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Yeah, but if you believe that kind of narrowly summarizing of a situation, resistance is not just about "Blockstream and their investors."

Segwit adds all kind of functionality to bitcoin that is nearly unanimously agreed upon to be a good thing.

Some suggest that Segwit is too complicated.. .blah blah blah.. but in the end, the whole of bitcoin is complicated, and the large amount of agreement from technical people in bitcoin really seem to have consensus around the fact that segwit brings way more advantages than it does disadvantages, and overall it is a good thing for the whole ecosphere of bitcoin, whether that ecosphere be supported by blockstream or some other centralized entities.

At this point, I don't see any need for core supporters to compromise regarding some blanket and/or immediate increase of the blocksize from 1mb to 2MB when it is not needed (that is it is not needed at this point and immediately).
 
Segwit is in the works and is very imminent to being implemented, and even if Segwit does not completely resolve the scaling issue, there seems to be some justification that there will be some need to see and experience how Segwit plays out before implementing any immediate 2mb increase.  Further, such 2mb increase could be implemented on top of seg wit or even possibly implemented on an emergency basis, if such an immediate increase were to be needed, which it is not.

From what I have been reading in some of these various blocksize discussions, a very large majority of persons whether "small blockers" or not, agree that at some time in the fairly near future there will be a need for some kind of increase in the blocksize, which 2mb seems to be fairly reasonable and agreeable amount, even though it does not seem to be necessary at this particular moment and may possibly not be needed for another year or more.

In this regard, even though classic is frequently presented as only addressing the blocksize issue (doubling), it is also conceded to change governance as well.... which seems to have a lot of baggage that it going to cause resistance and stubbornness when attempting to implement that kind of stuff.

yeah it's all just a big "governance" issue   ... you're certainly right on with the party spiel of MIT/govt Forde and Gavin ... except it's not, its actually real technical problems that are being solved (not by the likes of you)

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/epicenter-bitcoin-117-eric-lombrozo-upgrading-bitcoin-with-segregated-witness

the kiddiefight has all been in here and on reddit ... if you followed the actual dev forums it's all quite sanguine, which makes Gavin Hearns and now Jeff's blog outbursts all the more surprising, like intentional "playing to the mob" ... who are they trying to convince, certainly not other devs.

Classic wouldn't exist if there weren't already serious internal governance issues in Core.


See above.


That would seem to be a perfectly reasonable course of action and easily secure a future in which Core remains the "reference" implementation. If Core had announced plans after Scaling HK for a 2MB HF followed by a fully tested segwit (with plenty of time for 3rd parties to accommodate it)... we wouldn't be having this debate.

Given all this, one has to wonder if gmax and his clique of wizards are dogmatically putting ego (and stock options?) before Bitcoin.  

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How's about Ethering the cash to pre fund the removal of some Indian sap's kidney and then they get the rest when it's safely installed in grandma back in the good old US?

I was hoping for something that didn't involve drugs or gambling.

I constantly hear people say anything other than Core is bad news for Blockstream and their investors. 

Here's a decent example from the new Princeton textbook.

Suppose Alice wants to challenge Bob to game of chess with money on-line. Alice will write an Ethereum program that implemements the rules of chess and upload it to Ethereum. She'll send the contract a quantity of Ether equal to the amount she wants to bet. Bob can see this, and if he decides to accept, he can start the game by sending his own stake of betting Ethers to the contract. The contract will then pay the winner.

Ya, well, stop it. It's freaking me out!

yes, but meanwhile this thing has become a matter of pride and kiddiefight. especially gmax and luke seem very hesitant in doing any compromise. jonas schnelli on the other side already signaled being able to update to 2MB.

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Maybe it's the weed, but this was a fun read!

What about the internal governance issues in Classic?


Isn't there some resistance to classic by core because there are changes to internal governance?


So in other words, Core could adopt the 2mb aspect of Classic without changes to internal governance (if it wants to continue to shun classic), no?

Oh shit!!!!!!



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