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legendary
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I guess no one here is bothering to correlate the price swings with the wild fluctuations in hashrate.

Miners now playing with hashrate to induce volatility, lol.  Must mean there aren't any real traders in the market.


Yeah... go ahead and attempt to correlate price and hashrate, I doubt you are going to find much, if any correlation, and if you do, it may likely be called coincidence, rather than correlation.

Furthermore, you are back on this theme describing few traders, which has been one of your past themes, which remains a kind of ridiculousness that seems to be loosely correlated with facts.  

Sure trade volume remains fairly low in recent times which causes relatively easier abilities for any bigger players to manipulate BTC prices through trade, but those kind of facts are fairly unlikely to lead reasonable conspiracy inferences of miner manipulation..     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes    Tongue  It makes very little sense logically that miners are the actual supposed manipulators.

Actually JJG, the onus is on you to provide proof that Miners *aren't* manipulating the market, aka the actual market makers.

Prove it. With facts.  

I'll wait right here...   Roll Eyes
legendary
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I guess no one here is bothering to correlate the price swings with the wild fluctuations in hashrate.

Miners now playing with hashrate to induce volatility, lol.  Must mean there aren't any real traders in the market.


Yeah... go ahead and attempt to correlate price and hashrate, I doubt you are going to find much, if any correlation, and if you do, it may likely be called coincidence, rather than correlation.

Furthermore, you are back on this theme describing few traders, which has been one of your past themes, which remains a kind of ridiculousness that seems to be loosely correlated with facts. 

Sure trade volume remains fairly low in recent times which causes relatively easier abilities for any bigger players to manipulate BTC prices through trade, but those kind of facts are fairly unlikely to lead reasonable conspiracy inferences of miner manipulation..     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes    Tongue  It makes very little sense logically that miners are the actual supposed manipulators.
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Dipped a dime, I see... all the way down to $631 on Bitcoinaverage.

Overall, things are looking pretty good though.

legendary
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I guess no one here is bothering to correlate the price swings with the wild fluctuations in hashrate.

Miners now playing with hashrate to induce volatility, lol.  Must mean there aren't any real traders in the market.
ImI
legendary
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Just me or is the forum getting ddos?

someone seems stuck in spring 2013. "selloff" combined with ddos.
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legendary
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Price is down $8. All of Hillary's supporters must have sold their coins after she said she doesn't like the freedom part of Bitcoin.
legendary
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Just me or is the forum getting ddos?
legendary
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Bitstamp integrates Trezor  Cool

Imo, purchasing a Trezor shoud be a obligation for every long-term bitcoiner.

https://blog.trezor.io/bitstamp-and-trezor-partner-for-improved-bitcoin-security-and-user-experience-317d1523529a#.hy2zal2gv
legendary
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The bitcoin price's started to going down. What do you think guys? This will continue till where?

at least double digits if not single in the worst case!  Cool
sr. member
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The bitcoin price's started to going down. What do you think guys? This will continue till where?
legendary
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I assume we can expect to see a fairly significant price increase when 0.13.1 is released. The same when LN is implemented.
legendary
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Yes, better to have him come back and defend his "nutty" theories rather than attempts by me to insufficiently summarize them in my favor.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
No offense JJG, but I don't think summarizing is your strong suit  Wink.
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legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

BTW where the hack is Adam ?  Banned again?

A few weeks ago, Adam told me that he had been locked out of this forum in about mid-September because a hacker took over his account. 

Then in spite of my attempts to persuade him to get his account back, he said that he did not want to go through the efforts, at least that was his then thinking from a few weeks ago...

But you may know Adam.. he can be a bit spontaneous and even equivocal, from time to time...  Cheesy Cheesy.

Ohh what a pitty. Maybe those efforts where restricted by 1MB and its gone...

 Grin


Sure, there are quite a few of us who would like to see some of the crazy ass (and sometimes quasi-delerious) posts of Adam in this thread, but the motivations for his behavior seems to defy logic sometimes too, including some of his recent alliances with big blocker nutty conspiracy theorists... hahahahaha...

Yes, better to have him come back and defend his "nutty" theories rather than attempts by me to insufficiently summarize them in my favor.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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legendary
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BTW where the hack is Adam ?  Banned again?

A few weeks ago, Adam told me that he had been locked out of this forum in about mid-September because a hacker took over his account. 

Then in spite of my attempts to persuade him to get his account back, he said that he did not want to go through the efforts, at least that was his then thinking from a few weeks ago...

But you may know Adam.. he can be a bit spontaneous and even equivocal, from time to time...  Cheesy Cheesy.

Ohh what a pitty. Maybe those efforts where restricted by 1MB and its gone...

 Grin
legendary
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You know none of this is going to matter anytime soon with ViaBTC + Ver and friends blocking SegWit and potentially hard forking with BU...

If Antpool joins ViaBTC and starts mining BU then you can say goodbye to this potential rally

ViaBTC will be out-hashed and joining the Segwitt wagon later on, i'm not getting to worried about that. Ver and friends cannot block it, they only have there opinion.

The most common opinion about those anti Segwitt, LN guys are; ''Bitcoin going mainstream we need 2 mb block''

So from 7tps to 14tps...do they really think that's is enough?  Shocked

No no no no! We need something like 1gig blocks to accomplish that.

hero member
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-at-a-crossroads-full-retrace-or-breakout-above-640

Finally, notice that we have a large OTE short zone just overhead between $660 – $710 so this is the region where we expect the next pause to take place if the bulls can push price over the $640 – $650 resistance area over the next few days. $680 – $700 seems like a reasonable upside target in case things do begin to move that way, while the triangle apex and primary volume profile PoC in the $580 – $600 area should act as a magnet if sellers begin to move in before price gets back above $640. I got this point
legendary
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Segwit is ready, preparing for launch!





The below linked article talks about November 15, 2016 as a tentative release date.


http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/10/18/bitcoin-core-segwit-ready/

0.13.1 will be release soon (1 to 2 weeks), that date is just one of the requirements that must be met before segwit activates.

RC1 will come out in a day or so oonce they go through the gitian process.

LN is coming around nicely where all the implementations have standardized Interoperability and Specifications for compatibility -
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/after-scaling-bitcoin-a-lightning-winter-release-is-now-within-reach-1476814566



You know none of this is going to matter anytime soon with ViaBTC + Ver and friends blocking SegWit and potentially hard forking with BU...

If Antpool joins ViaBTC and starts mining BU then you can say goodbye to this potential rally

It all matters.  Progress made here and there, bargaining and leverage and wait and see, progress, no progress,, and in the end, the various actions in the middle matter to get to whatever point we are going to get to.
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