Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 24913.

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Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:38:05 AM

Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.

FX has usually daily volatility around 0.5-1% and I would say this is quite low volatility compared to other assets, there are of course strong trend moves which can change rate 10-30% in a couple of months.

I would say VIX (volatility index) and it's derivatives (VXX, XIV, TVIX...) resemble the BTC crazy moves. When stock markets are in uptrend expect around 5% daily volatility, when in crashing mode 10-30% daily volatility is normal.

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Quote from: octaft on October 24, 2014, 05:59:11 AM

Quote from: lyth0s on October 24, 2014, 05:38:42 AM

once consumers have more of a reason to use it (as all of these projects develop).

I see this argument a lot, and my question is this: what, exactly, would give consumers more of a reason to use bitcoin for legal transactions over existing payment methods? What will these new projects do differently that will make it more attractive for the consumer?

The consumer won't even know they're using it. Gateways like Stripe, Apple Pay, Transferwise, Goldman Sachs, etc, etc will take care of that for them. The consumer will merely make payments like they always have - except at a fraction of the cost.

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Quote from: Gyrsur on October 24, 2014, 06:45:22 AM

Care to explain because those lines means nothing in TA terms...the only thing I can tell you is that the very long term chart, the 3 years one(1W candles) is looking very bearish, it indeed looks like a bubble that is bursting..

Most of you wont admit it, but another bubble highly unlikely wont happen, and if the downtrend continue based on the stage of a bubble by Jean-Paul Rodrigue double digits are a very good possible event that we can't really ignore.

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The fucking volume on okcoin + huobi + btcchina ...

Who can someone sane believe it is not manipulated ?

How to stop this shit ?

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:44:41 AM

Quote from: cbeast on October 24, 2014, 06:41:47 AM

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:40:46 AM

Quote from: cbeast on October 24, 2014, 06:39:21 AM

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:38:05 AM

Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.

Lottery tickets.

Seriously

Heh, penny stocks was taken. Also, it depends on how you view the question before or after the lottery.

Penny stocks have same volume?

I am still asking seriously.

Michael Milken made a fortune with his junk bonds and penny stocks. In the 1980's boiler rooms built the Wall Street nest of vipers we have today.
edit: I'm talking about asset classes. As far as individual assets, maybe BRK.A or military contracted industrials if you count stock splitting.

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Every morning a new dump to discover. Dammit

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Quote from: NotLambchop on October 24, 2014, 06:48:26 AM

Watup hoes?
[Good morning Bitcoin enthusiasts and finance aficionados!]

I kinda missed you.

<3

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Watup hoes?
[Good morning Bitcoin enthusiasts and finance aficionados!]

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Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206

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Quote from: cbeast on October 24, 2014, 06:41:47 AM

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:40:46 AM

Quote from: cbeast on October 24, 2014, 06:39:21 AM

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:38:05 AM

Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.

Lottery tickets.

Seriously

Heh, penny stocks was taken. Also, it depends on how you view the question before or after the lottery.

Penny stocks have same volume?

I am still asking seriously.

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:40:46 AM

Quote from: cbeast on October 24, 2014, 06:39:21 AM

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:38:05 AM

Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.

Lottery tickets.

Seriously

Heh, penny stocks was taken. Also, it depends on how you view the question before or after the lottery.

klee

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Quote from: cbeast on October 24, 2014, 06:39:21 AM

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:38:05 AM

Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.

Lottery tickets.

Seriously

cbeast

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:38:05 AM

Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.

Lottery tickets.

tarmi

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Quote from: klee on October 24, 2014, 06:38:05 AM

Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.

penny stocks.

klee

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Guys I have a question, especially for traders of other stuff (stocks, commodities, indices etc).

Which other asset has similar volatility in the same timeframe as Bitcoin? And with good volume?

I want wild price fluctuations in about the timeframes that BTC has (not so fast as forex).

Any ideas?

Help appreciated.

tarmi

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so, july pump postponed until the next spring?

cbeast

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

The old double-sneak bull-trap bear-reach-around pattern. I'm not afraid of the price falling, I'm afraid of what will be born in the Spring. Grin

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Quote from: octaft on October 24, 2014, 05:59:11 AM

My opinion is that bitcoin's huge flaw in regards to regular consumer usage is that two of its major benefits both work in favor of the merchant.

Can't reverse transactions: benefits the merchant, makes it harder for them to get ripped off, but easier for the consumer to be ripped off, or to force them to accept what could be an inferior product with no guarantee of a refund.

Much cheaper on fees: benefits the merchant. Consumers don't pay fees on credit cards or cash, anyway, except interest fees for CC's when you don't cover what you bought, but that's fair because you're borrowing money from the issuing bank. In fact, the consumer will see a fee where they wouldn't with other methods, as they have to pay the fee when they send the bitcoins.

I don't really see the issue on your first "flaw":
-When I need to RMA something I don't contact my creditcard company but the merchant.
-Merchant regulation ( example:The law in Belgium states things bought online can be returned for free up to 14 days after delivery no questions asked)
- Merchants offering the best return policies and the best trust ratings would be another tool to compete with the competition.

It's nothing a free market can't resolve on itself.

And cc fees are calculated into your purchasing price....

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