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legendary
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Good AM Bitcoinland.

Negligible change since yesterday... $749USD/$1011CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

It's been pretty flat this week. What will the weekend bring? Down before up? Simple move upward? More sideways?

Even if it dips, I seriously doubt it will go much below $720.



In a couple of days there should be another attempt to break resistance. If it fails to, then the uptrend will be broken and we'll test support and we'll have a boring 2017.
legendary
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Good AM Bitcoinland.

Negligible change since yesterday... $749USD/$1011CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

It's been pretty flat this week. What will the weekend bring? Down before up? Simple move upward? More sideways?

Even if it dips, I seriously doubt it will go much below $720.

legendary
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id like to remind everyone that

SegWit is great for Bitcoin. It brings more transaction throughput, fixes malleability, defrags the UTXO set, makes hardware wallets more secure and most importantly, it enables Lightning which will bring instant low cost Bitcoin transactions to the world. The team at BTCC have been working hard at making their exchange and mining pool services SegWit ready, and everyone else should do the same.

You are correct but people are forgetting one major thing; Bitcoin cannot go mainstream with just bigger blocks. You need something like 1gig blocks to make a shot for it, the internet cant even handle that. Hardforking from 1mb all the way up to 1gig is just a no-go zone, Lightning will fulfill that job because you really want to have high capacity when ''monkey see monkey do'' situation arrives.

Bitcoin is booming all over the globe, what will happen with the memepool with to low mb blocks if millions if not a few billion off people want to use the network? We will be seeing millions of unconfirmed txs that will lead to a more panic situation than now.

If someone doesn't like Lightning well youre are not forced to use it, you can always use the normal payment option like today...Also lots of private keys coins will be lost when millions of sheeps start to use Bitcoin. The more payment options ore layers there is the better. Look at Roostock they use another layer for there Smart Contracts using Bitcoin for security just like Kim.com with his BitCache!

Segwit followed with the Lightning network is the best possible update Bitcoin can have. Those unlimited guys are very short sighted they screaming for bigger blocks no matter what the consequences are Shocked

I want to see Bitcoin beeing used by many as possible, not because for the $$ (making $$ is sweet but it's not my 1st priority ) but to free youre self from the Zionist Jew Fiat Debt Slave Pyramide Ponzi Banking System.
legendary
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Today my son drew me this picture at school. Is it a sign? or is that a black wall  Smiley








Could be a black wall but it doesn't look strong enough to stop the rocket powering through it on its moon bound mission Wink
legendary
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Hey all, would love to participate in the ongoing segwit conversation that many seem to be having, but apparently the mods believe in just selectively culling whatever posts in this thread they want to remove about that topic (or any topic), without any explanation as to why.

I guess (selective, random) censorship is alive and well here.

It's for your own good, obviously! Don't want you hurting yourself thinking too much Wink /s

On topic, I'm waiting for another high volume drop/rebound off ~$700-$710 before we start moving up in any major way.


Yes another drop to the $700 level could be expected before moving up again.
Testing this level a several times before trying go for 800 or even higher seems to be needed or wanted by some market participants.
Maybe it's going to happen this weekend! Weekends often have surprised us.
legendary
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After scrapping 500 and 1,000 rupee bank notes few weeks ago the rumor is now that the Indian goverment wants to ban imported gold  Shocked

These are extreem measures to reduce corruption and money laundering activities...

https://cointelegraph.com/news/india-to-ban-gold-importation-bitcoin-price-rally-market-shock-imminent
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Hey all, would love to participate in the ongoing segwit conversation that many seem to be having, but apparently the mods believe in just selectively culling whatever posts in this thread they want to remove about that topic (or any topic), without any explanation as to why.

I guess (selective, random) censorship is alive and well here.

It's for your own good, obviously! Don't want you hurting yourself thinking too much Wink /s

On topic, I'm waiting for another high volume drop/rebound off ~$700-$710 before we start moving up in any major way.


good targets.
hero member
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Hey all, would love to participate in the ongoing segwit conversation that many seem to be having, but apparently the mods believe in just selectively culling whatever posts in this thread they want to remove about that topic (or any topic), without any explanation as to why.

