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legendary
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It's my opinion that we should have been well north of $1K many years ago, that's how much I think bitcoin is undervalued right now.

I fully agree with that. While it was over $1k 3 years ago, that was an artificial high.

Follow the exponential rise from a fifth of a penny in May 2010, through dime later that year, a dollar several months later, bubbling up past $39 in the Great Bubble only to settle in at over $2 later that year, then less than half a year later setting a new ATH at $266 during the second major bubble, only to drop to $50, and then reach $1200 during the 3rd big bubble.

The peaks of the 3 mega-bubbles all rose above the trend lines and were quickly brought back down to earth. Since then we've been substantially below the trend lines and are only recently recovering. The 2014-2015 prices in the $200s were as much an anomaly as the prices in the $5-$10 range were in 2012.

Of course Bitcoin is undervalued now. We have a lot of catching up to do.

agreed.  It is undervalued indeed but the value is showing so much maturity. Volatility seems a thing of the past: it will come back eventually but we saw much happening recently and price is still keeping up. To me that's good. I predicted 850 by the end of the year. We still have time
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
It's my opinion that we should have been well north of $1K many years ago, that's how much I think bitcoin is undervalued right now.

I fully agree with that. While it was over $1k 3 years ago, that was an artificial high.

Follow the exponential rise from a fifth of a penny in May 2010, through dime later that year, a dollar several months later, bubbling up past $39 in the Great Bubble only to settle in at over $2 later that year, then less than half a year later setting a new ATH at $266 during the second major bubble, only to drop to $50, and then reach $1200 during the 3rd big bubble.

The peaks of the 3 mega-bubbles all rose above the trend lines and were quickly brought back down to earth. Since then we've been substantially below the trend lines and are only recently recovering. The 2014-2015 prices in the $200s were as much an anomaly as the prices in the $5-$10 range were in 2012.

Of course Bitcoin is undervalued now. We have a lot of catching up to do.
legendary
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Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?

are you a time traveller? you care about those who bought @$2000? price never went so high or did i miss new ath spike since yesterday?
legendary
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Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?

Well JJG says somewhere between $3K to $5K.  I'm sure that any day now he'll provide some detailed analysis as to why he thinks that, as well as give us some exact dates as to when it will happen.  Still waiting....   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hahahaha...

By your earlier "China" post, I was beginning to consider that maybe, just maybe, you, Torque, have a decent sense of humor, but instead you are going back to your nonsense trolling and your kind of butt hurt communications.

I don't really need to provide any further details than what I have already provided in my several posts on the topic because there are a lot of other folks who are much more technical than me who are making all kinds of predictions that are reasonable, including the link to the Megabull prediction provided by Lauda, above.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17119750


Yes, take each and everyone of these kinds of predictions with a grain of salt and as within a spectrum of possibilities that may play out, but may need to be tweaked under changing circumstances.


I do  



Ok, I think we're cool now JJG.  As long as you finally realize that a) speculation is just that, pure BS speculation, and b) that not everyone that disagrees with you or has an opinion that differs from yours is "trolling" the forum.  

By your post history, you seem to believe that everyone here that might have a short term bearish sentiment is a mere bear/troll account that needs calling out, which is just not true.  

As a long time permabull that has outlasted many others on this sub forum, I get prickly whenever someone tries to call me out on some short term bearish sentiment I may have (which I don't have right now) depending on the day, and try to paint me as a troll.  I can guarantee I'm a bigger long term bull than you and many others are. It's my opinion that we should have been well north of $1K many years ago, that's how much I think bitcoin is undervalued right now.

That being said, though, just throwing numbers out there with no data to even remotely try to back it up is nothing more than uninformed cheerleading.  Which is fine, just call it for what it is.
legendary
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dafar consulting
Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?

Well JJG says somewhere between $3K to $5K.  I'm sure that any day now he'll provide some detailed analysis as to why he thinks that, as well as give us some exact dates as to when it will happen.  Still waiting....   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I wouldn't be calling anyone out on predictions if I were you.... did I not batter you enough?
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?

Price is so high? It's not even where it was 3 years ago.

Poor folks bought at $2000? I'll assume that's a typo. It's never been close to $2000. Even $1200 was an extremely short-lived bubble, largely assisted by Willybot. I'm sure far, far more people bought for less than $100 than paid over $1000. There might even be more here who bought for under $10.

