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legendary
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There has been a pattern that has repeated three times in this bear market and is in the process of repeating again, where there is a crash, a bounce, a pause, a spike, a second bounce at a much higher level and then a slow dissipation of all upward momentum leading to the next crash. We are in the dissipation period now. The key thing to watch for is the volume as the price approaches support levels on the way down. Low volume= very bad. Stay in cash even if you close your short positions. High volume means the possibility of a double bottom.

I've lost a few houses worth of money identifying this pattern, so a wise person should learn from my mistakes. The fact that it was money I made on the way up is some consolation. Still, opportunity lost is opportunity lost.

you are short now?

For the first time in four years, I am margin short and looking for slightly higher prices just to sell more on margin. I have the ability to sell a lot more. It's gonna have to get worse before it gets much better.
legendary
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There has been a pattern that has repeated three times in this bear market and is in the process of repeating again, where there is a crash, a bounce, a pause, a spike, a second bounce at a much higher level and then a slow dissipation of all upward momentum leading to the next crash. We are in the dissipation period now. The key thing to watch for is the volume as the price approaches support levels on the way down. Low volume= very bad. Stay in cash even if you close your short positions. High volume means the possibility of a double bottom.

I've lost a few houses worth of money identifying this pattern, so a wise person should learn from my mistakes. The fact that it was money I made on the way up is some consolation. Still, opportunity lost is opportunity lost.

you are short now?
legendary
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There has been a pattern that has repeated three times in this bear market and is in the process of repeating again, where there is a crash, a bounce, a pause, a spike, a second bounce at a much higher level and then a slow dissipation of all upward momentum leading to the next crash. We are in the dissipation period now. The key thing to watch for is the volume as the price approaches support levels on the way down. Low volume= very bad. Stay in cash even if you close your short positions. High volume means the possibility of a double bottom.

I've lost a few houses worth of money identifying this pattern, so a wise person should learn from my mistakes. The fact that it was money I made on the way up is some consolation. Still, opportunity lost is opportunity lost.
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Ughh don't buy into all this trolling "On Friday, December 5, by 5:00pm EST, the USMS will notify the winning bidder/bidders that their bid/bids has/have been selected." http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/dpr-bitcoins/?m=1
Meaning all those that bid will know if they won. Meaning if i low ball bid
1-i get a small chance to get discounted coins bellow market which i can dump profit $$$
2-i'd be the first one to know if my bid wasn't selected then i can front run the new and buy coins on the market. Or better yet run the syndicate so you're now risking your own money, be the first one to get the news, act on it, distribute news to your syndicates(?) let them act on it, post on tweeter that your bid wasn't selected and watch the buying frenzy profit $$$

Bottom line everyone should get a feel whether the coins were bought bellow/above market by Friday so watching the coins move from that address a week later is pretty useless

(1) is zero risk for a winner clearly, and is risk free, if intention was to arb and not hold (I am assuming you mean selling the 'about to be received' coins, not buying more ... that makes no sense)
Not seeing how (2) works for a low-ball loser. Might work for a high bid loser who thinks market will adjust to the (unknown to him) winning price or is desperate to buy. Depends on risk appetite.
But I agree with your conclusion that some participants will have possible valuable information on Friday that will likely be reflected in the price.

EDIT: Actually, unless you win them all, there is very little to discern as you will not know the range of winning bids, so unless you only intended to arb and got a few low enough to do so, or bid very high for a few lots and lost and want coins at a price they have been available for for some time (duh), anything else is pretty much guesswork, much as all of this is Wink

Right depends on your definition of low-ball and high-ball looser. Clearly not winning with a bid at $1 BTC brings you little useful info. But if i don't win at say $370 and ALL lots sold above that, that'd be enough insider info to go long at market $375
legendary
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Could notlambchop be TERA's alter ego??

 Shocked

Not a chance. TERA was a master trader and I wish she was still here. I learned a lot from her.
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Still dumping, Daily change is %-2.30 right now... @BTC-e BTC is $370, that's lowest in the market.
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Ughh don't buy into all this trolling "On Friday, December 5, by 5:00pm EST, the USMS will notify the winning bidder/bidders that their bid/bids has/have been selected." http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/dpr-bitcoins/?m=1
Meaning all those that bid will know if they won. Meaning if i low ball bid
1-i get a small chance to get discounted coins bellow market which i can dump profit $$$
2-i'd be the first one to know if my bid wasn't selected then i can front run the new and buy coins on the market. Or better yet run the syndicate so you're now risking your own money, be the first one to get the news, act on it, distribute news to your syndicates(?) let them act on it, post on tweeter that your bid wasn't selected and watch the buying frenzy profit $$$

Bottom line everyone should get a feel whether the coins were bought bellow/above market by Friday so watching the coins move from that address a week later is pretty useless

(1) is zero risk for a winner clearly, and is risk free, if intention was to arb and not hold (I am assuming you mean selling the 'about to be received' coins, not buying more ... that makes no sense)
Not seeing how (2) works for a low-ball loser. Might work for a high bid loser who thinks market will adjust to the (unknown to him) winning price or is desperate to buy. Depends on risk appetite.
But I agree with your conclusion that some participants will have possible valuable information on Friday that will likely be reflected in the price.

