That seems perfectly reasonable if the goal is to manipulate the price downward.
It's gotta be ˙ɹſ ʎllıM
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August 31, 2014, 05:10:03 AM
That seems perfectly reasonable if the goal is to manipulate the price downward.
It's gotta be ˙ɹſ ʎllıM
August 31, 2014, 05:06:16 AM
guess you haven't read all my posts, i have point out too many problems bitcoin has right now,
you think i am always right because i have blind lucks? well, you are wrong and i am going to be right even more
you think i am always right because i have blind lucks? well, you are wrong and i am going to be right even more
People don't need to read all your posts, just the last one is enough, the rest is just the same bullshit.
The only thing you have pointed out, is that you have some serious problems, not bitcoin.
Nobody thinks you are always right, quite the opposite.
If you keep adjusting what you say and changing your thread titles, it's not hard to be right sometimes.
August 31, 2014, 04:59:33 AM
August 31, 2014, 04:58:48 AM
Note to self: stay the f**k away from BTC-e.
?? context plz
Check BTC-e on bitcoinwisdom. It looks like 2, maybe 3 or 4, bots battling it out. Their volume is insane, nearly all in small amounts. To me, it looks like something went haywire.
I find it extremely odd that the only time they post high volume is when they initiate a downward trend.
Something seems fishy...
That seems perfectly reasonable if the goal is to manipulate the price downward.
August 31, 2014, 04:56:30 AM
Obviously Fallling is a bit of a dick but the guy is honestly right more than any of you bulls are. Fallling why exactly do you troll so much and hate bitcoin is it because you honestly see no need for it? I finally made an account on here out of frustration because I guess I'm a "weak-hand". I buy 5 BTC a week ago because all the experts on here tell me we should start seeing some upward pressure but all I've seen is my money down the toilet and don't expect to see any actual gains any time soon. My knowledge of trading is very elementary but it appears most people's views on here are pretty out of touch with reality. Anytime you say "Cheap coins!?" because the price is dropping and then a week later it drops some more..well you messed up there didn't you because ya could have gotten them a tad bit cheaper.
There are basically to ways to invest:1) Buy when there is blood - you may catch a falling knife though
2) Buy in a rally (in the beginning, you should be able to tell when it is worth getting in) - you may get in late
Usually if you respect your fiat you choose 2)
If you invest what you can afford to lose you go with 1)
Don't accuse the 'experts' bro..
Klee - It seems that you are leaving out the dollar cost averaging practice, and implicitly suggesting that investors put all their money in at once or some variation of putting in all your money at once.
Otherwise, I do NOT disagree with you b/c it seems as if, here, 2collect is attempting to shirk responsibility for his/her own investment choices and decision-making... and it remains a bit irritating to be blamed b/c the price moved the opposite as expected (at least in the short-term)
I personally believe that dollar cost averaging is better.. so let's say that a person has $5k that he wants to invest. Accordingly, he should figure out a timeline to invest it (whether over a month or six months). Of course, if the market is shooting up, then he would have been best off to invest it all at once (but he does NOT know); however, if the market is volatile, then he is NOT so busy attempt to time the market and to catch the falling knife...
Either way, he's gotta ultimately take responsibility for his own plan and to own it, rather than to blame others - of course, unless he has an investment adviser, then he can blame the investment adviser. We, here, in this thread are NOT generally serving as investment advisers... at least I do NOT see my role in that regard... and I do NOT consider others as my investment advisers. Instead, I figure my own strategy and take responsibility for it, which 2 collect does NOT seem to be willing to take responsibility for his own investment decision(s).
That receipt of smaller returns is definitely the downside of DCA, but it works fairly well in a down trending market, so long as the market goes up later. DCA doesn't work as well in an up trending market, but could still work well b/c it lends piece of mind to investors who are somewhat risk averse and are disinclined towards overextending themselves.
August 31, 2014, 04:55:51 AM
Hanging off a cliff here...