I guess (selective, random) censorship is alive and well here.

It's for your own good, obviously! Don't want you hurting yourself thinking too much Wink /s

On topic, I'm waiting for another high volume drop/rebound off ~$700-$710 before we start moving up in any major way.
hero member
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Stead and slow fall of price

when will it stop
Yes, you're right stead fall of price is currently happen but my prediction is that the price will increase last week which it does and my prediction this week is that the price string up from weekend.

It's gone from $350 to $335. That's not a slow fall of price, that's noise. A slow fall of price is $100 down. JimboToronto doesn't think the price is slowly falling because he commented on the price being almost the same as yesterday. If it goes back up by $15 will you say it's slowly steadily pumping?
You're correct cos the price literally reduces everyday and what I know is that the price will pump up this weekend.
legendary
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It is clear that manu are cashing out to enjoy a nice buying experience for this Black Friday.  Smiley
After the Black Friday we should go up again.  Cool

Or, at least, that's what I hope.
legendary
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legendary
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The bear is coming. Run for your lives.

unfortunately i agree

market understands now that segwit wont come

If it doesn't come because of opposition from the bigblockers, then this makes it apparent that they are not really interested in scaling and they probably never were. They just used scaling as an excuse for attempting a governance coup. So when scaling solutions were presented they didn't go with it and instead pretended to be dissatisfied opting for something else.

Bitcoin has no issue with this: Even if segwit doesn't pass, bitcoin's scaling will continue upwards in terms of volume as some micro-txs will be replaced by larger txs. If instead of having 0.5$ txs you have 1$ txs, transaction volume (in USD) is doubled. If you go to 5$ txs, it goes 10x, etc etc. By having more value transacted per tx, while gradually eliminating very small txs, the network will process an increasing amount of money per day. Offchain txs or sidechains and altcoins will probably cover very small micro-txs while Bitcoin goes on to scale beyond Paypal in terms of annual volume (USD).

I wouldn't have a problem with 1mb staying as it is for a while more while an increasing amount of spammy transactions get evicted. The fees are ridiculously low, even for top priority, while at low priority fees are approaching zero cents - which indicate that there is no real shortage of transaction space.

In market terms, the only people concerned about "scaling" and making bogus price associations due to "scaling", are trolls. The market knows that as Bitcoin is, is OK, no matter what happens - unless it is contentiously forked (which is the only time the market negatively reacts - and rightly so). "Scaling worries", per se, didn't bother the price rising from 200 to 800 - despite what all the trolls were saying. Why? Because scaling value can continue even at 3 tx/s, by dumping miniscule or spammy txs in favor of larger & legit txs.

Scaling scares, fee scares, "bitcoin will collapse due to mempool" scares, growth scares, price scares, post-halving hashrate scares, have all been pretty much bogus. I'm pretty confident BTC can continue at least into 2018+ with 1MB and nothing will happen - except scaling up in value and indirectly evicting low-value and spammy txs, which will go offchain/sidechain/alt-chain (supposing they are legit).

Much truth and wisdom in these words ... it was never about 'scaling' but 'governance' (they said that at the beginning).

The whole 'scaling debate' is a bogus issue designed to divide and conquer and some of the usual useful idiots have fallen for it. The techno-economic challenge is essentially whether bitcoin can increase capacity and it is doesn't even need to be capacity of transactions, ultimately as long as Bitcoin's capacity of value transacted is increasing, we're golden.
newbie
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Stead and slow fall of price

when will it stop
Yes, you're right stead fall of price is currently happen but my prediction is that the price will increase last week which it does and my prediction this week is that the price string up from weekend.

I'm not sure whether it is worth the effort to give any benefit of the doubt to the genuineness of this "down" characterization?

If you are coming up with any kind of conclusion about "down" you seem to be looking too short term, and you need to zoom out a little bit and look at context.

Maybe I can help out a little bit?  More or less, here's our current BTC price context.