EDIT: Actually, unless you win them all, there is very little to discern as you will not know the range of winning bids, so unless you only intended to arb and got a few low enough to do so, or bid very high for a few lots and lost and want coins at a price they have been available for for some time (duh), anything else is pretty much guesswork, much as all of this is Wink
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i have enough of waiting, i'm gonna dump my coins in exactly 1 hour on stamp. Bitcoin is history for me.

That was said at 19:59:33 UTC at 20:59UTC stamps volume was BTC1.42  at 21:00UTC volume is BTC0.0147 with a price around $379
Glad you cashed out your 1BTC. Don't let the door hit your ass on your way out

WOW, dat dump.  Cheesy
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i have enough of waiting, i'm gonna dump my coins in exactly 1 hour on stamp. Bitcoin is history for me.

That was said at 19:59:33 UTC at 20:59UTC stamps volume was BTC1.42  at 21:00UTC volume is BTC0.0147 with a price around $379
Glad you cashed out your 1BTC. Don't let the door hit your ass on your way out

1BTC

 Cheesy
legendary
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i have enough of waiting, i'm gonna dump my coins in exactly 1 hour on stamp. Bitcoin is history for me.

That was said at 19:59:33 UTC at 20:59UTC stamps volume was BTC1.42  at 21:00UTC volume is BTC0.0147 with a price around $379
Glad you cashed out your 1BTC. Don't let the door hit your ass on your way out
legendary
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In order to dump coins one must have coins
i have enough of waiting, i'm gonna dump my coins in exactly 1 hour on stamp. Bitcoin is history for me.


have a safe trip home and tell your friends we said "hi"

bye


So we can assume once you dump in 1hr you'll leave and we'll never hear from you ever again?? Please???
legendary
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i have enough of waiting, i'm gonna dump my coins in exactly 1 hour on stamp. Bitcoin is history for me.


have a safe trip home and tell your friends we said "hi"

bye


You will won't be missed!
legendary
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i have enough of waiting, i'm gonna dump my coins in exactly 1 hour on stamp. Bitcoin is history for me.


have a safe trip home and tell your friends we said "hi"

bye
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legendary
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i wonder when we will receive info about the auction Huh this market is killing me. no volume and flatlined price.

The winning bidders must make sure that the money is in the USMS bank account "by 2:00pm EST, on Monday, December 8, 2014." If a bidder fails to do so, the next one in line is notified and given a similar deadline to do the same.  Defaulting bidders lose their deposit, so there should be no defaults and the outcome will be defined by Monday afternoon.

Last time the auction was on a Friday, and the USMS revealed that "single buyer got it all" on the next Monday.

However, the announcement for this auction says "The USMS will not release any information to the general public pertaining to the auction process or results."  I don recall seeing this explicit statement in the previous announcement.  So perhaps they will not even tell us how many winning bidders there were, and whether all lots were sold.

http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/dpr-bitcoins/?m=1


so we wont have any info and bitcoin price at the mercy of the unknown buyer...  Cry Cry


We will be able to see from the transfer of the BTC if there was more than one winner. If they all go to one address ... one winner, or one consortium winner. If they are split from that address, likely a consortium, but not certain obviously - one bidder *could* choose to split them into different wallets
If the USMS send out to multiple addresses, likely more than one group won ...

Do you have the address to watch ?

Ughh don't buy into all this trolling "On Friday, December 5, by 5:00pm EST, the USMS will notify the winning bidder/bidders that their bid/bids has/have been selected." http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/dpr-bitcoins/?m=1
Meaning all those that bid will know if they won. Meaning if i low ball bid
1-i get a small chance to get discounted coins bellow market which i can dump profit $$$
2-i'd be the first one to know if my bid wasn't selected then i can front run the new and buy coins on the market. Or better yet run the syndicate so you're now risking your own money, be the first one to get the news, act on it, distribute news to your syndicates(?) let them act on it, post on tweeter that your bid wasn't selected and watch the buying frenzy profit $$$

Bottom line everyone should get a feel whether the coins were bought bellow/above market by Friday so watching the coins move from that address a week later is pretty useless
legendary
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Do you have the address to watch ?

I think this is the address with all the remaining SR seized coins, but i'm not completely sure: 1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

Thanks for that. I am going to watch it closely.
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