I wouldn't even mind a nice dip to $400 at this point
I wouldn't even mind a nice dip to $400 at this point
And at 400 you wouldn't mind a dip to 300. At 300 you can smell the cheap coins at 200. At 200 why not go for 100 dollar coins. At 100 you will love the crash to 30. Imagine that man. All those cheap coins at 30!
But Bitcoin will reach 100,000 $ in 2 years!
August 31, 2014, 04:53:20 AM
Hanging off a cliff here...
I wouldn't even mind a nice dip to $400 at this point
I wouldn't even mind a nice dip to $400 at this point
And at 400 you wouldn't mind a dip to 300. At 300 you can smell the cheap coins at 200. At 200 why not go for 100 dollar coins. At 100 you will love the crash to 30. Imagine that man. All those cheap coins at 30!
August 31, 2014, 04:49:37 AM
GABI will be competing with PBP, SMBIT, Exante, and perhaps a few other bitcoin funds.
SMBIT (now with ~107'000 BTC) has not attracted any significant investment since May, and has actually shrunk a bit over the last month. Exante was started in 2011 and has some ~90'000 BTC, I don't know how it is evolving. I know nothing about the other funds.
The value of SMBIT's shares is pegged to the market price of BTC. Officially, they buy BTC when clients invest, sell BTC when clients liquidate, and make profit from fees. I suppose that the other funds work the same way, is that correct?
What is special about GABI that would convince someone to invest in GABI but not in the other funds?
SMBIT (now with ~107'000 BTC) has not attracted any significant investment since May, and has actually shrunk a bit over the last month. Exante was started in 2011 and has some ~90'000 BTC, I don't know how it is evolving. I know nothing about the other funds.
The value of SMBIT's shares is pegged to the market price of BTC. Officially, they buy BTC when clients invest, sell BTC when clients liquidate, and make profit from fees. I suppose that the other funds work the same way, is that correct?
What is special about GABI that would convince someone to invest in GABI but not in the other funds?
Doesn't GABI offer some potential tax haven ramifications? I though that tax haven was mentioned as one of its differentiating attributes.
I think it shelters the profits of the fund managers, but I recall reading that profits obtained by clients would be taxed by their respective governments anyway.
yours seems to be a more accurate depiction of the tax benefits... which would likely NOT cause any incentive for the customers to use GABI over some other service..... unless, it made the customers feel more secure that GABI is gonna stay put for the long term b/c they have a stable operational (governmental regulation) environment.
August 31, 2014, 04:48:11 AM
BTC-E is like OKCoin in march. Remember those bot battles back then.
I guess BTC-E don't pay fees on their own exchange... Maybe they got a large order from someone
I guess BTC-E don't pay fees on their own exchange... Maybe they got a large order from someone
August 31, 2014, 04:47:13 AM
August 31, 2014, 04:46:04 AM
Obviously Fallling is a bit of a dick but the guy is honestly right more than any of you bulls are. Fallling why exactly do you troll so much and hate bitcoin is it because you honestly see no need for it? I finally made an account on here out of frustration because I guess I'm a "weak-hand". I buy 5 BTC a week ago because all the experts on here tell me we should start seeing some upward pressure but all I've seen is my money down the toilet and don't expect to see any actual gains any time soon. My knowledge of trading is very elementary but it appears most people's views on here are pretty out of touch with reality. Anytime you say "Cheap coins!?" because the price is dropping and then a week later it drops some more..well you messed up there didn't you because ya could have gotten them a tad bit cheaper.
correct, they are just some bull scammers who are always fooling you to buy (TALK UP THE BTC) their bags so they can sell higher
just like what early adopters always trying to do in the ponzi scheme, promote to make new affiliates
August 31, 2014, 04:39:33 AM
A big hidden ask wall has been selling on Bfx for 6 hours at 500.27.
It was nice of him not to just dump.
It was nice of him not to just dump.
"nice" hahahahahaha..... They's too scared to just dump BTCs.. that is why they's be creating these invisible walls.
time to kiss $500 goodbye
Yeah... let's kiss $500 goodbye for the next half hour... bye, bye $500...
