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I checked out of curiosity, seems like their block explorer is full of mining and poloniex txs... so I don't think they are taking any load from BTC. Actually it wouldn't make any sense to do so as LTC, DASH and DOGE have more widespread adoption than ETH - they are the primary candidates for taking more txs.

Speculation and mining are the main economic activity of all coins, including BTC. A growth-capped BTC is good for all alts, I'm sure your DASH will have its day in the sun too. No need for concern, just keep supporting Blockstream, it'll happen.
But in bitcoin you can invest in a ponzi of every kind. You know, fun money.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz5TGN7eUcM




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I checked out of curiosity, seems like their block explorer is full of mining and poloniex txs... so I don't think they are taking any load from BTC. Actually it wouldn't make any sense to do so as LTC, DASH and DOGE have more widespread adoption than ETH - they are the primary candidates for taking more txs.

Speculation and mining are the main economic activity of all coins, including BTC. A growth-capped BTC is good for all alts, I'm sure your DASH will have its day in the sun too. No need for concern, just keep supporting Blockstream, it'll happen.
But in bitcoin you can invest in a ponzi of every kind. You know, fun money.


Bitcoin


Ether


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz5TGN7eUcM


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I checked out of curiosity, seems like their block explorer is full of mining and poloniex txs... so I don't think they are taking any load from BTC. Actually it wouldn't make any sense to do so as LTC, DASH and DOGE have more widespread adoption than ETH - they are the primary candidates for taking more txs.

Speculation and mining are the main economic activity of all coins, including BTC. A growth-capped BTC is good for all alts, I'm sure your DASH will have its day in the sun too. No need for concern, just keep supporting Blockstream, it'll happen.
But in bitcoin you can invest in a ponzi of every kind. You know, fun money.


Bitcoin


Ether


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz5TGN7eUcM
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I checked out of curiosity, seems like their block explorer is full of mining and poloniex txs... so I don't think they are taking any load from BTC. Actually it wouldn't make any sense to do so as LTC, DASH and DOGE have more widespread adoption than ETH - they are the primary candidates for taking more txs.

Speculation and mining are the main economic activity of all coins, including BTC. A growth-capped BTC is good for all alts, I'm sure your DASH will have its day in the sun too. No need for concern, just keep supporting Blockstream, it'll happen.
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I checked out of curiosity, seems like their block explorer is full of mining and poloniex txs... so I don't think they are taking any load from BTC. Actually it wouldn't make any sense to do so as LTC, DASH and DOGE have more widespread adoption than ETH - they are the primary candidates for taking more txs.

But we can still use Segwit on testnet, right?
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Sadly, it's not looking good for additional capacity in time for the halving. Shocker.

https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size?timespan=30days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

~0.6mb/block lately... median fees at 0.04$.

Business as usual.


Agreed, the relief valve working just fine.


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Agreed, the relief valve working just fine.



I checked out of curiosity, seems like their block explorer is full of mining and poloniex txs... so I don't think they are taking any load from BTC. Actually it wouldn't make any sense to do so as LTC, DASH and DOGE have more widespread adoption than ETH - they are the primary candidates for taking more txs.
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Sadly, it's not looking good for additional capacity in time for the halving. Shocker.

https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size?timespan=30days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

~0.6mb/block lately... median fees at 0.04$.

Business as usual.


Agreed, the relief valve working just fine.

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Probably means HF-trigger code (for next year activation), not HF.

Sadly, it's not looking good for additional capacity in time for the halving. Shocker.

https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size?timespan=30days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

~0.6mb/block lately... median fees at 0.04$.

Business as usual.
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no sigwit no pump ?  Shocked

SELL ?

My reading is that they won't activate segwit until there is a pull req for a hard fork.

Say the HF code comes out in July, miners then activate segwit, and the HF code is programmed to not activate until July 2017.

Sadly, it's not looking good for additional capacity in time for the halving. Shocker.
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no sigwit no pump ?  Shocked

SELL ?
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From Peter Todd's chinese AMA, https://www.bikeji.com/t/3831



So no segwit until HF code is released (Blockstream considers "released" a pull req, apparently). Wake me up in 14 months grentlement.

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So no segwit until HF code is released (Blockstream considers "released" a pull req, apparently). Wake me up in 14 months grentlement.


I think they might find themselves out in the cold if they fuck around for that long. That's just crazy.
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From Peter Todd's chinese AMA, https://www.bikeji.com/t/3831

Price forecast!


So no segwit until HF code is released (Blockstream considers "released" a pull req, apparently). Wake me up in 14 months grentlement.
So cheap coins for longer?

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I really like how some people is getting the real picture right, Chapeau !!
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From Peter Todd's chinese AMA, https://www.bikeji.com/t/3831



So no segwit until HF code is released (Blockstream considers "released" a pull req, apparently). Wake me up in 14 months grentlement.
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You are most welcome my new dear friend Tongue

I extremely enjoyed how deep into economics and math you are as well as your way of thinking.

