Anarchism has never existed in Western Culture because Christianity.
We have provided alternative religions to placate and suppress rebellious earthlings elsewhere.
~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
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October 24, 2014, 10:45:47 AM
We have provided alternative religions to placate and suppress rebellious earthlings elsewhere.
~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
October 24, 2014, 10:45:12 AM
Minimal state would do for example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism
their only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud, and that the only legitimate governmental institutions are the military, police, and courts. In the broadest sense, it also includes fire departments, prisons, the executive, and legislatures as legitimate government functions. Such states are generally called night-watchman states.
USA used to be a minimal state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism
their only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud, and that the only legitimate governmental institutions are the military, police, and courts. In the broadest sense, it also includes fire departments, prisons, the executive, and legislatures as legitimate government functions. Such states are generally called night-watchman states.
USA used to be a minimal state.
Quite frankly, I'd be happy if we could just *start* turning things back in the opposite direction. We can discuss what exactly are the appropriate levels of taxation and control but that is by-the-by. The issue is that such discussion is irrelevant. They have been increasing and there is no end in sight. Those driving this just keep acquiring more and more power.
October 24, 2014, 10:45:04 AM
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No mate. They don't have to convince consumers. That's the point. They'll never know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network just like people don't know anything about http works when they're surfing the web now. To the consumer, the infrastructure and methodology they use will be the same as it is now. There's no leap of faith they have to make.
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
No mate. They don't have to convince consumers. That's the point. They'll never know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network just like people don't know anything about http works when they're surfing the web now. To the consumer, the infrastructure and methodology they use will be the same as it is now. There's no leap of faith they have to make.
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
mmm, that sounds like ripple more or less.
October 24, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
Anarchism has never existed in Western Culture because Christianity.
European war of religion anyone ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion
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USA used to be a minimal state.
USA was never an Anarcho-capitalist state. Small government is fine, no government = unsustainable, quickly evolving a government or falling under an existing one [pwnge].USA used to be a minimal state.
A small government (minimal state) is what is needed before trying anything anarcho-something.
I am for a minimal state as defined as Minarchism.
When most governments will be minimal, we'll see what we can do.
you start with that and you end up with what we have today, because then you keep adding, for example education, health care.... the systems that we have today didnt just appear in one night, they are the outcome of development of centuries.
Yes, I also agree about changing some corrupt governments and improving things, but I don't think a free libertarian state is any kind of a help, in fact I think it will just make things worst.
Yes, I also agree about changing some corrupt governments and improving things, but I don't think a free libertarian state is any kind of a help, in fact I think it will just make things worst.
This is what we must fight. This is the perversion.
You don't get anything by being passive and submissive.
We must fight against corrupted obese government by shutting down the infinite free money generator : the banking system.
No social care bulshit is possible without the ability to print money !
October 24, 2014, 10:43:48 AM
this is why states and borders exist, and some kind of enforced regulation has to exist so people can live with each other.
Here's the problem - you're confusing yourself for humanity. That's called projection.Maybe you need enforced regulations in order to get along with other people. If so, that's a personal problem you should discuss with a competent psychotherapist.
Some of you have no fucking idea what freedom means, freedom is necessary but total freedom is CHAOS, regulations are meant for a reason... take Syria for example, watch how a lack of a government worked for these people.... take Iraq for another example, a total CHAOS, a government that cant do shit about losing territory to a terrorist organization that calls it self a state...
I would love to watch how your technological distributed libertarian state will work...
Minimal state would do for example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism
their only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud, and that the only legitimate governmental institutions are the military, police, and courts. In the broadest sense, it also includes fire departments, prisons, the executive, and legislatures as legitimate government functions. Such states are generally called night-watchman states.
USA used to be a minimal state.
you start with that and you end up with what we have today, because then you keep adding, for example education, health care.... the systems that we have today didnt just appear in one night, they are the outcome of development of centuries.
