Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 24157. (Read 26607537 times)
December 03, 2014, 10:43:36 AM
nice buy on stamp
December 03, 2014, 10:42:13 AM
What kind of gentlemen is this?
December 03, 2014, 10:31:06 AM
Fucking broken logic, did a woman done came up with this? 
So tell me, is it sexual frustration or financial frustration that makes you say sexist shit?
Fake edit: Probably both.
It was a joke
Relax kid!
But aren't jokes supposed to be funny?
That joke was funny...
December 03, 2014, 10:18:28 AM
i wonder when we will receive info about the auction 
this market is killing me. no volume and flatlined price.
this market is killing me. no volume and flatlined price. Auction will be tomorrow.
Guess no info until friday, maybe until monday
December 03, 2014, 10:17:59 AM
OMG Bashar al Assad is interested in Bitcoin, this is bullish
December 03, 2014, 10:14:15 AM
i wonder when we will receive info about the auction this market is killing me. no volume and flatlined price.
this market is killing me. no volume and flatlined price. Auction will be tomorrow.
Guess no info until friday, maybe until monday
December 03, 2014, 10:12:20 AM
i wonder when we will receive info about the auction this market is killing me. no volume and flatlined price.
this market is killing me. no volume and flatlined price. 
December 03, 2014, 10:00:56 AM
December 03, 2014, 09:53:28 AM
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December 03, 2014, 09:16:32 AM
^TL;DR of the above, in a single gif:
December 03, 2014, 09:13:33 AM
LOL, okay Citi says the coins are going to go for a steep discount, must sell all my coins, after all they are bitcoin experts 
Which thought is correct?
(a) They should go for somewhat of a discount because it's an auction, and they are buying in bulk.
OR
(b) They should go for a bit over the current price because one couldn't simply buy that large amount of coins regularly without causing major slippage.
If you go back this thread in June you'll see this discussed over and over again. Im going to quote oda here rather than writing lots of stuff out I hope he doesn't mind but it should give you an idea of what likely happened last time and theres not much to suggest it should be different.
Tim Draper is holding (so he says; although his coins moved recently, it seems). Given his experience (~33% paper loss so far), the next auction winner may be a speculator who buys substantially below market to sell right away, possibly on the markets.
People (the bearish side of the forum, I mean) said exactly the same thing last time. That'd it be turned into arb profit right away (which was and is plausible, of course. iirc correctly, there was even a lady from some bank registered that *did* specialize in arb ^_^). Didn't work out that way. We don't know the exact price that the lots took in last time, but probably neither drastically above nor below market. Not drastically below, because one guy got them all, not drastically above, because the premium to get them all in one, counter party risk free lot is there, but probably not so large that it warrants, say, doubling market price.
All of the above holds this time again. Arb opportunity still exists, but requires getting the coins well below market. Will that happen? I strongly doubt it. Renewed volume across all exchanges, and several large buys of Secondmarket during the last weeks lead me to think the current price level is maybe not "stable" (nothing is ever stable in the banana republic of Bitcoin), but that it is at least as tempting to buy in at the current level than it was at the level during the previous auction, and probably more so.
Not sure how you got from "two participants [going] on record [with] lowball offers" to anything meaningful. If offers were made @$100 or even $20 per, would the statements be any different?
Lowball offer based on market price means market price times some value < 1.
The lower that value, the more arb profit. The closer that value to 1, the higher the chance you'll get a chance at arb profit.
If you think they submitted a $20 offers, sure, go ahead. I sure would have liked to see the meeting the bank lady had with her superiors afterwards.
What wraps it up is that one participant outbid all other participants on all lots. The previous auction converged around market price at the time, that's all I'm saying. I don't care if it was market +5% or market -5%, but my point is, from references to on-exchange market price plus auction mechanics and one winner of all lots, "near market" is a pretty conservative conclusion. Harping on about how it probably went away for a fraction sounds more like wishful thinking to me, tbh.
December 03, 2014, 09:11:41 AM
LOL, okay Citi says the coins are going to go for a steep discount, must sell all my coins, after all they are bitcoin experts
Which thought is correct?
(a) They should go for somewhat of a discount because it's an auction, and they are buying in bulk.
OR
(b) They should go for a bit over the current price because one couldn't simply buy that large amount of coins regularly without causing major slippage.
(c) They should keep doing what they're doing: Politely stifling their laughter.
*No one has answered my culinary question.
December 03, 2014, 09:07:59 AM
I finally did it, I Ignored NotLambchop. Damn that feels good, breath of fresh air for sure.
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I realize it's pleasant to ignore painful facts--but it's me who'll be wiping your snot and drying your tears when you [predictably] end up broke.
December 03, 2014, 09:05:13 AM
IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 03, 2014, 09:04:15 AM
Fucking broken logic, did a woman done came up with this?
So tell me, is it sexual frustration or financial frustration that makes you say sexist shit?
Fake edit: Probably both.
It was a joke
Relax kid!
But aren't jokes supposed to be funny?
December 03, 2014, 09:03:18 AM
LOL, okay Citi says the coins are going to go for a steep discount, must sell all my coins, after all they are bitcoin experts
Which thought is correct?
(a) They should go for somewhat of a discount because it's an auction, and they are buying in bulk.
OR
(b) They should go for a bit over the current price because one couldn't simply buy that large amount of coins regularly without causing major slippage.
December 03, 2014, 09:00:56 AM
December 03, 2014, 09:00:11 AM
To the uneducable few who are stubbornly holding the bag:
I won't abandon you, gentlemen, in your dark hour of need.
I feel somehow responsible for you hapless but loveable finance enthusiasts.
Rest assured, your meals shall be taken care of when you finally [and inevitably] end up in the gutter.
Quick question: I'm personally preparing Humble Pie Crow Surprise for your first [and only] course, am I doin' it right?
I won't abandon you, gentlemen, in your dark hour of need.
I feel somehow responsible for you hapless but loveable finance enthusiasts.
Rest assured, your meals shall be taken care of when you finally [and inevitably] end up in the gutter.
Quick question: I'm personally preparing Humble Pie Crow Surprise for your first [and only] course, am I doin' it right?
December 03, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
Fucking broken logic, did a woman done came up with this?
So tell me, is it sexual frustration or financial frustration that makes you say sexist shit?
Fake edit: Probably both.
It was a joke
Relax kid!
December 03, 2014, 08:58:03 AM
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I have a funny feeling Citi and the other "prospective bidders" are selling the story of bidding on the coins at a great discount in order to get the other bidder to low-ball the bid so they can get their coins at or just under market price.
No bidder would willingly show their hand, seems like a classic poker bluff to me.
I have a funny feeling Citi and the other "prospective bidders" are selling the story of bidding on the coins at a great discount in order to get the other bidder to low-ball the bid so they can get their coins at or just under market price.
No bidder would willingly show their hand, seems like a classic poker bluff to me.
Yeah, everyone's just dying to get at your precious
Yes, everyone including you and me... Because everyone's doing anything to get to some goal of getting n number of coins per day anyhow....
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