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legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
so in 2036 when I turn 79 the reward will be

0.39062500BTC

You mean?

$195,312.5 to $390,625

($195,312.5 to $390,625) / 0.390625 BTC = $500,000 to $1,000,000 / BTC

I find these prices a bit conservative for 2036. I hope we get there by 2028. Whatever happens, it's still a win for HoDLers.

I would advise any Bitcoin newbie to set their target at reaching 1 whole BTC. They should attain f.u. status within the next 10 years.

I am not suggesting that I necessarily disagree with you, but wouldn't getting to fuck you status depend upon what is their "personal" "subjective" fuck you status?

I am not saying that truth is subjective, but I am suggesting that there are a lot of individual factors that go into determining "what is" fuck you status?

Unless you might be referring to a kind of default entry-level fuck you status for the west that might be something like $2million in today's dollars... .. and surely it seems that there are pretty decent odds that entry-level fuck you status could be achieved with 1 BTC in 10 years from now.. so in 2033.. ..

And, surely we know that there are some folks who are easily able to get to 1 BTC.. in these times or maybe even within the next 2-5 years; however, the next question would be to be able to hang onto at least 1 BTC in the subsequent 5-8 years in which some of these folks might get shaken from their BTC.

Currently many of us consider right around 80 BTC to be default entry-level fuck you status for todays current overall climate (BTC versus USD versus macro dynamics), and just think about how many guys could have accumulated somewhere in the ballpark of 80 BTC in the past 6-9 years?... so we could say that in the past 5-9 years,  80 BTC could have been fairly easily acquired and accumulated between $24k (at $300 per BTC) and/or $240k ($3k per BTC), and perhaps many folks potentially somewhere in the middle of right around $80k (which would be $1k per BTC), so then for sure, it would have had been better to have had been able to get accumulate up to 80 BTC or more for the lower end of that price spectrum of $300 per BTC or $24k BTC, but even paying a bit more than that might not be so bad based on the current value of 80 BTC.. and at the same time, part of the question might have been to be able to hang onto the BTC, for 5-9 years or longer and still be in a position to have those 80BTC, so sometimes it might not hurt to accumulate more BTC (something like 100 BTC at various points in time) but then still end up with 80 BTC in current times.

Similar with the desire to have 1 BTC or more in 2033 or later, then maybe it might be good to accumulate 1.2 BTC to 1.5 BTC to still be able to have at least 1 BTC by the time 2033-ish comes along.

This is exactly what happens to me when I accept trades in other coins including Bitcoin.


You must be lost Patrol69..,. I mean in the wrong thread.

Who would be so retarded as to trade BTC?

And, maybe you should tell us, from your perspective, whether "other coins" are in the room with us right now?  not that I am trying to feed/save a lost puppy

local consolidation likely to continue into March

Wow!!!!!!  Shocked Shocked Shocked  don't go too far out on a limb

That's a "brave" call.. #nohomo.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Can you tell me if there is any new news?

EUROPE POLITICS: UK and EU agree to crucial Northern Ireland trade deal in Brexit breakthrough

KEY POINTS
- British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak described the new agreement — known as the Windsor Framework — as “the beginning of a new chapter” for the relationship between the U.K. and the EU.
- European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen added that the Framework “respects and protects” the “legitimate” interests of the respective markets.
- Sunak is set to make a statement in Parliament at 1830 GMT.

LONDON — British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak on Monday signed a new trade deal with the European Union designed to remedy problems caused by the Northern Ireland Protocol.

Speaking at a news conference shortly after the announcement, Sunak described the new agreement — known as the Windsor Framework — as “the beginning of a new chapter” for the relationship between the U.K. and the EU.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen added that the framework “respects and protects our respective markets and our respective legitimate interests. And, most importantly, it protects the very hard-earned peace gains of the Belfast Good Friday Agreement.”

Sterling hit a session high of $1.2051, up 0.9%, shortly after the announcement. The euro also rose 0.7% hit a session high of $1.0613.

Sunak is due make a statement in Parliament at 1830 GMT. He said lawmakers would get to vote on the new agreement “at the appropriate time,” adding that vote will be “respected.”

A deal years in the making
The U.K. may have left the European Union on Jan. 31, 2020, but the Northern Ireland Protocol has sparked persistent disagreement ever since. This part of the Brexit deal mandates checks on some goods that travel to Northern Ireland from the rest of the U.K. — with the new negotiations aimed at easing these rules.

