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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 18213. (Read 26623240 times)

legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I guess no one here is bothering to correlate the price swings with the wild fluctuations in hashrate.

Miners now playing with hashrate to induce volatility, lol.  Must mean there aren't any real traders in the market.


Yeah... go ahead and attempt to correlate price and hashrate, I doubt you are going to find much, if any correlation, and if you do, it may likely be called coincidence, rather than correlation.

Furthermore, you are back on this theme describing few traders, which has been one of your past themes, which remains a kind of ridiculousness that seems to be loosely correlated with facts.  

Sure trade volume remains fairly low in recent times which causes relatively easier abilities for any bigger players to manipulate BTC prices through trade, but those kind of facts are fairly unlikely to lead reasonable conspiracy inferences of miner manipulation..     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes    Tongue  It makes very little sense logically that miners are the actual supposed manipulators.

Actually JJG, the onus is on you to provide proof that Miners *aren't* manipulating the market, aka the actual market makers.

Prove it. With facts.  

I'll wait right here...   Roll Eyes

Actually, you are full of it.


I think that logically it should be fairly clear that you are the one who is making the extraordinary claim.

And, have you ever heard of the expression, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof"?

Whether you are being disingenuous, when you attempt to shift the burden onto me or you are dumb is a bit of a question.  At this point, I personally doubt that you are actually dumb, so it seems that it is more likely that you are being disingenuous with your nonsensical assertion that I have a burden to show that miners are not manipulating BTC prices, etc.

Also, in the end, to the extent that there is actual manipulation going on in the bitcoin space (prices specifically), does it really make much of a difference concerning what we are going to do based on who is doing it, and why?   

Regarding BTC prices, and our concerns about price directions, yeah, each of us are going to account for a variety of factors concerning how and when to allocate our investment into bitcoin, if at all.

Sure, reasons for price manipulation could matter in some kinds of outlier scenarios, but really these alleged specifics concerning attempting to identify sources of manipulation (specifically identifying miners) and to draw fringe conclusions seems to harp on pie in the sky fantasy land speculation and less probable scenarios rather than any kind of central material and important dynamic in bitcoin price dynamics that cannot be accommodated based on more important considerations.





legendary
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legendary
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When wallstreet ... validate the BTC buying on long term : https://twitter.com/BambouClub/status/786909432542138368

legendary
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Imo, purchasing a Trezor shoud be a obligation for every long-term bitcoiner.




Only me and bitcoin core can manage my private key ...
legendary
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It doesn't matter what the European Central Bank's stance on Bitcoin is. There aren't enough big exchanges in Europe to make any difference. There's only Bitstamp, and that's a shadow of its former self since the hack. The biggest USD exchange is still Bitfinex, and that doesn't care about the EU.

kraken? plenty of people use that too. plus bitcoin.de. plus bitonic. plus localbitcoins which is already gone in Germany because of regulations.

bitfinex seems very willing to bow to American state level legislation. if something European comes in then expect them to do the same.
sr. member
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why? the news is old. the measures for kyc/aml and so on are already in place and apply. and the only thing they're saying is that they don't want to promote it. seems like business as usual to me.

It doesn't matter what the European Central Bank's stance on Bitcoin is. There aren't enough big exchanges in Europe to make any difference. There's only Bitstamp, and that's a shadow of its former self since the hack. The biggest USD exchange is still Bitfinex, and that doesn't care about the EU.
legendary
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why? the news is old. the measures for kyc/aml and so on are already in place and apply. and the only thing they're saying is that they don't want to promote it. seems like business as usual to me.
legendary
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If that is the case some people were fooled to sell their bitcoins. Smart people are buying at every drop.
legendary
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I guess no one here is bothering to correlate the price swings with the wild fluctuations in hashrate.

Miners now playing with hashrate to induce volatility, lol.  Must mean there aren't any real traders in the market.


Yeah... go ahead and attempt to correlate price and hashrate, I doubt you are going to find much, if any correlation, and if you do, it may likely be called coincidence, rather than correlation.

Furthermore, you are back on this theme describing few traders, which has been one of your past themes, which remains a kind of ridiculousness that seems to be loosely correlated with facts.  

Sure trade volume remains fairly low in recent times which causes relatively easier abilities for any bigger players to manipulate BTC prices through trade, but those kind of facts are fairly unlikely to lead reasonable conspiracy inferences of miner manipulation..     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes    Tongue  It makes very little sense logically that miners are the actual supposed manipulators.

Actually JJG, the onus is on you to provide proof that Miners *aren't* manipulating the market, aka the actual market makers.

Prove it. With facts.  

I'll wait right here...   Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 11405
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I guess no one here is bothering to correlate the price swings with the wild fluctuations in hashrate.

Miners now playing with hashrate to induce volatility, lol.  Must mean there aren't any real traders in the market.


Yeah... go ahead and attempt to correlate price and hashrate, I doubt you are going to find much, if any correlation, and if you do, it may likely be called coincidence, rather than correlation.

Furthermore, you are back on this theme describing few traders, which has been one of your past themes, which remains a kind of ridiculousness that seems to be loosely correlated with facts. 

Sure trade volume remains fairly low in recent times which causes relatively easier abilities for any bigger players to manipulate BTC prices through trade, but those kind of facts are fairly unlikely to lead reasonable conspiracy inferences of miner manipulation..     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes    Tongue  It makes very little sense logically that miners are the actual supposed manipulators.
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Dipped a dime, I see... all the way down to $631 on Bitcoinaverage.

Overall, things are looking pretty good though.

legendary
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I guess no one here is bothering to correlate the price swings with the wild fluctuations in hashrate.

Miners now playing with hashrate to induce volatility, lol.  Must mean there aren't any real traders in the market.
ImI
legendary
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Just me or is the forum getting ddos?

someone seems stuck in spring 2013. "selloff" combined with ddos.
member
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legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
Price is down $8. All of Hillary's supporters must have sold their coins after she said she doesn't like the freedom part of Bitcoin.
legendary
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Just me or is the forum getting ddos?
legendary
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Bitstamp integrates Trezor  Cool

Imo, purchasing a Trezor shoud be a obligation for every long-term bitcoiner.

https://blog.trezor.io/bitstamp-and-trezor-partner-for-improved-bitcoin-security-and-user-experience-317d1523529a#.hy2zal2gv
legendary
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Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
The bitcoin price's started to going down. What do you think guys? This will continue till where?

at least double digits if not single in the worst case!  Cool
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