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Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 06:35:34 AM

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Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 06:08:21 AM

... if you are a big fish, there is always bitcoin-otc, wot and other 'safe' measures to get some (whilst you can) Cheesy

And also that huge US Marshalls auction coming up...

hmyea no. i wouldnt touch these FBI tainted coins even if they'd be sold half the price for.

Because bitcoin not fungible Sad

because most (smart) people just hold Wink

When you say 'smart,' do you mean 'desperately lying to unload worthless bag, not even caring who they hurt,' or 'stark-raving mad'?

Quote from: Elwar on October 15, 2015, 06:41:49 AM

... I actually wouldn't be surprised if OpenBazaar is used by some people as an exchange. Come to think of it...maybe I need to work on an "exchange store" on there...

So many wonderful ways to launder money with bitcoin, surprised it's not catching on...

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Cheers everybody we just hit the $260.
Edit: Damn that was fast, straight $5 drop to $255 now.

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Quote from: nioc on October 15, 2015, 06:37:13 AM

Quote from: Elwar on October 15, 2015, 06:26:19 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 15, 2015, 05:50:43 AM

Quote from: poncho32 on October 15, 2015, 05:32:07 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 04:43:58 AM

Quote from: Lauda on October 15, 2015, 03:51:44 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 02:31:37 AM

well, they had plenty of time already to acquire 'institutional' clients, since it is not because the website launches that they did not prepared upstream for important users to use the platform, even before any public launch.. anyway.

agree that interesting times lies ahead.

i get this feeling the rest of the financial world, as it obsessively misdirect people into 'blockchain technology' propaganda, is on the edge here and things are accelerating somehow as the end of the year approaches. will their status quo stand a couple more year? hard to say.

I was actually talking about the exchange itself. It takes time to accumulate volume and for the service to mature. I'm just hoping that there are no errors or bugs that would harm them so early. Besides, you have to remember the amount of time it takes to verify an account and transfer money to the exchange.

It would be nice if the price went up even higher.

The absurd "Regulated Exchange" era of Bitcoin is nothing more than a millimetre thin geologic layer in the advance towards domination.

Bitcoin price will surge at some point, and neither regulations, institutions, governance or whatever other deluded mass-marketed socialist businesses will have anything to do with it, ever.

A decentralized exchange could do more for Bitcoin than a regulated exchange. I'd rather use a decentralized exchange and trust nobody with my Bitcoins than use some regulated exchange that requires KYC, fingerprint samples, blood samples, and an iris scan just to register. There are masses of people who don't trust the unregulated exchanges, but don't want to go through KYC to use fully regulated ones.

Can someone remind me, how is fiat dealt with on a decentralized exchange?

Maybe it would be like localbitcoins or bitquick, but without the centralized website.

Have not followed the decentralized exchange topics though.

bitquick no longer takes customers from NY Tongue

That's because they're a centralized entity subject to NY laws. A decentralized computer program would not have that problem.

Edit: I actually wouldn't be surprised if OpenBazaar is used by some people as an exchange. Come to think of it...maybe I need to work on an "exchange store" on there...

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Quote from: Elwar on October 15, 2015, 06:26:19 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 15, 2015, 05:50:43 AM

Quote from: poncho32 on October 15, 2015, 05:32:07 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 04:43:58 AM

Quote from: Lauda on October 15, 2015, 03:51:44 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 02:31:37 AM

well, they had plenty of time already to acquire 'institutional' clients, since it is not because the website launches that they did not prepared upstream for important users to use the platform, even before any public launch.. anyway.

agree that interesting times lies ahead.

i get this feeling the rest of the financial world, as it obsessively misdirect people into 'blockchain technology' propaganda, is on the edge here and things are accelerating somehow as the end of the year approaches. will their status quo stand a couple more year? hard to say.

I was actually talking about the exchange itself. It takes time to accumulate volume and for the service to mature. I'm just hoping that there are no errors or bugs that would harm them so early. Besides, you have to remember the amount of time it takes to verify an account and transfer money to the exchange.

It would be nice if the price went up even higher.

The absurd "Regulated Exchange" era of Bitcoin is nothing more than a millimetre thin geologic layer in the advance towards domination.

Bitcoin price will surge at some point, and neither regulations, institutions, governance or whatever other deluded mass-marketed socialist businesses will have anything to do with it, ever.

A decentralized exchange could do more for Bitcoin than a regulated exchange. I'd rather use a decentralized exchange and trust nobody with my Bitcoins than use some regulated exchange that requires KYC, fingerprint samples, blood samples, and an iris scan just to register. There are masses of people who don't trust the unregulated exchanges, but don't want to go through KYC to use fully regulated ones.

Can someone remind me, how is fiat dealt with on a decentralized exchange?

Maybe it would be like localbitcoins or bitquick, but without the centralized website.

Have not followed the decentralized exchange topics though.

bitquick no longer takes customers from NY Tongue

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Quote from: yolalanda on October 15, 2015, 06:33:38 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 06:30:45 AM

Quote from: yolalanda on October 15, 2015, 06:28:07 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 06:08:21 AM

... if you are a big fish, there is always bitcoin-otc, wot and other 'safe' measures to get some (whilst you can) Cheesy

And also that huge US Marshalls auction coming up...

hmyea no. i wouldnt touch these FBI tainted coins even if they'd be sold half the price for.

