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people that did not see this casual pump&dump pattern and thus did not take the opportunity to maximize their btc holdings are retards.

ps: shrot @314



I just hope we didn't skin too many Greeks in the process. I imagine some were actually sold. Undecided


Bitcoin wont save Greece.

 ..So incredibly true.

 Just as how Greece won't save Bitcoin Wink

 Nor will China's or the US/EU's stock market troubles ;

 Nor would (for any lasting adoption and/or price gains) any further P&D's by large-scale Ponzi promoters like that LTC pump chinese guy ;

 ..the only thing that can save BTC is 1. Global apocalyptic event -or- 2a. Another 2008 Subprime-Style global fiat financial meltdown -&- 2b. The BitcoinCore & Blockchain Tech fundamental technical problems have been addressed & Bitcoin is vastly easier to use & features a more secure/stable blockchain network.

 After all, just a few days ago, people like me were shaking our heads as the degenerates in this thread were howling for CCMF as if those fundamental human psychology & sociological factors were suddenly not applying anymore [General public(plebians) are lazy | Mediocrity-minded/Tolerate corrupt & inefficient fiat banking + traditional payments | Soft/Don't like change/Prefer Status Quo], & blockchain's core challenges were magically solved thus enabling global mass user adoption all of a sudden ~ Meanwhile I loaded shorts @ $315 (but I got scared & closed them at 300 ;p), because after all :



The bitcoin protocol is a great advance towards an old computer science problem, and was a very interesting experiment in payment technology.  As a computer scientist, I could like that.  

But I wrote "was" because that experiment has been turned into something that is not nice at all.  Mainly, a huge pyramid scheme that is sucking millions of dollars every day from hundreds of thousands of ill-informed people, burning much of it in useless computations, and giving the rest to some smart and/or lucky people.  That scheme has ruined the experiment, by pumping up its value to 1000x what it should have been, and centralizing mining into a handful (literally, 5) of companies.

Bitcoin could still go back to being a nice computing experiment, as it was in 2009, if the price crashed back to cents. It should do that eventually, because the investment pyramid cannot go on forever.  But now there is a new unexpected threat: Blockstream has taken control of the reference implementation (BitcoinCore) and intends to turn it into a channel for settlements among big entities, drive all person-to-person traffic off the bitcoin network, to offchain solutions like Coinbase, Circle, or the hypothetical Lightning Network.  To achieve that goal, they are refusing to make what should be a no-brainer maintenance fix (raising the block size limit), spreading FUD about centralization, and trying to descredit Gavin and Mike Hearn.

So I am taking side in this dispute because it is a technical computer science question, and I cannot avoud giving my technical opinion about it.  Plus, I have this psychological problem about scammers and cheats -- and I feel that the Blockstream guys are getting pretty close to that...


Trying to put myself in place of the typical user, I would think that many who tried to use Bitcoin these days, and were not aware of the need to pay higher than normal fees, must have concluded that the system was broken, and did what any user of free software would do: gave up on it.  Note that only a few thousand bitcoin users read the forums or the bitcoin "news" sites (an the latter tend to hide or minimize problems).


1+2a+2b will happen - sooner or later.
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people that did not see this casual pump&dump pattern and thus did not take the opportunity to maximize their btc holdings are retards.

ps: shrot @314



I just hope we didn't skin too many Greeks in the process. I imagine some were actually sold. Undecided


Bitcoin wont save Greece.

 ..So incredibly true.

 Just as how Greece won't save Bitcoin Wink

 Nor will China's or the US/EU's stock market troubles ;

 Nor would (for any lasting adoption and/or price gains) any further P&D's by large-scale Ponzi promoters like that LTC pump chinese guy ;

 ..the only thing that can save BTC is 1. Global apocalyptic event -or- 2a. Another 2008 Subprime-Style global fiat financial meltdown -&- 2b. The BitcoinCore & Blockchain Tech fundamental technical problems have been addressed & Bitcoin is vastly easier to use & features a more secure/stable blockchain network.

 After all, just a few days ago, people like me were shaking our heads as the degenerates in this thread were howling for CCMF as if those fundamental human psychology & sociological factors were suddenly not applying anymore [General public(plebians) are lazy | Mediocrity-minded/Tolerate corrupt & inefficient fiat banking + traditional payments | Soft/Don't like change/Prefer Status Quo], & blockchain's core challenges were magically solved thus enabling global mass user adoption all of a sudden ~ Meanwhile I loaded shorts @ $315 (but I got scared & closed them at 300 ;p), because after all :



The bitcoin protocol is a great advance towards an old computer science problem, and was a very interesting experiment in payment technology.  As a computer scientist, I could like that.  

But I wrote "was" because that experiment has been turned into something that is not nice at all.  Mainly, a huge pyramid scheme that is sucking millions of dollars every day from hundreds of thousands of ill-informed people, burning much of it in useless computations, and giving the rest to some smart and/or lucky people.  That scheme has ruined the experiment, by pumping up its value to 1000x what it should have been, and centralizing mining into a handful (literally, 5) of companies.

Bitcoin could still go back to being a nice computing experiment, as it was in 2009, if the price crashed back to cents. It should do that eventually, because the investment pyramid cannot go on forever.  But now there is a new unexpected threat: Blockstream has taken control of the reference implementation (BitcoinCore) and intends to turn it into a channel for settlements among big entities, drive all person-to-person traffic off the bitcoin network, to offchain solutions like Coinbase, Circle, or the hypothetical Lightning Network.  To achieve that goal, they are refusing to make what should be a no-brainer maintenance fix (raising the block size limit), spreading FUD about centralization, and trying to descredit Gavin and Mike Hearn.

So I am taking side in this dispute because it is a technical computer science question, and I cannot avoud giving my technical opinion about it.  Plus, I have this psychological problem about scammers and cheats -- and I feel that the Blockstream guys are getting pretty close to that...


Trying to put myself in place of the typical user, I would think that many who tried to use Bitcoin these days, and were not aware of the need to pay higher than normal fees, must have concluded that the system was broken, and did what any user of free software would do: gave up on it.  Note that only a few thousand bitcoin users read the forums or the bitcoin "news" sites (an the latter tend to hide or minimize problems).

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bitcoin wont save greece.
However... unlike the EU, it's not out to DESTROY Greece Grin
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Fat jokes, eh?

people that did not see this casual pump&dump pattern and thus did not take the opportunity to maximize their btc holdings are retards.

ps: shrot @314

Thx, f u 2
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people that did not see this casual pump&dump pattern and thus did not take the opportunity to maximize their btc holdings are retards.

ps: shrot @314



I just hope we didn't skin too many Greeks in the process. I imagine some were actually sold. Undecided


bitcoin wont save greece.
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I've got this pain in my digital wallet. Any ideas?

Digital pharmaceuticals is the way to go.
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people that did not see this casual pump&dump pattern and thus did not take the opportunity to maximize their btc holdings are retards.

ps: shrot @314
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
I've got this pain in my digital wallet. Any ideas?
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This up/down is so fun. The next btc rally (autumn/winter) is not going to be about getting rich. It'll be about fun and proving the point.
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Been busy last few days. I see the price has taken a bit of a battering Sad . Sad that the price is still so easily manipulated by a few uber rich whales. I guess it'll continue to happen until we get real news worth a pump.
Until then HODL hard people, don't be weak.
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who gives a f*ck about a dutch bank?
The Dutch?

ING is also in USA mainly for investments than checking/saving

ING and Rabo are in Australia too.... I'd never bank with them... Follow the trail and you'll find that they're both heavily invested in Israeli arms companies. In fact most banks are fucking scum.
......another reason why I choose BTC.  
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