Yes, I also agree about changing some corrupt governments and improving things, but I don't think a free libertarian state is any kind of a help, in fact I think it will just make things worst.
October 24, 2014, 10:42:31 AM
No mate. They don't have to convince consumers. That's the point. They'll never know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network just like people don't know anything about http works when they're surfing the web now. To the consumer, the infrastructure and methodology they use will be the same as it is now. There's no leap of faith they have to make.
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
I don't really see a whole lot in there that explains why bitcoin will be so much better for your average consumer than credit cards.
Remittances for less than 1% cost as opposed to 10-15%. Not better? Really?
As far as I can tell, nowhere in that link is that mentioned.
It doesn't have to be. That's what it costs now. In a bitcoin-backed payments system there are tiny barriers to entry into the global remittances industry. A company providing payments services has hardly any costs. Competition will ensure wafer thin margins.
So I say there's not a whole lot in there that explains, and your defense of it is to say something that isn't in there?
It's implicit
These processors don't have a fraction of the costs they would have in the current system. Capital-based barriers to entry are almost non-existent. Anyone who meets AML/KYC and other regulatory rules can become a processor. Of course fees will tumble. I'm hardly engaging in fantasy here am I? It's common sense to me. October 24, 2014, 10:41:50 AM
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USA used to be a minimal state.
USA used to be a minimal state.
USA was never an Anarcho-capitalist state. Small government is fine, no government = unsustainable, quickly evolving a government or falling under an existing one [pwnge].
October 24, 2014, 10:40:25 AM
Stop worrying about the freedom of other people, just become free yourselves. You cannot change anything, so stop worrying. Stop trying to convince other people your method or theory of government will work for them, just disentangle yourself from the system you dislike and become free.
That´s the spirit
October 24, 2014, 10:39:48 AM
Anarchism has never existed in Western Culture because Christianity.
October 24, 2014, 10:38:40 AM
No mate. They don't have to convince consumers. That's the point. They'll never know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network just like people don't know anything about http works when they're surfing the web now. To the consumer, the infrastructure and methodology they use will be the same as it is now. There's no leap of faith they have to make.
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
I don't really see a whole lot in there that explains why bitcoin will be so much better for your average consumer than credit cards.
Remittances for less than 1% cost as opposed to 10-15%. Not better? Really?
As far as I can tell, nowhere in that link is that mentioned.
It doesn't have to be. That's what it costs now. In a bitcoin-backed payments system there are tiny barriers to entry into the global remittances industry. A company providing payments services has hardly any costs. Competition will ensure wafer thin margins.
So I say there's not a whole lot in there that explains, and your defense of it is to say something that isn't in there?
October 24, 2014, 10:37:05 AM
popcorn
October 24, 2014, 10:35:53 AM
this is why states and borders exist, and some kind of enforced regulation has to exist so people can live with each other.
Here's the problem - you're confusing yourself for humanity. That's called projection.Maybe you need enforced regulations in order to get along with other people. If so, that's a personal problem you should discuss with a competent psychotherapist.
Some of you have no fucking idea what freedom means, freedom is necessary but total freedom is CHAOS, regulations are meant for a reason... take Syria for example, watch how a lack of a government worked for these people.... take Iraq for another example, a total CHAOS, a government that cant do shit about losing territory to a terrorist organization that calls it self a state...
I would love to watch how your technological distributed libertarian state will work...
Minimal state would do for example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism
their only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud, and that the only legitimate governmental institutions are the military, police, and courts. In the broadest sense, it also includes fire departments, prisons, the executive, and legislatures as legitimate government functions. Such states are generally called night-watchman states.
USA used to be a minimal state.
October 24, 2014, 10:34:55 AM
No mate. They don't have to convince consumers. That's the point. They'll never know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network just like people don't know anything about http works when they're surfing the web now. To the consumer, the infrastructure and methodology they use will be the same as it is now. There's no leap of faith they have to make.