In May/June 2016, we had a run up from mid $400s to upper $700s, then we had a close to 20% downward correction that was exacerbated and extended in part due to the early August Bitfinex "hack".

Since early October, we have experienced a pretty steady uptrend and several relatively small corrections during attempts to break through the lower to mid $700s.  

Our current price range seems to be largely floating in the upper end of the range of an ongoing uptrend pressures, largely between $715 and $755 - Maybe it could make some sense to suggest "downwards" if we start breaking below $720 or $715, otherwise prices seem to currently be in an "up" and remain "up", even we are going to experience some near term dips into the lower $720s.

Where do we go from here remains another question that remains bit difficult to determine, whether you are looking at charts, fundamentals or FUD spreading.  

I am personally a tiny bit more inclined to think that continued upwards movement into the upper $700s to mid $800s is more likely than a break below $700, but I certainly would not bet the farm on any such suggestion when maybe the odds are maybe around 55% for up and around 45% for down or something like that.  By the way, once we get into the upper $700s or mid $800s, it would not be surprising to experience a pretty decent battle and downwards correction at that point (even though it is not absolutely needed in order to experience continued upwards movement, such as a 5 to 10x explosion)

So yeah, wake me up and start making tiny assertions of "down" if we break below $720, and you have permission to be more vocal about short to medium term "down" if "downwards price movements" begin to appear that $700 may be tested, again.  

We would only get into longer term discussions of "down" if it appeared that we were to be going below $550 or maybe lower, and with more than a $150 cushion, no one really seems to making those kinds of longer term "down" assertions, yet.
newbie
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Stead and slow fall of price

when will it stop
Yes, you're right stead fall of price is currently happen but my prediction is that the price will increase last week which it does and my prediction this week is that the price string up from weekend.

It's gone from $350 to $335. That's not a slow fall of price, that's noise. A slow fall of price is $100 down. JimboToronto doesn't think the price is slowly falling because he commented on the price being almost the same as yesterday. If it goes back up by $15 will you say it's slowly steadily pumping?
hero member
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Stead and slow fall of price

when will it stop
Yes, you're right stead fall of price is currently happen but my prediction is that the price will increase last week which it does and my prediction this week is that the price string up from weekend.
legendary
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i'm watching Navy CIS: New Orleans and guess what they just talked about?

Using bitcoins to sell illegal stuff.

Adoption friends!  Grin
legendary
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The bear is coming. Run for your lives.

unfortunately i agree

market understands now that segwit wont come

If it doesn't come because of opposition from the bigblockers, then this makes it apparent that they are not really interested in scaling and they probably never were. They just used scaling as an excuse for attempting a governance coup. So when scaling solutions were presented they didn't go with it and instead pretended to be dissatisfied opting for something else.

the explanation is much easier than this: pride.

the chinese miners have been humiliated in public with the breach of the HK-2MB-agreement and now maxwell and others expect them to cooperate? it would be seen as a public bowing infront of folks that insulted and betrayed them publicly for the last 12months. i remember here especially LukeJr that said some pretty nasty things about the chinese mining operators. so even if you look at it from an western perspective you should be easily able to understand why after all this fuck-up they refuse to cooperate. and if you go one step further and are able to understand asian culture you will even more be able to understand why (after the breach of the HK-agreement and the open insults) they are basically not able to activate segwit.

pride is some strong motivation.

even in greece.  Grin


yeah that might be a problem. People digging in their feet for their agenda instead of what's good for BTC. Yeah segwit is great but we won't let it happen because we're upset, i doubt they'll get much empathy from the community that way
legendary
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see the conversation around here has again become dominated by The Great Debate (into which I refuse to be sucked).

Meanwhile the price remains virtually unchanged since yesterday... $746USD/$1006CAD.

Bitcoin soldiers onward.
legendary
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ViaBTC is attempt to keep price rise in check. ViaBTC wil adopt segwit or Core will raise to 2MB, when the big players are ready for the MOON. The algo won't be changed, that's FUD  Grin
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End of the world wall. Demon wars.

always like this on huobi

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