Unionist parties in Northern Ireland — which is part of the U.K, unlike its neighbor Ireland, which is part of the EU — have argued that the checks place an effective border in the Irish Sea. The Protocol has also been criticized for jeopardizing the Good Friday Agreement — a long-standing peace deal that brought an end to three decades of sectarian violence in Northern Ireland.

Sunak’s government has sought amendments to the deal signed by former Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who has led calls from the hardline Eurosceptic wing within the ruling Conservative Party to rip up the deal he himself negotiated.

Breaking from predecessors Johnson and Liz Truss, Sunak has taken a less combative approach to engagement with the EU in the hope of reaching a resolution on key issues surrounding Northern Ireland by easing checks on goods traveling across the Irish Sea.



Photo collection to Google.

I think the completion of this trade deal marks the beginning of a whole new chapter.

British Prime Minister Rishi and European Commission President Ursula Mon der Leyen will be able to reach their goal of full peace after the deal is completed.
Very good  Shocked
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Israel's stock exchange to let brokers offer #bitcoin to clients.

https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1630289283134242819?t=4rvO0W5r8EfjUUxXuBdngw&s=19

“#Bitcoin    represents the removal of power from a government into the hands of people” - #bitcoin2023 speaker Grant McCarty ✊

Source: https://twitter.com/TheBitcoinConf/status/1630344765798752258?s=19
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'The right to privacy matters'
Hey all you low-carb Wall Observers!  Heads up!

 Erythritol, a commonly used sugar substitute, seems to enhance blood clotting and can be dangerous for those already at risk of heart attack, stroke and clotting disorders should probably avoid it.  

 https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/health/zero-calorie-sweetener-heart-attack-stroke-wellness/index.html

https://newsroom.clevelandclinic.org/2023/02/27/cleveland-clinic-study-finds-common-artificial-sweetener-linked-to-higher-rates-of-heart-attack-and-stroke/


I use monk fruit.

much safer.


https://www.amazon.com/TEAki-Hut-Sweetener-Substitute-Friendly/dp/B08KGYJ4TL?

I use monk fruit and a bit of maple syrup.

As a diabetic with great cholesterol I make chessecake quite a bit.

Using the monk fruit and maple syrup make a very low carb cheese cake.

and topped with fresh whipping cream flavored with vanilla and monkfruit and maple syrup.

I can make a cheesecake with under 30 carbs for the whole cake.

don't use cream cheese use this:

https://www.shoprite.com/sm/planning/rsid/631/product/chavrie-goats-milk-cheese-00070551700537


2 of them                          = 2 carbs
2 eggs                              = 0 carbs
¼ teaspoon of monk fruit   = 0 carbs
1 tablespoon maple syrup  = 24 carbs
1 oz blanched almonds      = 3 net carbs
total carbs                        =    29

if I make the whipped cream

1 pint whipping cream       = 0 carbs
⅛ teaspoon monk fruit      = 0 carbs
1  teaspoon maple syrup    = 8 carbs   

the monk fruit is sweet but has a citric after taste. the maple syrup knocks that out.


Food tastes good  carbs are low. 37-40 for the whole cake it serves 4
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Don't even go there.   Angry Angry Angry Angry


You cannot keep putting off your retirement date - unless your hidden agenda (perhaps a spooke?) want to work until you be die.  Tongue


In other words, shouldn't folks in these here parts be attempting to aspire to NOT to have to work... especially if there is a 4-10-year planning timeline? (and with your particular example of 2036, that's 13 years from now.. more than three full cycles. .. I have frequently been proclaiming that it might be a bit much for any normie (who is not able to inject a lot of capital into bitcoin) to be able to really expect to get to real comfortable status (at or near fuck you status when starting from a place of somewhat normie resources... which is not a lot of pre-established investment portfolio) in less than 2 full cycles.


Now, if you want to work for the mere sake of it as an optional thing rather than a "have to" thing, then that's another story.


But if you feel that you have to work, then that does not seem like a great aspirational objective, especially if we are in the midst of experiencing (and potentially benefiting from) the greatest wealth transfer that the world has ever witnessed.. so why not partake in the side-benefits of richie status? rather than workie-workie 4ever status?

but in the next 13 years 2023 to 2036 we should see just how big a deal BTC will be.