How much higher can it go? Obviously a lot higher. If you look at any long-term logarithmic charts, you'll see that Bitcoin is currently undervalued, scraping at the bottom of the range of its trendlines. Don't ask me to make specific predictions but it has a lot of upward catching up to do.
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Why are bears/trolls so preoccupied with the small handful of people who paid more than the current price?
legendary
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Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?
Price didn't go to 2000 (not on an exchange with normal liquidity anyway)
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?

Well JJG says somewhere between $3K to $5K.  I'm sure that any day now he'll provide some detailed analysis as to why he thinks that, as well as give us some exact dates as to when it will happen.  Still waiting....   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hahahaha...

By your earlier "China" post, I was beginning to consider that maybe, just maybe, you, Torque, could have had a decent sense of humor, but instead you are going back to your nonsense trolling and your kind of butt hurt communications.

By the way, my posts tend to stand on their own, and I am more than willing to provide further context to any post, if there is an attempt at a genuine conversation, rather than just trolling.  Accordingly, I don't really need to provide any further details than what I have already provided in my several posts on the price direction topic because there are a lot of other folks who are much more artful and technical than me who are making all kinds of decent and reasonable predictions (and even bullish), including the link to the Megabull prediction provided by Lauda, above.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17119750


Yes, take each and every one of these kinds of predictions of future BTC price directions with a grain of salt because they may capture a certain moment or capture a certain then existing dynamics (at the time of the posting) and as within a spectrum of possibilities that may or may not play out, but may need to be tweaked under changing circumstances.

 
legendary
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Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?

10x$2000
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 5429
Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?

Well JJG says somewhere between $3K to $5K.  I'm sure that any day now he'll provide some detailed analysis as to why he thinks that, as well as give us some exact dates as to when it will happen.  Still waiting....   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
full member
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Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.

I don't want to ruin the hype but who is buying when the price is so high? I see $777 and all I can think about is those poor folks who bought at $2000. How much higher do you think it is going to go?
legendary
Activity: 4200
Merit: 4887
You're never too old to think young.
Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going flat sideways for a week now... $777USD/$1027CAD.

Coiling for a big move in which direction? My guess (surprise, surprise!) is up.
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 11299
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Has anyone seen this, i.e. the Bitcoin Megabull Cycle prediction? Cheesy

Anyone noticed the increase in hashrate this year ?

Incredible.
This website has a better overview.

Quote
Dec 31 2015   103,880,340,815   11.16%   743,604,444 GH/s
.....
Dec 02 2016   286,765,766,821   1.76%   2,052,749,317 GH/s
~176% increase.

I had not seen that megabull prediction, and it is pretty interesting, and will be more interesting if any of the targets are reached, and quite spectacular if any of the upside targets play out.

By the way, upside targets for peaking by February 16, 2017 are interesting, too.

>>>>>Potential ATH             Targets are:
$2,661 USD
$4,200 USD
$5,276 USD
$8,720 USD
$14,000 USD <<<


Regarding the ongoing increases in the hashrate... it is really ironic that all the post halvening exiting of miners is still causing the hashrate to increase on an ongoing basis and pretty much at the same levels as it increased prior to the halvening, ironic.   Cheesy Cheesy


 
legendary
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weird move. i'd be keeping it under my hat until i knew for sure it was gonna happen. still, i guess it keeps people excited.
legendary
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Looks to me like we are getting close to a make or break point in the rally in the next couple of days.

The next 24 hours are critical?
might take longer than that, but TA-wise, I would say yes.


Maybe the next 26.666666 hours are critical or the next 29.999999 hours, right Torque?    

Nope. Only $769.9999 matters now. Because...

legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Looks to me like we are getting close to a make or break point in the rally in the next couple of days.

The next 24 hours are critical?
might take longer than that, but TA-wise, I would say yes.


Maybe the next 26.666666 hours are critical or the next 29.999999 hours, right Torque?   
legendary
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Permabull Bitcoin Investor
legendary
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Looks to me like we are getting close to a make or break point in the rally in the next couple of days.

The next 24 hours are critical?

legendary
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Terminated.
Has anyone seen this, i.e. the Bitcoin Megabull Cycle prediction? Cheesy

Anyone noticed the increase in hashrate this year ?

Incredible.
This website has a better overview.

Quote
Dec 31 2015   103,880,340,815   11.16%   743,604,444 GH/s
.....
Dec 02 2016   286,765,766,821   1.76%   2,052,749,317 GH/s
~176% increase.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Anyone noticed the increase in hashrate this year ?

Incredible.
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