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legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
seems like BTC prices are gonna have to go below $430 or even lower to put me back in the red

Don't think that's gonna happen. Congratulations. Sincerely.


Actually, we agree on something. 

I understand that anything is possible with bitcoin, but in recent months, there were already several fairly serious attempts at getting us below $430.. and there just seems to be an inability to inspire a sufficient number of folks to sell their BTC at those price levels. 

So, either we would need to receive some pretty convincing FUCD spreading, or some kind of large scale BTC related corruption, such as OK Coin running off with a million coins or some other very large BTC holder having sufficient balls to attempt such similar shenanigans... it's not out of the realm of possible scenarios to have something amazingly negative - but is a much less likely scenario.

Just a little bit about my buying coins for 2 years and then experiencing several of these upwards price movements in the past year, really, for about the past 8 months, I have been building up my BTC portfolio to be able to withstand large downward price corrections (20% or more), and certainly the last couple of upswings into the $470s has been very helpful in building up my BTC holdings in that regards....

I would not want to experience another 20% downward price correction, but it would be financially manageable for me within my BTC portfolio funds and even with a 20% downward correction, my BTC portfolio would still be in a much better position than it was during much of 2015 - especially it's status around January 2015 when we had gone down to the lower $200s and even below $200 for the first time during that particular bear cycle.
newbie
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Question: Anyone playing with Lisk? Might actually float up ~30% before heading back down, but what do I know...
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legendary
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Stamp is drunk as hell...
member
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“We were aiming towards the clouds, not on building a mediocre midsize business. We took the big investors and chances spirit. But it has not paid off.” -- Sam "King" Cole
https://youtu.be/yJxCdh1Ps48
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
seems like BTC prices are gonna have to go below $430 or even lower to put me back in the red

Don't think that's gonna happen. Congratulations. Sincerely.
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo

Yeah, you are right. I am just surprised (and a little bit annoyed) that this silly 470$ mark still keeps us back.

It's not actually $470 but it was 3000 yuan mark in China, which was close to 470 but changing due to the exchange rate ... and now it is $500 that it is eyeing, so we will set-up a foundation to have a run at that from here somewhere .... or a big wave of new fiat defects and it soon blows through on another $30 busting run higher.
newbie
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What am I looking at? BitTorrent traffic*? Which is not regulated and is perfectly legal? You're telling me that while internet traffic is increasing at exponential rate, the perfectly legal & unregulated BitTorrent traffic is also increasing, albeit at a much lower rate? This is, indeed, amazing Roll Eyes

P2P traffic. It is mostly a poke at your Gnutella chart,
Gnutella and Kad network are relatively novel
You give me e.g., I give you chart.

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as the preferred method of piracy has obviously shifted. If piracy is consuming a smaller percentage of global bandwidth, I'd suggest this is due to streaming services such as Netflix which reduce the incentive, rather than due to anti-P2P endeavours.
You give me an e.g. (file sharing), I explain to you that not only is file sharing legal, but despite of it being legal, it's still getting less popular.
And still you complain Sad

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Now you're starting to get it. And lower likelihood of getting paid lowers the profitability of your khrymez. Q.E.D., my rebellious friend Smiley

Banning ransom payments isn't going to work because enough people will pay to still make it a profitable venture. This is why it isn't good enough, beside the fact that you're criminalizing the victims who do pay, a fact exploitable by the still-not-discouraged hackers.
I have not suggested "Banning ransom payments," that was you. I did suggest that making beetcoin illegal would make it less attractive to ransomware scumbags disruptive beadcoin entrepreneurs who extort hospitals.
Because demanding to be paid in Bleetcoins would assure that the aforementioned paradigm-shifters will not get paid, making their douchebaggery objectively unprofitable, all for naught.
Q.E.D.
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Jeesh Roll Eyes
ImI
legendary
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Yeah, you are right. I am just surprised (and a little bit annoyed) that this silly 470$ mark still keeps us back.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

470$ seems to be too strong again.


You are still coming off as a kind of glass half empty sort of dude, and as if nothing is going to be enough for you. 