It sounds like you have doubts.

In other words, the way that you are framing the question, you seem like someone who is failing/refusing to adequately prepare for UP.. even  though, sure, I believe that you have some cornz.. but you do frequently convert in and out of fiats (and shitcoins).. so your own statements about your actions continues to cause pause regarding your seemingly ongoing refusals to sufficiently/adequately** prepare for up... at least from this here cat.

** I will concede that the expression, sufficiently/adequately does have quite a bit of a subjective element and even quite a bit of discretionary angle to it.

so in 2036 when I turn 79 the reward will be
0.39062500BTC
You mean?

$195,312.5 to $390,625

YOU BEAR!!!!!!

 Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry


Yes,

Hey buddy ,Can you tell me if there is any new news?

Protip: By definition news is new, otherwise it is not news... Just saying for many of you folks (seemingly newbies) posting the same ting-i-lies over and over and over again (and without any original thoughts).
legendary
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Hey all you low-carb Wall Observers!  Heads up!

 Erythritol, a commonly used sugar substitute, seems to enhance blood clotting and can be dangerous for those already at risk of heart attack, stroke and clotting disorders should probably avoid it.  

 https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/health/zero-calorie-sweetener-heart-attack-stroke-wellness/index.html

https://newsroom.clevelandclinic.org/2023/02/27/cleveland-clinic-study-finds-common-artificial-sweetener-linked-to-higher-rates-of-heart-attack-and-stroke/
legendary
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Be careful in regards to going 100%, even in bitcoin.  

You need to be able to make sure that you can cover your expenses, including emergencies.. so usually for the vast majority of peeps (normies) and even non-normies, it is not a good idea to go 100% into anything (especially when we are in a transitory period like this, and also that bitcoin constitutes way less than 1% of the word's population's adoption.. and even way less than 1% of the monetary and monetary derivatives values.. not even accounting for the likelihood that bitcoin is quite likely going to continue to increase the size of the monetary value pie in the coming years.. for perhaps more than 200 years into the future and longer) unless you have some very exceptional circumstances.
Even the most hardcore Bitcoin maximalists are not 100% Bitcoin because you cannot survive 100% on Bitcoin. Until there is a service which allows you to pay your mortgage, rent, groceries, daily expenses and any other expenses you have you cannot go 100% Bitcoin. If you do you will probably get stuck. Try finding a dentist that accepts Bitcoin. You cannot unless you live in El Salvador where it is legal tender. In the USA you are not going to be able to live off of Bitcoin on its own.

I suggest having emergency funds but they could differ between people. If you are a older person you might take into consideration that you will need more money because the chances of having a emergency related event is more likely. If you are a younger person you might not have any unexpected health issues that can pop up but no one is immune to falling over and breaking a bone or smashing their teeth out so everyone should have a bare minimum of at least $3000 in their emergency savings but I recommend more.

If you have a mortgage then you need to have a emergency fund more then the minimum just in case you lose your job. We are in a financial crisis and the likelihood of people losing their job is very high and is unpredictable. If you have a mortgage get insurance that will cover at least a year if you get fired or have savings of at least 6-12 months so you can pay your mortgage. Only then can you start thinking about investing in Bitcoin when you have money left over.  

I recommend every one buys Bitcoin but I do not recommend people to be foolish and ignore the possibilities of them having a emergency especially in a financial crisis as large as this one. It harms the Bitcoin community to because if people invest but then have to take a loss because they need to withdraw during a bear season then they will probably never buy Bitcoin again and that hurts adoption. We want people who are financially ready to invest and will not withdraw at a loss because it drives the price down for us all.

Anyhow, it is crazy how people have differing ways of thinking about matters, even when I alway thought that I had provided reasonable frameworks to just HODL your BTC, especially if you do not have very much invested.. but people get anxious and they want to "cash out" and then have regrets.. so what can we do  when trying to "help" others (nocoiners or precoiners) to come around to bitcoin..
I do not want to offend you but your relative reminds me of the saying 'you can lead a horse to water but you cannot teach it to drink' you provided everything for them to succeed and if they were patient and listened to your advice they would have profited a lot but people are too set in their ways and they end up spiting them self.
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
I also noticed that the audio was picked up very nicely, and I don't think that she was wearing a mic..  because the sound pick-up seemed to be directional in terms of where her camera was placed... but still it seemed to have had picked up very clearly, even given their distance and even given that they were outside too.. must have been a pretty quiet area of the park.


