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Can bitcoin safe Greece??

If the Greek people begin to use bitcoin instead of Euro, Bitcoin will EXPLODE!! Another pro bull market argument... The people with Shorts on please wake up, before you get margin called out, and we all have to feed you with our spare satoshis!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

And how do you propose the greeks are going to get bitcoin? Buy it with what, exactly?

Are you going to loan them some? Because that worked out real well for the Germans...

Get real man, if you are going to troll, do so with a sense of humour and irony. This is simply not trying hard enough. You Greek, by any chance?  Grin


they will get BTC with signature programs and faucets. The same that some people wanna ban and say that is worthless.


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thanks, makes a lot of sense. I'm happy to wait with them and observe, for now Smiley
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thanks... for me the more I try to think like a whale the more I imagine they have more to gain by continuing the downtrend.

They will continue in the direction of least resistance according to supply and demand. That is why after capitulation they began pumping instead of dumping. Fighting natural market forces is a good way to go broke, any market professional knows this. They won't do it. There is also a good chance that they can see both sides of the market and have insider connections--so they know when to mark the price up or down ahead of how much fiat is entering the exchanges and what kind of news is coming out.

They've tested the hell out of this price range and it resulted in an accumulation gradient of rising bottoms (likely by multiple competing interests). This is bullish. They see this. We will test downward as many times as needed to break $300. If it means that they hold most of the coins on Finex to do this, so be it. They will be distributed later.


I get your points. It's just considering the implication that the large actors are sufficiently stacked to change market sentiment completely (tweak indicators, create momentum, etc) wouldn't it be profitable to sell into a rising bull market if you feel with a degree of certainty that you can manipulate it down again? When the consensus targets are above an exit point you are happy with, you know they are going to continiously keep buying at your favourite point before getting exhausted. Let's assume 300 is that point, would roughly 100% gains (if for arguments sake their buy point was near the 166 bottom, and we discount the massive rebound to 315) or more not be sufficient for this whole exercise? The new "sustainable" bull market can come later when the institutions are properly set up and notable new money is flowing in.

Every move costs them money and they want to reduce costs, as anyone logically would in their position. They cannot take control of the entire market; there is still organic trading and medium sized whales that will profit from them given the chance. It's simply more expensive to dump into a bull market that has removed so much supply from weak hands and has so many accumulators waiting. They could still dump down to $220 today, but why would they? It would be prohibitively expensive the likelihood of the dump being successful is reduced as everyone tries to frontrun everyone else for cheap coins. Instead they can push up, which is cheaper and it benefits their massive portfolio of coins they've been building.

The way I see it, Jan 25th's volume shows a large distribution area around $300-$315. This is whales unloading longs from the bottom--they cannot hide from that volume. They likely reloaded during the next few weeks in stealth (the pump before the Bter news had whale footprints) but are still holding as there hasn't been a spike in volume nor a buying climax yet for them to sell into. In fact volume has been reducing, indicating that they're largely observing and waiting. Now if there isn't sustained buying at this level as we consolidate sideways for a few weeks, I could envision an eventual extended test downward to force out remaining bears as they unload and push the market down. If we hold $280 and the market shows a bullish bias in the coming days, I think the direction is obvious for them.
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10.000 USD pr coin is what I would say is the real bitcoin price, if the market was fully informed. I think a lot will happen soon, and definitely the prices should be between 1000 and 10000 soon... with the 2500-5000 an more realistic range of the next bull market.

10,000 USD per coin, would make bitcoin only 0.18% of the global money supply (M2). I think this magic currency has the potential to play a much bigger role in global economics  Grin


This is exactly why we are still in infancy of the bitcoin history. Its like we still play in the sandbox at the kindergarten. Max Keisers prediction of 1 million dollar pr Bitcoin is worth thinking about on a daily basis. Its just a matter of time. I would say 10.000 dollar pr Bitcoin is the true value by now! With realistic result of this bull market hitting between 2500-5000 USD.

The transformation to the free world, will be very interesting in the next bulls of Bitcoin, as more people will be freed from the evil masters and this will contribute till even more people get freed... sorry I got back in the Matrix metaphor, that I have not used for years, as people around me got tired of listening to them in 2004-2007, but now they are very relevant in these days, as it happens in a very real maner with bitcoin as the tool.


