any decent dips to buy back... so I don't mind another dip... if it is going to come, then it is going to come...

Wow.. as I am typing, I just saw an immediate sell of more than 700 coins on stamp at $1013?   Wonder if that means down?
legendary
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dafar consulting
Bullshit... I own over 100 and I'm not even 10% in America...

maybe compared to the "rest of the world" but who cares

of course it's the rest of the world. and there are several billion people who have to rent or steal the pot they piss in.




It dont matter... I need bitcoin to hit $10K so I'm rich where it counts-America Wink
legendary
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Bullshit... I own over 100 and I'm not even 10% in America...

maybe compared to the "rest of the world" but who cares

of course it's the rest of the world. and there are several billion people who have to rent or steal the pot they piss in.
legendary
Activity: 1330
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dafar consulting
If you own one bitcoin you are in the top 68% richest people in the world.

If you have 100 bitcoins you are one of the top 8% richest people in the world.

600 bitcoins and you're a one percenter.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/wealth


Bullshit... I own over 100 and I'm not even 10% in America...


maybe compared to the "rest of the world" but who cares
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