Staged.
legendary
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Exactly!.. Just mind boggling to think how much 1 whole Bitcoin is truly worth! i don't think i need to repeat the same rhetoric about trying to accumulate a 1 whole Bitcoin...

That seems to be part of the reason why appreciate having more than 0.63BTC, and on a regular basis, I even tend to lecture newbie to bitcoin folks (normies) about NOT getting ahead of their skiis in terms of starting out attempting to accumulate what they can...  In 2018-2020, it may well have been more practical to aim towards getting a whole coin, but even for now, one whole coin might be out of reach for some newbie normies who are just getting into bitcoin, and they may well have to start out much smaller in terms of their goal.. and perhaps even if 0.21BTC might be too high, then maybe some of these newbie normies may well need to start to think in terms of satoshis.

I have a relative who I recently got into bitcoin somewhat.. and it is not even easy to know sometimes if these newbie normies are going to be "in" or not and whether they are going to be able to stay in.

On this particular person, I was suggesting that s/he could think in terms of satoshis, and maybe first strive to be a satoshi millionaire.. and that would be a good place to start... and there were a couple of times in the past 6 months or so in which we had agreed to some shared expenses in which s/he would pay in dollars and I would go on a bitcoin payment plan and to spread the payback over several weeks.. each time there were several weeks of payments, and the first set of payments, I had said to such relative that in accordance with my records, s/he is now a satoshi millionaire (merely based on my payments and apart from whether s/he had been accumulating bitcoin on the side).  And after the second set of payments, I had paid over 2 million satoshis.. so getting into the territory of multi-millionaire - depending on if more than 2 million constitutes multi-millionaire or if you might need over 3 million satoshis in order to cross such multi-millionaire threshold.

Several times, I had reminded such relative that I had paid his/her spouse close to half of a bitcoin through various times in 2016 through 2019.. and the spouse had been seeming to become quite hostile to bitcoin, even though in mid-2022, such bitcoin that I paid to the spouse would have been worth at least 50x higher than the various dollar related values of the payments at the time that I had paid the bitcoin.. but the spouse had largely turned into a no coiner.. and was ongoingly (and seemingly increasingly) bitter/hostile about the whole matter.

Anyhow, it is crazy how people have differing ways of thinking about matters, even when I alway thought that I had provided reasonable frameworks to just HODL your BTC, especially if you do not have very much invested.. but people get anxious and they want to "cash out" and then have regrets.. so what can we do  when trying to "help" others (nocoiners or precoiners) to come around to bitcoin..

In regards to rounding, it was in relations to halving cycle rewards... you obviously can't have 1/2 a SAT, so it was rounded up or down pending on the bit... so it wasn't a true halving.

That's too bad about the integer matter because I frequently presumed that the halvenings went on forever, even though the number would get infinitesimally smaller and smaller (especially if it were to be halved at sub-satoshi levels.. but whatever, if it stops fractionalizing below satoshis, then so be it...

We know that on the lighting network there has been recognition of sub-satoshis, such as low as 1/1000 of a satoshi, but yeah, those sub-satoshis seem to be rounded when getting validated back onto the blockchain (such as when a lightning channel closes with sub satoshis contained thereon).


Hahahaha...  Yeah.. that's interesting that the girl chose to confront the guy... , and the guy handled the matter quite well... and didn't even lose his patience.  

I also noticed that the audio was picked up very nicely, and I don't think that she was wearing a mic..  because the sound pick-up seemed to be directional in terms of where her camera was placed... but still it seemed to have had picked up very clearly, even given their distance and even given that they were outside too.. must have been a pretty quiet area of the park.
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No I didn't edit this image below via Browser inspect.
It GENUINELY states this on Yahoo UK right now.

What a fucking imbeciles, all of them. Governments, CIA and of course most of all the media.
 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Sounds like we are all going to die soon 🔜.

Oh well.

I will be having some vodka tonight.

May as well.  Vodka, potatoes, carbs.. what difference does it make, when we don't have eggs to eat? 

May as well drink our calories, especially since our days are numbered...


number goes up? 


