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legendary
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All the technicals point to more down.

No they don't. Oscillators and RSI are way oversold on large timeframes. Maybe we'll get a retest of lows, but it'll probably be a higher low.

When you get climactic action to the downside like this and the bars close way above the lows, that means the market found high quality buying at that level and is an indication of strength. Market weakness is found on green bars near the tops of rallies, where the volume either trails off or you get high volume on narrow bars (evidence of high volume selling entering). That's when you short--not here after climactic action to the downside which removes all the selling.




"Maybe we'll get a retest of lows, but it'll probably be a higher low."

So down then.

Depends what time frames your looking at completely. Weekly MACD is about to turn down.

We shall see, still $25 million in longs on BFX, LOL and that's after being told for the last 3 months that $30 million in longs was okay.

Standard triangle consolidation is occurring at the moment and I would seriously not be surprised to see it break out again to the downside. Where did all the bids go on Bitfinex? This could get so so ugly, where is everyone long on Finex going to close into?!

We shall see, its all speculation but there could still easily be a complete wipe out of those longs before we go anywhere.


I completely agree with user bassclef.


Of course you do, you're long. You also thought $255 was going to hold

But 4 million of those were opened during and after the crash. And the other 21 million obviously didn't fold even at $162.
legendary
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I'm not sure that block is really an XT block.  It was mined by Slush pool, which is still creating all version 3 blocks.  That particular block has a bizarre version field for some reason.



It is an XT block. Sadly. Slush confirmed it, saying they allowing miners to choose and using v3 for core blocks and 536870919 for XT blocks.

Version: 536870919(10) = 0x20000007 (hex)

Edit: Sorry, someone on reddit said that, not Slush. https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3hhbm5/first_mined_xt_block_370434/

Ok, I see now.  Slush is allowing individual stratum miners to support XT by mining to a specific port (3301 instead of 3333), and XT does, indeed, use that rather odd number for the version.  I stand corrected.

https://www.facebook.com/MiningBitcoinCz?fref=nf

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All the technicals point to more down.

No they don't. Oscillators and RSI are way oversold on large timeframes. Maybe we'll get a retest of lows, but it'll probably be a higher low.

When you get climactic action to the downside like this and the bars close way above the lows, that means the market found high quality buying at that level and is an indication of strength. Market weakness is found on green bars near the tops of rallies, where the volume either trails off or you get high volume on narrow bars (evidence of high volume selling entering). That's when you short--not here after climactic action to the downside which removes all the selling.




"Maybe we'll get a retest of lows, but it'll probably be a higher low."

So down then.

Depends what time frames your looking at completely. Weekly MACD is about to turn down.

We shall see, still $25 million in longs on BFX, LOL and that's after being told for the last 3 months that $30 million in longs was okay.

Standard triangle consolidation is occurring at the moment and I would seriously not be surprised to see it break out again to the downside. Where did all the bids go on Bitfinex? This could get so so ugly, where is everyone long on Finex going to close into?!

We shall see, its all speculation but there could still easily be a complete wipe out of those longs before we go anywhere.


I completely agree with user bassclef.


Of course you do, you're long. You also thought $255 was going to hold
hero member
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I completely agree with user bassclef.

This is a good time to buy in my opinion.  I have seen these exact same events many times before.
legendary
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There is no need for bigger block size. There is no need to increase the size of blocks every time we get near the limit. There is no need for free money transfers for everyone. Everything that is free for the users but not free for the manufacturers will be abused in every possible way. That is a basic rule for every economy!!! Blockchain will be cluttered with spam and bitcoin will become worthless. Everyone should get accustomed to the idea that they have to compete with higher fees to get included in a block. XT altcoin gives no solution to this at all. It just kicks the can down the road in the most irresponsible way!

That is absolutely your opinion and you're entitled to it. Other people feel differently. Fortunately, the Bitcoin protocol provides for a way for such differences to be settled that really doesn't call for lies, personal attacks and much of the other stuff that has been going on.
legendary
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So...I heard...bottom, again? Cheesy

You guys mean THE BOTTOM....or as always one of those bottoms till there's coming the next bottom?  Cheesy

?

$220 has been the bottom since January. If all the exchanges creep below $210 then.... The Dump3er will become a beautiful butterfly.

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All the technicals point to more down.

No they don't. Oscillators and RSI are way oversold on large timeframes. Maybe we'll get a retest of lows, but it'll probably be a higher low.