Because bitcoin not fungible Sad

because most (smart) people just hold Wink

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Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 06:30:45 AM

Quote from: yolalanda on October 15, 2015, 06:28:07 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 06:08:21 AM

... if you are a big fish, there is always bitcoin-otc, wot and other 'safe' measures to get some (whilst you can) Cheesy

And also that huge US Marshalls auction coming up...

hmyea no. i wouldnt touch these FBI tainted coins even if they'd be sold half the price for.

Because bitcoin not fungible Sad

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Quote from: yolalanda on October 15, 2015, 06:28:07 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 06:08:21 AM

... if you are a big fish, there is always bitcoin-otc, wot and other 'safe' measures to get some (whilst you can) Cheesy

And also that huge US Marshalls auction coming up...

hmyea no. i wouldnt touch these FBI tainted coins even if they'd be sold half the price for.

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Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 06:08:21 AM

... if you are a big fish, there is always bitcoin-otc, wot and other 'safe' measures to get some (whilst you can) Cheesy

And also that huge US Marshalls auction coming up...

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 15, 2015, 05:50:43 AM

Quote from: poncho32 on October 15, 2015, 05:32:07 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 04:43:58 AM

Quote from: Lauda on October 15, 2015, 03:51:44 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 02:31:37 AM

well, they had plenty of time already to acquire 'institutional' clients, since it is not because the website launches that they did not prepared upstream for important users to use the platform, even before any public launch.. anyway.

agree that interesting times lies ahead.

i get this feeling the rest of the financial world, as it obsessively misdirect people into 'blockchain technology' propaganda, is on the edge here and things are accelerating somehow as the end of the year approaches. will their status quo stand a couple more year? hard to say.

I was actually talking about the exchange itself. It takes time to accumulate volume and for the service to mature. I'm just hoping that there are no errors or bugs that would harm them so early. Besides, you have to remember the amount of time it takes to verify an account and transfer money to the exchange.

It would be nice if the price went up even higher.

The absurd "Regulated Exchange" era of Bitcoin is nothing more than a millimetre thin geologic layer in the advance towards domination.

Bitcoin price will surge at some point, and neither regulations, institutions, governance or whatever other deluded mass-marketed socialist businesses will have anything to do with it, ever.

A decentralized exchange could do more for Bitcoin than a regulated exchange. I'd rather use a decentralized exchange and trust nobody with my Bitcoins than use some regulated exchange that requires KYC, fingerprint samples, blood samples, and an iris scan just to register. There are masses of people who don't trust the unregulated exchanges, but don't want to go through KYC to use fully regulated ones.

Can someone remind me, how is fiat dealt with on a decentralized exchange?

Maybe it would be like localbitcoins or bitquick, but without the centralized website.

Have not followed the decentralized exchange topics though.

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Quote from: yolalanda on October 15, 2015, 05:59:12 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 05:54:37 AM

+bitcoin ATMs poping up everywhere like shrooms in autumn.

Like shrooms that try to viciously rape you, that is. Have you seen the fees?

their blessed of a ~~local~~ decentralized service is sustainable this way, so it is good enough for me.

+ any local fiat exchange sets higher fees due to the immediate service they operate.

bitcoin is precious.

its price derived from top 5 bitcoin centralized exchanges is mostly IOUs within their offchain records until you withdraw them. + there is always the risk of being GOXed, marked by Govs, etc..

also imho the price these centralized internet exchanges (conflated with insider trading and robots) set is irrelevant considering the low volume ( https://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h ) compared with 13M bitcoins actually in circulation.

if you are a big fish, there is always bitcoin-otc, wot and other 'safe' measures to get some (whilst you can) Cheesy

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Decentralize crosschain exchange with all coins, use bitcoin as reserve currency and burn all the worthless toilet paper money.

Then use only crypto for everything, all the world problems solved, i hope some day that will happen, the faster the better for humanity.

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Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 05:54:37 AM

+bitcoin ATMs poping up everywhere like shrooms in autumn.

Like shrooms that try to viciously rape you, that is. Have you seen the fees?

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Quote from: poncho32 on October 15, 2015, 05:32:07 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 04:43:58 AM

Quote from: Lauda on October 15, 2015, 03:51:44 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 02:31:37 AM

well, they had plenty of time already to acquire 'institutional' clients, since it is not because the website launches that they did not prepared upstream for important users to use the platform, even before any public launch.. anyway.

agree that interesting times lies ahead.

i get this feeling the rest of the financial world, as it obsessively misdirect people into 'blockchain technology' propaganda, is on the edge here and things are accelerating somehow as the end of the year approaches. will their status quo stand a couple more year? hard to say.

I was actually talking about the exchange itself. It takes time to accumulate volume and for the service to mature. I'm just hoping that there are no errors or bugs that would harm them so early. Besides, you have to remember the amount of time it takes to verify an account and transfer money to the exchange.

It would be nice if the price went up even higher.

