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legendary
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Wouldn't LTC be the gold standard (since everyone uses it)?

No because it is understood that in the long run, the increased use means a coin with a very bloated blockchain that will become increasingly difficult to transact with, or have a properly syncing wallet.
The idea of disposable blockchains / altcoins, that serve a role for some time and then die, should not be ruled out if scaling issues with bitcoin make tx spillover into altcoins.
It's understood? By whom? Are you suggesting that a coin that can both handle a large number of transactions and not be a throwaway is fundamentally impossible?
If not, why won't one get developed & superseded BTC?

I mean if we get to the point where people start transacting with other chains instead of BTC, so other chains will get the problem that BTC will be avoiding. Yes, at that point, it will be "understood" that this is so.

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Do you expect this to remain the case when shitcoins are actually useful for more than ...trading for other coins on exchanges?

Yes, because that won't affect the price day to day. It will be a low price, a low marketcap, but it will be ok for transactions, or pulling money once a day or week. Just not long-term storage of wealth.

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Presumably if you can buy BTC, you can also buy USD, no?

If you live in a weird country, you can buy btc out of a kid that has been mining shitcoins with his GPU. You can buy dollars from the bank - if the government allows you, and in countries with currency restrictions, this won't be possible at all. So buying BTC could be far easier than buying USD, withour reverting to the black market and paying a very high premium.

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Even if this takes the roundabout way of doing it -- your money => BTC => USD through an exchange? So you can use BTC as you suggest alts should be used -- for moving your (presumably highly volatile) native currency into real money -- USD.

Theoretically, yes, if you have BTC it's easier to go to USD. However, you can't do much with the USDs in your bank account. They are presumably there, but if you go to the ATM and click withdraw, you'll get local currency at the running conversion rate.

A country will typically allow inflow of currency into USD bank accounts, allow you to hold there your incoming wires and stuff, but what you see as 1000$ in there, isn't actually there. These USD are used by the government as "foreign currency reserves". If you want them in your hand, they won't give it to you - you'll get the local currency equivalent, at the running conversion rate. What you get instead, is a digital number in your bank account (1000$) and that's it.

The obligations of countries to pay back the foreign currency to the foreign currency account holders has a history of not getting honored, as various countries spend their foreign currency reserves and then forcibly convert USD accounts to local currency. You never got to get them in your hand in the first place, but then even the digital 1000$ are converted to local fiat.
legendary
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i honestly admit that my eys have some difficulties reading charts with prices in the fourhundreds. i´m so fuckin used to seeing prices in the twohundreds, i think my receptors got burned or something  Cool
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Dat pump


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hero member
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legendary
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i loooove coming here and having people to share the euphoria with.

i know no one irl who gives a flying shit about bitcoin.

i'm all "isn't it great?!?"

one friend has been saying the following phrase to me since january 2013:

"i really need to get some bitcoins"

I have a friend saying the same fucking shit: "I will buy bitcoins, wait for me, sure the next month" Since January 2013 LOL.
legendary
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i loooove coming here and having people to share the euphoria with.

i know no one irl who gives a flying shit about bitcoin.

i'm all "isn't it great?!?"

one friend has been saying the following phrase to me since january 2013:

"i really need to get some bitcoins"
legendary
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Ahh just like good old times  Grin

opens laptop: check
opens bitcoinwisdom: check
sees price, thinks: ...wow! just like the good times: check
opens bitcointalk: sees your post

 Cheesy
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Lets do $500 today i say  Cool
legendary
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legendary
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In order to dump coins one must have coins
Ahh just like good old times  Grin
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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Yeah, supposedly a few cents for disk space and bandwidth will drive people away from having full nodes but they'll be wanting to keep them around for settling up with their off-chain transaction handler once per month.

I'm not convinced the majority of Bitcoin users would be running full nodes even if the resource cost were 0. It's just not worth the hassle for most, unless the userbase consisted almost solely of idealistic cypherpunks.
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satoshi at vistomail.com satoshi at vistomail.com
Thu Dec 10 06:54:46 UTC 2015

[bitcoin-dev] Not this again.
I am not Craig Wright. We are all Satoshi.

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011936.html

Grin
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On a scale of "Sun" to "Alpha Centauri", where is BTC going after it passes/passed the moon?  In 2013, it used to be "oort cloud".
legendary
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legendary
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Clueless!
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