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Its the irony of Bitcoin; once you realize you need it, you can't get any because nobody wants what you have to trade (your hyper-fiat)

What, my hyper-fiat?



Maybe in 50 years that thing will become cute, sorta like Messerschmitt KR

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Its the irony of Bitcoin; once you realize you need it, you can't get any because nobody wants what you have to trade (your hyper-fiat)

What, my hyper-fiat?

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Can bitcoin safe Greece??

If the Greek people begin to use bitcoin instead of Euro, Bitcoin will EXPLODE!! Another pro bull market argument... The people with Shorts on please wake up, before you get margin called out, and we all have to feed you with our spare satoshis!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

And how do you propose the greeks are going to get bitcoin? Buy it with what, exactly?

Are you going to loan them some? Because that worked out real well for the Germans...

Get real man, if you are going to troll, do so with a sense of humour and irony. This is simply not trying hard enough. You Greek, by any chance?  Grin

Its the irony of Bitcoin; once you realize you need it, you can't get any because nobody wants what you have to trade (your hyper-fiat)
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NLC hasn't been active for 6 days Shocked

He won't be back until Easter.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am NotLambchop; and shall deceive many.
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.


TL:DR:  I am amongst you, and though I once came to you as the Lamb, so shall I return as the lion, to judge and to smite.  And to chew bubblegum.  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

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thanks... for me the more I try to think like a whale the more I imagine they have more to gain by continuing the downtrend.

They will continue in the direction of least resistance according to supply and demand. That is why after capitulation they began pumping instead of dumping. Fighting natural market forces is a good way to go broke, any market professional knows this. They won't do it. There is also a good chance that they can see both sides of the market and have insider connections--so they know when to mark the price up or down ahead of how much fiat is entering the exchanges and what kind of news is coming out.

They've tested the hell out of this price range and it resulted in an accumulation gradient of rising bottoms (likely by multiple competing interests). This is bullish. They see this. We will test downward as many times as needed to break $300. If it means that they hold most of the coins on Finex to do this, so be it. They will be distributed later.


I get your points. It's just considering the implication that the large actors are sufficiently stacked to change market sentiment completely (tweak indicators, create momentum, etc) wouldn't it be profitable to sell into a rising bull market if you feel with a degree of certainty that you can manipulate it down again? When the consensus targets are above an exit point you are happy with, you know they are going to continiously keep buying at your favourite point before getting exhausted. Let's assume 300 is that point, would roughly 100% gains (if for arguments sake their buy point was near the 166 bottom, and we discount the massive rebound to 315) or more not be sufficient for this whole exercise? The new "sustainable" bull market can come later when the institutions are properly set up and notable new money is flowing in.
legendary
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after following this thread for a year I've made my first transaction based upon TA.  I bought based upon the 6 hour KDJ lines.  I decided to buy 13 hours ago and put off the bills till later in the month as opposed to buying Bitcoin later in the month.  

Then I think of oda.krell   Grin Cheesy Grin

Edit: and dreamspark

I get the feeling there's either an insult wrapped up in there, or a compliment.

Or possibly both. 

ಠ_ಠ

Definitely a complement.

Looks like my Cargo Cult reading of TA worked Smiley
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NLC hasn't been active for 6 days Shocked

He won't be back until Easter.

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am NotLambchop; and shall deceive many.
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.


TL:DR:  I am amongst you, and though I once came to you as the Lamb, so shall I return as the lion, to judge and to smite.  And to chew bubblegum.  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y

Can bitcoin safe Greece??

If the Greek people begin to use bitcoin instead of Euro, Bitcoin will EXPLODE!! Another pro bull market argument... The people with Shorts on please wake up, before you get margin called out, and we all have to feed you with our spare satoshis!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

And how do you propose the greeks are going to get bitcoin? Buy it with what, exactly?

Are you going to loan them some? Because that worked out real well for the Germans...

Get real man, if you are going to troll, do so with a sense of humour and irony. This is simply not trying hard enough. You Greek, by any chance?  Grin
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NLC hasn't been active for 6 days Shocked

He won't be back until Easter.

He's busy posting as one of his 56K alts today:

             CCMF!!

The best is yet to come!

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