The fact of the matter is that we had a nice little 5% rally.

And, really, even if many of us pro BTC folks are BTC HODLers and accumulators and we are looking forward to a price explosion, it is not really healthy or even realistic to expect too much too soon.   If it happens it happens, and we can count our blessings, but we could be in this sub $500's price territory for several weeks, and the situation remains remarkably bullish... and should even be profitable for a large number of folks.

Yeah, there may be a large number of folks that still have average BTC prices between $600 and $800, or even higher, but the fact of the matter is that most of us (including you who has had an account here for more than 3 years) should realize that markets can remain irrational for a very long time.. and we gotta play the markets in order to better our position and actually rejoice that we had a 5% rally in the past 48 hours... which also coincides with nearly a 20% rally over the past couple of months and more than a 100% rally in the past 10 months.... Currently, we are in a good place in bitcoinlandia, even if BTC prices take another 2 years to upwardly explode (which really I don't think that such upward explosion is going to take 2 years, but we should be mentally prepared for such possibility because it could happen).
legendary
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In particular, we have identified seven causes for concern that can cause DAO participants to engage in strategic behaviors. Some of these behaviors can cause honest DAO investors to have their investments hijacked or committed to proposals against their interest and intent.

http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/27/dao-call-for-moratorium/

The dump that will commence soon on Polo is going to be epic. Always good for some extra BTC.
hero member
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Been down so god damn long.. that it looks like up to me...
legendary
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In particular, we have identified seven causes for concern that can cause DAO participants to engage in strategic behaviors. Some of these behaviors can cause honest DAO investors to have their investments hijacked or committed to proposals against their interest and intent.

http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/27/dao-call-for-moratorium/
legendary
Activity: 2842
Merit: 1511
What am I looking at? BitTorrent traffic*? Which is not regulated and is perfectly legal? You're telling me that while internet traffic is increasing at exponential rate, the perfectly legal & unregulated BitTorrent traffic is also increasing, albeit at a much lower rate? This is, indeed, amazing Roll Eyes

P2P traffic. It is mostly a poke at your Gnutella chart, as the preferred method of piracy has obviously shifted. If piracy is consuming a smaller percentage of global bandwidth, I'd suggest this is due to streaming services such as Netflix which reduce the incentive, rather than due to anti-P2P endeavours.

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Now you're starting to get it. And lower likelihood of getting paid lowers the profitability of your khrymez. Q.E.D., my rebellious friend Smiley

Banning ransom payments isn't going to work because enough people will pay to still make it a profitable venture. This is why it isn't good enough, beside the fact that you're criminalizing the victims who do pay, a fact exploitable by the still-not-discouraged hackers.
ImI
legendary
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470$ seems to be too strong again.
member
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"It can be phased in, like:

if (blocknumber > 115000)
    maxblocksize = largerlimit

It can start being in versions way ahead, so by the time it reaches that block number and goes into effect, the older versions that don't have it are already obsolete.

When we're near the cutoff block number, I can put an alert to old versions to make sure they know they have to upgrade."
- Craig Wright

I see what you did there.

Craig Wright's a ginormous block size proponent, he would have written something like the below quote, with the proviso that the blockchain moves to a private network for banks controlled solely by him.


"It can be phased in, like:

if (blocknumber > 115000)
    maxblocksize = 200GB

It can start being in versions way ahead, so by the time it reaches that block number and goes into effect, the older versions that don't have it are already obsolete.

When we're near the cutoff block number, I can put an alert to old versions to make sure they know they have to upgrade."
- Craig Wright
legendary
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"It can be phased in, like:

if (blocknumber > 115000)
    maxblocksize = largerlimit

It can start being in versions way ahead, so by the time it reaches that block number and goes into effect, the older versions that don't have it are already obsolete.

When we're near the cutoff block number, I can put an alert to old versions to make sure they know they have to upgrade."
- Craig Wright

I see what you did there.
newbie
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Question: Anyone playing with Lisk? Might actually float up ~30% before heading back down, but what do I know...
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legendary
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