Who cares?  Soon gonna be die.



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With how utterly clueless the media, governments and CIA are behaving I am starting to think we don't have that much to worry about at all.
All this stuff (mostly) seems to be scaremongering and even that they can't do right.

I don't believe you.   Cry Cry


If you were not worried, then you would have had provided "us" with an actual bitcoin "bunny" for our passing (visual and/or otherwise) enjoyments.   Angry Angry Angry

The first step to being free is just accept we are not getting out of here alive.

Next step is get BTC

WOW!!!!!!!!!

Even philip starting to "get it." 

I could not believe my eyes.



I had to do a double take.

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the noon wall report

dyor




legacy doing the funky chicken...the ooh noes bad PCE seems to have fizzled out.....sympathetic rebound observed
tic toc....on to the next block....bitcoin consolidating nicely

whales having some inclination to take some profits here....it is being said on the streets    'shrug'
locking in profits is never a bad idea imho....I think bitcoin will surprise many this year however
this weekly death cross thing will take some work to manoeuvre past...but it is going to happen
local consolidation likely to continue into March

carry on

4h



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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

If Bitcoin leaves our lives, everyone will fall.
All my assets are now bitcoin.

Be careful in regards to going 100%, even in bitcoin. 

You need to be able to make sure that you can cover your expenses, including emergencies.. so usually for the vast majority of peeps (normies) and even non-normies, it is not a good idea to go 100% into anything (especially when we are in a transitory period like this, and also that bitcoin constitutes way less than 1% of the word's population's adoption.. and even way less than 1% of the monetary and monetary derivatives values.. not even accounting for the likelihood that bitcoin is quite likely going to continue to increase the size of the monetary value pie in the coming years.. for perhaps more than 200 years into the future and longer) unless you have some very exceptional circumstances.

Chart buddy is a real guy or some bot that posts exactly after one hour? All his posts are with gap of exact one hour.
https://i.imgur.com/h1hBOak.png
"Full Member", really?
CB adds more to this community than most "* member's" I've seen.
*including my own inane posting habits
If companies are people then why not bots, what do you think JJG? Tongue

I have some practical differences of opinions (and tensions) regarding the concept of companies as being people or even having the same rights as people.. so the starting premise is not a comfortable one for me.  I do understand that legal fictions are created around companies, so I don't really have any problem with that..

Bots are scary, no?  Surely they can be used for good to empower people but it would seem our main values need to be attached to human values, even bitcoin seems to have had retained some ability to be attached to human values, even though there is a lot of ways that king daddy seems to not be attached.. so these surely are questions and tensions that likely are going to continue to exist and persist in bitcoinlandia.. in regards to how much bitcoin is affected and/or controllable by "we" here peeps.

I am not going to claim to know the answers to these kinds of questions... even though I recognize and appreciate aspects of the tensions that seem to exist... including but not limited to number go up.. ....

And, hey by the way, recently, I had been thinking about some of the seemingly guttural objections to inscriptions and ordinals on bitcoin, and some people have been arguing that cry, cry, cry, inscriptions/ordinals take away from bitcoin because bitcoin is supposed to be money and blah blah blah, even satoshi said that bitcoin is supposed to be money... and the fact of the matter is that bitcoin is and always has been more than money.. it is a kind of information transmission system that includes the ability to include value.. so whether we call that money or not or we say that inscriptions/cardinals are not sufficiently money enough seems to be lacking in imagination that pretty much bitcoin has always allowed for the transmission of information and including the various kinds of ways that incentives are attempted to be imbedded that should allow the market to figure out what kinds of things people (normies or whatever) want to send or try to send (including becoming part of the permanent record) over the bitcoin blockchain (timechain) that will likely to be cheaper to be sending and attaching these kinds of dickbutts in earlier times and likely more expensive as the bitcoin system continues to grow and more adoption happens.. and too bad so sad that dickbutts are getting included to be a permanent reflections regarding what some people/normies/or weirdos want to transmit in current times, and sure it seems that bitcoin allows that no one can stop them from being able to send whatever information and value that they are able to afford to send, even if some people believe that these kinds of value (or lack of va
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Far, Far, Far Right Thug


Lucky little brat
Harassing my weary legs
Without a spanking



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Probably not real and I suspect it's probably just her dad. But still quite funny.
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