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
I don't really see a whole lot in there that explains why bitcoin will be so much better for your average consumer than credit cards.
Remittances for less than 1% cost as opposed to 10-15%. Not better? Really?
As far as I can tell, nowhere in that link is that mentioned.
It doesn't have to be. That's what it costs now. In a bitcoin-backed payments system there are tiny barriers to entry into the global remittances industry. A company providing payments services has hardly any costs. Competition will ensure wafer thin margins.
October 24, 2014, 10:33:28 AM
... We act like primates and are driven by the same desires as our other primate cousins...
TL;DR: Drop your pretences and devolve already.
October 24, 2014, 10:32:25 AM
...You cannot change anything, so stop worrying...
Your feed rations will be increased.
~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
I'm cutting for a fight, but thanks.
October 24, 2014, 10:31:54 AM
this is why states and borders exist, and some kind of enforced regulation has to exist so people can live with each other.
Here's the problem - you're confusing yourself for humanity. That's called projection.Maybe you need enforced regulations in order to get along with other people. If so, that's a personal problem you should discuss with a competent psychotherapist.
Yea, I have/had major issues getting along with people who have different visions and different life style that I didn't/don't agree with. thanks to the regulations that exists in my home country (Algeria) and here in EU I could still live with them, in other words I lived the CHAOS first hand between 1991-2000, so try to live in a system where having an Islamic orthodox fucking you up and slaughtering everyone against his vision then tell me how to get people to agree on something in a free of regulations state/world where you have many demographics, because you don't know shit about that, I lived it first hand.
Some of you have no fucking idea what freedom means, freedom is necessary but total freedom is CHAOS, regulations are meant for a reason... take Syria for example, watch how a lack of a government is working out for these people.... take Iraq for another example, a total CHAOS, they are losing territory to a terrorist organization that calls it self a state... because of the almost lack of government.
I would love to watch how your technological distributed libertarian state will work...
October 24, 2014, 10:31:40 AM
Stop worrying about the freedom of other people, just become free yourselves. You cannot change anything, so stop worrying. Stop trying to convince other people your method or theory of government will work for them, just disentangle yourself from the system you dislike and become free.
So true
It is a waste of time to complain about things that you cannot change.
It is just wrong to convince people of what you think is good for them.
I'm aware I'm doing the same thing, lol
October 24, 2014, 10:30:41 AM
No mate. They don't have to convince consumers. That's the point. They'll never know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network just like people don't know anything about http works when they're surfing the web now. To the consumer, the infrastructure and methodology they use will be the same as it is now. There's no leap of faith they have to make.
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
I don't really see a whole lot in there that explains why bitcoin will be so much better for your average consumer than credit cards.
Remittances for less than 1% cost as opposed to 10-15%. Not better? Really?
As far as I can tell, nowhere in that link is that mentioned.
October 24, 2014, 10:29:05 AM
...You cannot change anything, so stop worrying...
Your feed rations will be increased.
~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
October 24, 2014, 10:27:16 AM
Stop worrying about the freedom of other people, just become free yourselves. You cannot change anything, so stop worrying. Stop trying to convince other people your method or theory of government will work for them, just disentangle yourself from the system you dislike and become free.
So true
It is a waste of time to complain about things that you cannot change.
It is just wrong to convince people of what you think is good for them.
We are hard wired to see order and system. Even when there are none. The world is relying on that. The illusion of order is what keeps society structured.
The voice of wisdom !!
Order is an illusion.
Stop giving up your freedom for the illusion of security.
>"In 486, Gaul ceased to be a Roman state by the Franks at the Battle of Soissons. Almost immediately afterwards, Gaul came under the rule of the Merovingians, the first kings of France."
Stay clueless
Stay clueless
Don't try to look more retarded than what you are. There is no "France" in 486. This word has been created much later by historians. The idea of a state does not even exist.
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