When you get climactic action to the downside like this and the bars close way above the lows, that means the market found high quality buying at that level and is an indication of strength. Market weakness is found on green bars near the tops of rallies, where the volume either trails off or you get high volume on narrow bars (evidence of high volume selling entering). That's when you short--not here after climactic action to the downside which removes all the selling.



hero member
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So...I heard...bottom, again? Cheesy

You guys mean THE BOTTOM....or as always one of those bottoms till there's coming the next bottom?  Cheesy
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So hands up. Whos seriously buying at this level? (As a trader, not as a long term purchase).

All the technicals point to more down.

To be honest we're lucky that China held up so well while all the fishyness was going on over at Bitfinex.

Oh also congrats everyone who longed the Euro pre FOMC meeting.
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Would absolutely love for the core dev team to get on-board with bigger blocks and I'm sure most other people would too. Now that their bluff has been called, maybe we'll see them implement something.
There is no need for bigger block size. There is no need to increase the size of blocks every time we get near the limit. There is no need for free money transfers for everyone. Everything that is free for the users but not free for the manufacturers will be abused in every possible way. That is a basic rule for every economy!!! Blockchain will be cluttered with spam and bitcoin will become worthless. Everyone should get accustomed to the idea that they have to compete with higher fees to get included in a block. XT altcoin gives no solution to this at all. It just kicks the can down the road in the most irresponsible way!

So want a bitcoin only for those rich enough to be able to get their tx's on the chain? How libertarian. Such altruism.

You are a perfect fit for the blockstream dream of a bitcoin solely accessible from a private sidechain. No direct access to the non-monied proletariat. I think that is a seismic shift from satoshis original plan. How do you reconcile that?

it's to early to decide a grow of the blocklimit. in the future the block reward will decrease and the fees have to increase. thats the vision of satoshi. but we have to handle it with calm.

What do you think will happen to the millions of lost bitcoins ?



You're wrong

https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
legendary
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it's to early to decide a grow of the blocklimit.

Right on.  Should wait until there's a catastrophic backlog, and then start thinking about what to do about it & trying to reach a consensus.

go ahead to increase the backlog.  Grin

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/coinwallet-plans-stress-test-bitcoin-make-case-larger-block-size/
sr. member
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3200 BTC on Stamp to get through to get back to 250.

Just a little more consolidation in the 230s before an explosion higher once people realize the crash has happened so it's time to load back up.
sr. member
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Would absolutely love for the core dev team to get on-board with bigger blocks and I'm sure most other people would too. Now that their bluff has been called, maybe we'll see them implement something.
There is no need for bigger block size. There is no need to increase the size of blocks every time we get near the limit. There is no need for free money transfers for everyone. Everything that is free for the users but not free for the manufacturers will be abused in every possible way. That is a basic rule for every economy!!! Blockchain will be cluttered with spam and bitcoin will become worthless. Everyone should get accustomed to the idea that they have to compete with higher fees to get included in a block. XT altcoin gives no solution to this at all. It just kicks the can down the road in the most irresponsible way!

BitcoinBlockstream Edition AKA Bitcoin Core will have to rely on the lightening network of some sorts, which will

1) centralize massively
2) take away miners fee, so no incentive for miners

Eventual dead of BitcoinBlockstream Edition AKA Bitcoin Core

Dev's powered by Blockstream are the ones out for self enrichment, slowly killing Bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 2856
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Would absolutely love for the core dev team to get on-board with bigger blocks and I'm sure most other people would too. Now that their bluff has been called, maybe we'll see them implement something.
There is no need for bigger block size. There is no need to increase the size of blocks every time we get near the limit. There is no need for free money transfers for everyone. Everything that is free for the users but not free for the manufacturers will be abused in every possible way. That is a basic rule for every economy!!! Blockchain will be cluttered with spam and bitcoin will become worthless. Everyone should get accustomed to the idea that they have to compete with higher fees to get included in a block. XT altcoin gives no solution to this at all. It just kicks the can down the road in the most irresponsible way!

So want a bitcoin only for those rich enough to be able to get their tx's on the chain? How libertarian. Such altruism.

You are a perfect fit for the blockstream dream of a bitcoin solely accessible from a private sidechain. No direct access to the non-monied proletariat. I think that is a seismic shift from satoshis original plan. How do you reconcile that?

it's to early to decide a grow of the blocklimit. in the future the block reward will decrease and the fees have to increase. thats the vision of satoshi. but we have to handle it with calm.

What do you think will happen to the millions of lost bitcoins ?

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