The absurd "Regulated Exchange" era of Bitcoin is nothing more than a millimetre thin geologic layer in the advance towards domination.

Bitcoin price will surge at some point, and neither regulations, institutions, governance or whatever other deluded mass-marketed socialist businesses will have anything to do with it, ever.

A decentralized exchange could do more for Bitcoin than a regulated exchange. I'd rather use a decentralized exchange and trust nobody with my Bitcoins than use some regulated exchange that requires KYC, fingerprint samples, blood samples, and an iris scan just to register. There are masses of people who don't trust the unregulated exchanges, but don't want to go through KYC to use fully regulated ones.

decentralized exchange sorta already exist, it is called localbitcoin..

+bitcoin ATMs poping up everywhere like shrooms in autumn.

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on October 15, 2015, 05:50:43 AM

Can someone remind me, how is fiat dealt with on a decentralized exchange?

Who needs stinking fiat anyway? Lrn 2 think outside the box, man!

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Quote from: poncho32 on October 15, 2015, 05:32:07 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 04:43:58 AM

Quote from: Lauda on October 15, 2015, 03:51:44 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 02:31:37 AM

well, they had plenty of time already to acquire 'institutional' clients, since it is not because the website launches that they did not prepared upstream for important users to use the platform, even before any public launch.. anyway.

agree that interesting times lies ahead.

i get this feeling the rest of the financial world, as it obsessively misdirect people into 'blockchain technology' propaganda, is on the edge here and things are accelerating somehow as the end of the year approaches. will their status quo stand a couple more year? hard to say.

I was actually talking about the exchange itself. It takes time to accumulate volume and for the service to mature. I'm just hoping that there are no errors or bugs that would harm them so early. Besides, you have to remember the amount of time it takes to verify an account and transfer money to the exchange.

It would be nice if the price went up even higher.

The absurd "Regulated Exchange" era of Bitcoin is nothing more than a millimetre thin geologic layer in the advance towards domination.

Bitcoin price will surge at some point, and neither regulations, institutions, governance or whatever other deluded mass-marketed socialist businesses will have anything to do with it, ever.

A decentralized exchange could do more for Bitcoin than a regulated exchange. I'd rather use a decentralized exchange and trust nobody with my Bitcoins than use some regulated exchange that requires KYC, fingerprint samples, blood samples, and an iris scan just to register. There are masses of people who don't trust the unregulated exchanges, but don't want to go through KYC to use fully regulated ones.

Can someone remind me, how is fiat dealt with on a decentralized exchange?

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$300+ is unlikely right now. Maybe after the last USMS auction.

Ah yes, I almost forgot about that. I wonder at what price it will get sold. This can have a nice effect because Bitcoin will be in the mainstream media again. I'm not talking above $300 at the moment. Another 5-10$ over the next few days would be nice.

Quote from: poncho32 on October 15, 2015, 05:32:07 AM

A decentralized exchange could do more for Bitcoin than a regulated exchange. I'd rather use a decentralized exchange and trust nobody with my Bitcoins than use some regulated exchange that requires KYC, fingerprint samples, blood samples, and an iris scan just to register. There are masses of people who don't trust the unregulated exchanges, but don't want to go through KYC to use fully regulated ones.

Yes, but what can you do? Unless we had our own (and legal//not made up) country where we would start up such a exchange and whatnot we can't do much (even then others might impose restrictions on it and such). It is what it is. Luckily if you want to avoid everything you can always change to cash.

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Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 04:43:58 AM

Quote from: Lauda on October 15, 2015, 03:51:44 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 02:31:37 AM

well, they had plenty of time already to acquire 'institutional' clients, since it is not because the website launches that they did not prepared upstream for important users to use the platform, even before any public launch.. anyway.

agree that interesting times lies ahead.

i get this feeling the rest of the financial world, as it obsessively misdirect people into 'blockchain technology' propaganda, is on the edge here and things are accelerating somehow as the end of the year approaches. will their status quo stand a couple more year? hard to say.

I was actually talking about the exchange itself. It takes time to accumulate volume and for the service to mature. I'm just hoping that there are no errors or bugs that would harm them so early. Besides, you have to remember the amount of time it takes to verify an account and transfer money to the exchange.

It would be nice if the price went up even higher.

The absurd "Regulated Exchange" era of Bitcoin is nothing more than a millimetre thin geologic layer in the advance towards domination.

Bitcoin price will surge at some point, and neither regulations, institutions, governance or whatever other deluded mass-marketed socialist businesses will have anything to do with it, ever.

A decentralized exchange could do more for Bitcoin than a regulated exchange. I'd rather use a decentralized exchange and trust nobody with my Bitcoins than use some regulated exchange that requires KYC, fingerprint samples, blood samples, and an iris scan just to register. There are masses of people who don't trust the unregulated exchanges, but don't want to go through KYC to use fully regulated ones.

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Quote from: hdbuck on October 15, 2015, 04:47:28 AM

Quote from: 8up on October 15, 2015, 04:45:24 AM

bullish?

also, patient. Cool

great to hear. these days smell a lot like like spring awakening. but the winter is still capable of fighting back at least one last time.

i'm patient as well. Wink

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