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legendary
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looks like $780 is all but done now ... cut your looses shorts.

$800 next stop.

780?

770 is resistance. You're assuming the bulls will blast through that?

Or maybe you're looking at a different exchange than the ones I look at?


any genuine exchange is trading >$780 spot price ... fake coins and futures exchanges are only sometimes indicative of real deliverable coins prices, sometimes they catch up
Bitstamp, bitfinex and btc-e are all fake?
sr. member
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Looking at 1wk candles, the features to this rise are unlike before when market cap was tiny. Similar to how the Nov 2013 peak dwarves the April 2013 run-up, this one will make Nov 2013 look tiny, but it will take longer. I say Bull market for all of 2017 with some dull periods. Any buy here is protected quite well with support and from mining reward halving, looking at a potential ATH of > $3000 in my opinion.  
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
looks like $780 is all but done now ... cut your looses shorts.

$800 next stop.

780?

770 is resistance. You're assuming the bulls will blast through that?

Or maybe you're looking at a different exchange than the ones I look at?


any genuine exchange is trading >$780 spot price ... fake coins and futures exchanges are only sometimes indicative of real deliverable coins prices, sometimes they catch up
donator
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looks like $780 is all but done now ... cut your looses shorts.

$800 next stop.

780?

770 is resistance. You're assuming the bulls will blast through that?

Or maybe you're looking at a different exchange than the ones I look at?

legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
looks like $780 is all but done now ... cut your looses shorts.

$800 next stop.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Get ready haha! Pump everything in bitcoin.
Pumping everything in bitcoin? Checking out current the price of bitcoin, bitcoin is down some how.Whats going on mate cos it seems like you know something good will happen pretty soon, isn't it?


"Checking out current the price of bitcoin, bitcoin is down some how"

Are you trolling, Hulla?  Or have you been sleeping under a rock?   Explain exactly how bitcoin prices could be down when it is currently largely floating in the $750s?

It would be pretty easy to point out our current BTC price situation that would assist many folks to conclude that bitcoin is NOT currently "down", but maybe it would be better to let you go first?  go ahead.  I am waiting.  how do you come to any kind of meaningful conclusion that BTC is currently "down"?


Ok mate, I knew the current price of bitcoin is far better than second quater of this year and if I said tthe price is down I meant the price of bitcoin as at Friday/Saturday was 765$. Roger that?


O.k... That clarification of what you meant by "down" is fair enough. 

Likely, I am reacting with a bit more assertiveness than necessary because it seems a bit problematic to look at such short term price changes without putting those assessments into context.

Sure, it is possible that we could experience some never returning explosive uptrend in prices, but it seems to be quite more likely that we are going to experience several consolidation periods and even small retractions ... yet overall, we seem to be continuing to experience a considerable amount of ongoing upwards price pressures.. and our corrections since lower $600s have been largely insubstantial with continued upwards price pressures.

I surely don't have any kind of crystal ball, but it seems to be within reasonable possibilities that we could get another explosive upward leg into the mid - $800s... but also, we could experience a significant downward correction too... just to weed out some of the weak hands....  Currently, I would place the odds of another upwards 5% leg as slightly better than 50% as compared with a 10% downward leg.


Ok and that's still fair enough cos every successful business must accept debt. Though, the debt must not be much. However, savetherainforest said is time for new predictions. Does that mean we should be accepting something more bigger before the end of this year?

I doubt that any of us really know for sure, and if you rely on savetherainforest for your predictions, then you may be in a bit of trouble. 

Regarding your point about debt, I don't engage in any kind of meaningful leveraging in my bitcoin investments because I think that is much too dangerous for me, and I think that there is plenty of opportunities to make a considerable amount of money in bitcoin without employing leveraging.

Regarding the actual price direction of bitcoin.  We can see certain ongoing upwards price pressures and we see a lot of adoption.  Yet at the same time, whenever we get continued movement upwards in the price, for example from lower $600s to upper $700s over two months without any kind of meaningful downward correction, we could reasonably expect that there is a possibility of a significant downward correction that could happen at any time, but that possibility for a downward price correction does not change the overall dynamics that there is a lot of ongoing upwards price pressures based on adoption and various developments. 

Also, a downward correction, even though possibly and even technically expected, does not have to take place, so I personally don't really know where the price is going to go in the short term.  I accumulate bitcoins with the presumption that in the longer term BTC prices are going up, but I also attempt to prepare my bitcoin investment in such a way that I can take advantage of downward price corrections that are likely to happen from time to time (and even at unexpected times).







hero member
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Edit: and how about https://transferwise.com/? Seems a great solution for remittances!

I used these jokers back in 2013 to wire money to Bitstamp as it was cheaper, until, lo and behold they banned deposits to all Bitcoin exchanges. If you trigger a hidden threshold, you also have to supply ID.

