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hero member
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Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
Lots of talk from bears who are also losing money on their leveraged positions every day. I say talk because you have already sold or shorted - all you can do is yap or buy the price higher if the market turns.

Waiting for someone else to sell the price lower for you because line on a chart points down. Worked in 2011, right Xiao?

The same can be said for those who went long, especially those at 260-290. 

and from $600 and above!!  Grin Grin
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
Lots of talk from bears who are also losing money on their leveraged positions every day. I say talk because you have already sold or shorted - all you can do is yap or buy the price higher if the market turns.

Waiting for someone else to sell the price lower for you because line on a chart points down. Worked in 2011, right Xiao?

The same can be said for those who went long, especially those at 260-290. 
legendary
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Works until it spectacularly doesn't. See bitcoin log multiyear trend.

Though, I really don't see any beartrolls making it here, but slightly doing their work on the charts and they now seem to be interested in actions instead of talks. I think the value is still stabilized as compared to the volatility we saw during previous years.
legendary
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Lots of talk from bears who are also losing money on their leveraged positions every day. I say talk because you have already sold or shorted - all you can do is yap or buy the price higher if the market turns.

Waiting for someone else to sell the price lower for you because line on a chart points down. Worked in 2011, right Xiao?

But they seem to have already been making money by shorting as the price is declining constantly. They have done all the "homework" they needed and we don't know what they have been currently waiting for.

Works until it spectacularly doesn't. See bitcoin log multiyear trend.
legendary
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Lots of talk from bears who are also losing money on their leveraged positions every day. I say talk because you have already sold or shorted - all you can do is yap or buy the price higher if the market turns.

Waiting for someone else to sell the price lower for you because line on a chart points down. Worked in 2011, right Xiao?

But they seem to have already been making money by shorting as the price is declining constantly. They have done all the "homework" they needed and we don't know what they have been currently waiting for.
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Found Lost beach - quiet now
I'm long - "that's what she said"
legendary
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Lots of talk from bears who are also losing money on their leveraged positions every day. I say talk because you have already sold or shorted - all you can do is yap or buy the price higher if the market turns.

Waiting for someone else to sell the price lower for you because line on a chart points down. Worked in 2011, right Xiao?
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legendary
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Tip/dip bring it



Yeah, let's face it. Dumpers are gonna dump, why should we waste our time? Let's buy it cheap and HODL.
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
^That is retarded and really not funny.

Try saying it out loud in a funny voice
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Colletrix - Bridging the Physical and Virtual Worl
^That is retarded and really not funny.
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
I would love to see a $180 double bottom, especially on high volume, but I can't wait for something that may happen at all. I have buy orders far north of that and If I get in too early, I can live with that. Somebody's  gonna wait too long and it won't be me.

Greece is going to implement capital controls within a month or two. The smart ones are going to want crypto and I plan on being in a position to provide it. If you think Bitcoin is volatile, just wait until the Grexit.  Things are going to get interesting.

Billy Joe Banjo! Haven't seen you in a while. Lots of fires in the south?

Just got back from one. A little house fire, nothing to get excited about. I got a second job to take advantage of these low BTC prices so I hope it stays down long enough for me to load up. I'll soon be in a position to hold indefinitely and even add to my position so I don't much care which way the price goes in the next few months.

If you work on commission at the fire department you could just buy a can of gas and be proactive.
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
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Hide your women
I would love to see a $180 double bottom, especially on high volume, but I can't wait for something that may happen at all. I have buy orders far north of that and If I get in too early, I can live with that. Somebody's  gonna wait too long and it won't be me.

Greece is going to implement capital controls within a month or two. The smart ones are going to want crypto and I plan on being in a position to provide it. If you think Bitcoin is volatile, just wait until the Grexit.  Things are going to get interesting.

Billy Joe Banjo! Haven't seen you in a while. Lots of fires in the south?

Just got back from one. A little house fire, nothing to get excited about. I got a second job to take advantage of these low BTC prices so I hope it stays down long enough for me to load up. I'll soon be in a position to hold indefinitely and even add to my position so I don't much care which way the price goes in the next few months.
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1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
I would love to see a $180 double bottom, especially on high volume, but I can't wait for something that may happen at all. I have buy orders far north of that and If I get in too early, I can live with that. Somebody's  gonna wait too long and it won't be me.

Greece is going to implement capital controls within a month or two. The smart ones are going to want crypto and I plan on being in a position to provide it. If you think Bitcoin is volatile, just wait until the Grexit.  Things are going to get interesting.

Billy Joe Banjo! Haven't seen you in a while. Lots of fires in the south?
legendary
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Still $26m in longs.  Someone is going to get margin called very soon.
Too many longs are dangerous :/
legendary
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Hide your women
I would love to see a $180 double bottom, especially on high volume, but I can't wait for something that may happen at all. I have buy orders far north of that and If I get in too early, I can live with that. Somebody's  gonna wait too long and it won't be me.

Greece is going to implement capital controls within a month or two. The smart ones are going to want crypto and I plan on being in a position to provide it. If you think Bitcoin is volatile, just wait until the Grexit.  Things are going to get interesting.
legendary
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It looks like really slow/boring downside movement, where we will test support around 200-220..if we break that support, damn, it will take long time before we will truly reverse the bear trend...my crystal ball told me that this morning

so i am placing buys on 20 BTC @ 180...do you think its too low / or still too high??

I´d say too high, entire movement since january seems now like H/S pattern, which would point to lower lows 90-130. However 180 is safe bet unless you go in leveraged, bitcoin should recover fairly quickly after crashing to bottom.

Many people predicting 80-120 prices...i somehow refuse to believe that after so great fundamentals and difficulty x times higher than 2013 summer,  i would buy in the same range i was buying most of my coins...i will probably go like 80% of my money to 160-180 and 20% i will hide for the final crash to 100-120 but i really don't believe we will go that low...


Despite what Sr. Stolfi likes to claim about "there being no fundamentals", you are right of course: Bitcoin fundamentals are substantially better now than they were, say, 2 years ago.

The network is undergoing respectable growth (although perhaps a bit less spectacular than some were hoping a year or two ago). Number of transactions is up - and despite what the trolls like to claim, no evidence exists that this is due to manipulation. Hashrate is growing, which obviously serves a greater purpose than simply "making miners rich", i.e. the core function of the network (security) is getting stronger.

Alternatively, you can look at investments in BTC infrastructure as a long-term predictor. Sure, those are not "fundamentals" per se, but they're a good indicator that this isn't a Ponzi after all - again, despite what the trolls like to claim.


All of the above granted though, there is no arguing with the market.

In order for your argument (about price/fundamentals now vs. price/fundamentals back then) to actually work, you need at least one additional assumption: that price back then was the "fair" price per coin. And I'm afraid that's not a given. We're in the long, arduous process of figuring out what the fair price per coin is.

My personal view is this: if you look back at the limited history of this market, you will note that there are periods where price seems to run ahead of the fundamentals, and periods where the fundamentals seem to run ahead of price. Right now, we're in the latter type of period, and it's possible that it'll last some longer.
legendary
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The Golden Rule Rules
Still $26m in longs.  Someone is going to get margin called very soon.

We've heard that for over a month now, very soon seems to be sometime 2017.

The whales never dump midday USA time.  Always at night.  Just watch.
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