Btw, I said earlier this exact same sentence (That is why i will retire at the age of 35-40, and they will work till their death Sad).

What do you think about triple digit BTC value, way too much or ?

I see here you perfectly elaborted what our dear centeral bank said Cheesy

All what you said, as usual, I agree upon but my mind is begging me to ask in order to get the complete picture.

1. Could you please elaborate more the last part starting with "IF" until "this is math after all".

2. I'm thinking about something else now, will it be that easy to reach $5K, $10K till $250K in terms of poltical intervention and policy makers, will goverments, banks etc. keep watching Bitcoin taking over easily ?

I'm convinced with what r0ach that central banks sooner or later will buy a lot of Bitcoins as Bank of Japan is doing.

Btw, today Japan surpassed US by being the 2nd largest Bitcoin market after China.

Won't Bitcoin get cracked, not a must it's encryption, I'm talking in general.

3. Forgot the price, lets say we are now in 2025 - 2030, describe Bitcoin the escosystem, assest, currency whatever.

Still, no "complete picture", i am just extrapolating from my own knowledge/experience. But, short "answers" (more like speculations):

1. While the invention, or, rather the realization of how to run a trustless recorded timestamp server through decentralized consensus through PoW aka blockchain already made it into the public, and proved to be the most resilient application run by more than 1 computer at the same time connected to the internet, "the Satoshi" only made a possibility, not a certainty, not a definitive. Alas, the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak. That, and Heisenberg (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle which, apparently seems to work in the macro world as well, see https://www.ted.com/talks/jim_al_khalili_how_quantum_biology_might_explain_life_s_biggest_questions), is why it is "IF", despite math. :-)

2. There is a great speech, i can't recall which one, from Andreas Antonopoulos, where he discusses this matter (find it on youtube, either Prague, or Zürich?). The leading sentence is: "i have seen no global governmental consensus on ANYTHING" (not even on climate change, despite it might kill us all, as he adds). Or, you can learn about what happened, when the politburo banned the holding and trading of USD in the Soviet Union in the 70/80s- hint, it became the no.1 bribing instrument for citizens:-)

3. That question alone would require, 600 pages, in a book (i am working on it :-D) ). After i have spent, like 2-3 nights, whisky, patience and curiosity - as many before me - that STEM knowledge is an exponential curve, and not since the 60's, but since BC. 500- alas. Hence, the probability to foresee anything tech related is bound to diminishing returns - an inverse exponential curve , means to predict the correct path to predict future improvements shrinks exponentially.

With this in my mind, if Bitcoin, the protocol is still up and running in just 5 years, say 2020-2021, it might already have so alien applications, like an additional layer, that none of us can think off right now, delivering such humongous utility to users, that would be laughed at today, but will worth enormous economic value per entry units (=btc). Just like it was unfathomable to say video conference for FREE, in 1992's internet. Bitcoin, the network is nothing more than internet, it is like permissionless, uncensorable packet transfer from A to B IP address , but this one is also a registering public ledger of packets going from A to B, so we can tie value, because everyone has to acknowledge that we "have" that value, by the mechanisms of the blockchain.



Well said my friend.

1. I see your answer here is confirming what you said earlier, "I've 0 doubts", me as well having 0 doubts that Bitcoin will succeed ? Oh wait, isn't Bitcoin already succeeded ?

As r0ach said, even if we are idiots, but are really people how poured millions of $$$ into Bitcoin either in terms of VC, building mining titans and such are idiots, I extremely doubt ?!!

2. I see what you want to say here is that the best solution for people who wants to Bitcoin is to try to create alternative or cope with it, right ? What about other stubborns ? Aren't you afraid from governments ? What if some countries started taking the same route Russia is taking ?

3. What are you afraid of the most that would stop Bitcoin to continue it's journey and be the Ultimate Bitcoin if I can say ?

what's wrong with this thread?

Further up there was a page of fruitful, interesting and polite conversation.

Am I on the wrong forum?


Admit buddy, isn't it better Wink

what's wrong with this thread?

Further up there was a page of fruitful, interesting and polite conversation.

Am I on the wrong forum?


Yeah, apparently now this is some kind of biology forum. I expect cytoarchitectonics to be explained next.

You always let me rofl hard man, you've an awesome sense of humor Cheesy Cheesy Grin

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-national-debt-strategy/index.html

Trump: U.S. will never default 'because you print the money'

If he becomes president this could get really "funny".In that case I advise to buy moaaar bitcoins!!


If Trump become the President, the Bitcoin price will Skyrocket, starting the Mexico-US remittance issue Wink
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you know,  I'm starting to come to terms with the social proposals various candidates are throwing out there.  It seems the U.S. will be fucked anyway,  so why not get medical care,  college,  other stuff as an entitlement?

If you don't like taxes,  then you don't have to work - let someone else pay your bill - or double all salaries and tax at 50%  who the fuck knows

I don't have any answers either



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