Haha wow. Great point. That's really the one thing that sets BTC apart. No shit like that.
legendary
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Edit: and how about https://transferwise.com/? Seems a great solution for remittances!

I used these jokers back in 2013 to wire money to Bitstamp as it was cheaper, until, lo and behold they banned deposits to all Bitcoin exchanges. If you trigger a hidden threshold, you also have to supply ID.
donator
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http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-triple-2017-saxo-bank-prediction/ What do you guys think of this news?
Is there a possibility of this prediction to come true?

yes. or it could be $2 or $200,000. most experts were predicting $4000 plus for 2014. that didn't quite happen.

I was predicting a price of $750 for January 1 back in 2015.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/predict-the-price-for-january-1-2017-1309383

 Wink


well done... but it's 2017 just yet Wink

also from that thread:

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And then you'll sell it all at $750?

Watch this video repeatedly until you know why you shouldn't.

Thank me later.
hero member
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http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-triple-2017-saxo-bank-prediction/ What do you guys think of this news?
Is there a possibility of this prediction to come true?

yes. or it could be $2 or $200,000. most experts were predicting $4000 plus for 2014. that didn't quite happen.

I was predicting a price of $750 for January 1 back in 2015.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/predict-the-price-for-january-1-2017-1309383

 Wink


legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-triple-2017-saxo-bank-prediction/ What do you guys think of this news?
Is there a possibility of this prediction to come true?

yes. or it could be $2 or $200,000. most experts were predicting $4000 plus for 2014. that didn't quite happen.

I was predicting a price of $750 for January 1 back in 2015.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/predict-the-price-for-january-1-2017-1309383

 Wink
sr. member
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http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-triple-2017-saxo-bank-prediction/ What do you guys think of this news?
Is there a possibility of this prediction to come true?

yes. or it could be $2 or $200,000. most experts were predicting $4000 plus for 2014. that didn't quite happen.
Predictions doesnot work in case of bitcoins, nobody predicted that in 2015 we will have low prices but we had.
legendary
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Circle is stepping out of Bitcoin, they want to create there own private Blockchain  Undecided

Followed by cheap FUD claiming we’ll not be using Bitcoin in 5 or 10 Years...

Hmmm, Mike Hearn 2.0

FUD article from Fortune

http://fortune.com/2016/12/07/circle-blockchain/

FUD article from Circle CEO

http://coinjournal.net/circle-ceo-allaire-highly-unlikely-well-using-bitcoin-5-10-years/

I see all this last minute negative news as bullish AF for Bitcoin. The media has said next to nothing about bitcoin's entire rise this year (up almost 100%, handily beating almost all mainstream equities), but has to pounce on and poop out a few negative articles here at the end of 2016.

So what does that tell you about next year?  Remember, they need Average Joe to first hesitate, then finally come in late in the game and end up the final bagholder.

"When everyone else is fearful..."
legendary
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http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-triple-2017-saxo-bank-prediction/ What do you guys think of this news?
Is there a possibility of this prediction to come true?

yes. or it could be $2 or $200,000. most experts were predicting $4000 plus for 2014. that didn't quite happen.
legendary
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yes.





Because of cashless society.
hero member
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http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-triple-2017-saxo-bank-prediction/ What do you guys think of this news?
Is there a possibility of this prediction to come true?
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Up a smidgen since this time yesterday... $772USD/$1023CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

No big deal but a slight upward creep is better than a downward grind.

legendary
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gold 2.0 would probably  entail a way higher valuation than Internet cash but I can't see it happening while any type of doubt remains about capacity and political wrangling.

if it had arrived set in stone ready for that role it would just be a case of sitting back and waiting for more people to learn about it, but that's not the case.

as satoshi himself said it's either heading for triumph or oblivion within a few years.

the falling block reward is a time bomb in that aspect.
hero member
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Circle is stepping out of Bitcoin, they want to create there own private Blockchain  Undecided

Followed by cheap FUD claiming we’ll not be using Bitcoin in 5 or 10 Years...

Hmmm, Mike Hearn 2.0

FUD article from Fortune

http://fortune.com/2016/12/07/circle-blockchain/

FUD article from Circle CEO

http://coinjournal.net/circle-ceo-allaire-highly-unlikely-well-using-bitcoin-5-10-years/

Well the BTC-core developers aren't really hard at work creating a payment network for the masses. Nor are the problems about governance being adressed. Bitcoin will be something else imo, the gold standard for other, more useful crypto's. And a decent store of value.

I have adjusted my hopes about the future value of BTC accordingly. Not dreaming of a personal island or a yacht anymore ;+)

Edit: has anyone tried Venmo yet? Sounds useful!

Edit: and how about https://transferwise.com/? Seems a great solution for remittances!
legendary
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I think this is a damn shame however you look at it. I've used it a couple of times and it was ultra smooth. no id required either. I can't say I'm surprised. I wonder how patient some of these vc investors are. they're certainly not looking unicorn ish any time soon.
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