See you in half an hour.
half an hour huh? good luck to "TALK UP BTC"
August 31, 2014, 04:38:42 AM
Obviously Fallling is a bit of a dick but the guy is honestly right more than any of you bulls are. Fallling why exactly do you troll so much and hate bitcoin is it because you honestly see no need for it? I finally made an account on here out of frustration because I guess I'm a "weak-hand". I buy 5 BTC a week ago because all the experts on here tell me we should start seeing some upward pressure but all I've seen is my money down the toilet and don't expect to see any actual gains any time soon. My knowledge of trading is very elementary but it appears most people's views on here are pretty out of touch with reality. Anytime you say "Cheap coins!?" because the price is dropping and then a week later it drops some more..well you messed up there didn't you because ya could have gotten them a tad bit cheaper.
If you are relying upon general overall sentiments here in this thread and on this fourm, then you are likely going to be FUCKED!!!!
You should be figuring out how to buy within comfort levels that work for you. what is your risk tolerance what is your financial profile what is your timeline.. what are your other investments etc etc etc.
So for example, if you had $2800 to invest in BTC - one or two weeks ago, then maybe you would invest half.. and then wait and then invest a little more if the price drops... or figure out a way that was comfortable to you and to attempt to leverage against falling prices, in the event they were to occur.
There are almost NO bulls here that suggest that they really know what the market is going to do on a short term basis.
I am considered a bull, and I have been investing since November 2013.. when prices were at $1200. Currently, my average price per BTC in is about $607 per BTC. Yet I am NOT worried b/c I did NOT over invest from my total investment package and my personal goals. So hopefully, you did NOT over invest when you bought the 5 BTC.
If you think fallllling is so correct and you are already scared about BTC dropping somewhat, then you probably have over invested. Fallling does NOT really know what the fuck he is talking about... him and a few others who are just spouting off about the downfall of BTC.
In an overall bear market, trolls like fallllling are going to be correct.. but that does NOT mean that they know what the fuck they are talking about.
Anyhow, you sound a bit like a whiner.. and hopefully, you can figure out something comfortable in order that you do NOT panic sell.. but ultimately, that is up to you... currently, I continue to buy and to hodl... as do many of us who are perceived as bullish about BTC.
guess you haven't read all my posts, i have point out too many problems bitcoin has right now,
you think i am always right because i have blind lucks? well, you are wrong and i am going to be right even more
some points of my posts
goxed
51% pool (easy came easy gone easy return)
crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k)
no new money
governments warning and banning
scam IPOs many including Ethereum and others
everyone is selling / spending
Dell / Expedia / Newegg / House dealer / etc are selling in real time
Winklevoss ETF will actually be shot down
GABI is already priced in
Dubai exchange won't create any thing new
etc..
August 31, 2014, 04:38:09 AM
hi bulls!
btc-e will be the last exchange to fail, mark my words.
someone is cashing out his ltc position it seems.
420 next week.
btc-e will be the last exchange to fail, mark my words.
someone is cashing out his ltc position it seems.
420 next week.
August 31, 2014, 04:36:04 AM
So will everyone follow BTC-e , now that they have almost the highest volume?? I´m tired of the chinese anyway.
August 31, 2014, 04:34:05 AM
August 31, 2014, 04:27:13 AM
Anyone remember the bot on Gox that malfunctioned last year? Traders figured out how to manipulate it all night, pretty fun to watch. Not so much for its creator who lost thousands in trading fees.
I use an algo trader over at BTCe, no problems with the API. Just someone's spread bot gone haywire. Bad morning in the works for that guy.
I use an algo trader over at BTCe, no problems with the API. Just someone's spread bot gone haywire. Bad morning in the works for that guy.
August 31, 2014, 04:25:32 AM
Note to self: stay the f**k away from BTC-e.
?? context plz
oh the extreme change in volume going on .. hmmm looks strange indeed/
its like barfing large amount of small order back and forth at a similar price
Well, if they are engaging in a GOX-type activity (either trading coins they do NOT have or having their own bots manipulate the prices)
August 31, 2014, 04:23:25 AM
Note to self: stay the f**k away from BTC-e.
What's that supposed to mean? Stay away, why?
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