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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 26442. (Read 26731874 times)

legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000
Hey guys, it is my understanding that with the Bitfinex policy change that you can actually short more than you used to be able to AND the margin calls come slightly earlier. This would be a non-issue if we were still trending up, but keep a look out for this.

You used to be able to get effectively 3.33 leverage on a long by buying bitcoin and then longing with the bitcoin as collateral. However, that equation doesn't work out as unless you can short without a margin account (that I don't know!!!!! So somebody clean up this thought and in the meantime take this with a grain of salt).

On this point... it now says that I have a tradable balance, but it isn't letting me short any further -- it is cutting me off at the old 2.5 leverage mark despite the system showing the change.

=S

UPDATE... system caught up... was able to short all the way.

If you really are a newbie be careful with leverage. Most people (myself included) have been burned by the market whipsawing or hitting stops with huge unexpected moves. Bitcoin is scary volatile. Good luck! Smiley
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Hey guys, it is my understanding that with the Bitfinex policy change that you can actually short more than you used to be able to AND the margin calls come slightly earlier. This would be a non-issue if we were still trending up, but keep a look out for this.

You used to be able to get effectively 3.33 leverage on a long by buying bitcoin and then longing with the bitcoin as collateral. However, that equation doesn't work out as unless you can short without a margin account (that I don't know!!!!! So somebody clean up this thought and in the meantime take this with a grain of salt).

On this point... it now says that I have a tradable balance, but it isn't letting me short any further -- it is cutting me off at the old 2.5 leverage mark despite the system showing the change.

=S

UPDATE... system caught up... was able to short all the way.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Hey guys, it is my understanding that with the Bitfinex policy change that you can actually short more than you used to be able to AND the margin calls come slightly earlier. This would be a non-issue if we were still trending up, but keep a look out for this.

You used to be able to get effectively 3.33 leverage on a long by buying bitcoin and then longing with the bitcoin as collateral. However, that equation doesn't work out as unless you can short without a margin account (that I don't know!!!!! So somebody clean up this thought and in the meantime take this with a grain of salt).

On this point... it now says that I have a tradable balance, but it isn't letting me short any further -- it is cutting me off at the old 2.5 leverage mark despite the system showing the change.

=S
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
The recent low seems to be the fallback price of the miners. I doubt we will go lower than that as many miners must be mining at a loss already - with even more and more hashing power coming online shrinking their income.

Sellers don't care about miners.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1823
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legendary
Activity: 1870
Merit: 1023
I'm wondering if with the recent decline in LTC (and pretty much all alt-coins) if alt coins at an all-time low (for the past year or so) in terms of total crypto market share?  Is there any website that tracks that?

hero member
Activity: 491
Merit: 500
The recent low seems to be the fallback price of the miners. I doubt we will go lower than that as many miners must be mining at a loss already - with even more and more hashing power coming online shrinking their income.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000

LOL. bears/newbie trolls really trying hard on here last few days.

Oh yeah sure. I'll quote this over and over when we are at 95$.... NEXT WEEK

Why would we be? Has something fundamentally changed with the protocol? Has the US regulatory framework suddenly become hostile towards bitcoin? Has anything fundamentally bad occurred in the bitcoin news sphere?

The answer is no because this is technical selling and buying to take money from leveraged minnows and weak handed speculators like you Smiley

The only reason you are cheering on any price decline is so you can buy some for yourself. Admit it.
hero member
Activity: 504
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Moderator
Hodling my bag full of USD.

legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
Getting damn close to the previous low (August 14). Judging by volume, I don't think we're staying above. Could be the next wave of panic selling kicking in afterwards.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1009
Double bottom or bull trap?

I guess bull trap, but let's see
hero member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 597

are you bagholding too much xrp?  Lips sealed

dont see xrp suceeding, BTCD, just saying.  Wink

Yep, you don't see it. And when you see it you'll probably like those people knowing about bitcoin when it reached 1000$ and find that 400$ is cheap....

When you see it it's too late to enter the market =D

BETTER ENTER WHEN THERE IS NO HOPE

bitcoin is heading to HELL (which is far below 100$!)  anyway.

A Pro Bear! We need more here. You are welcome!
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145

are you bagholding too much xrp?  Lips sealed

dont see xrp suceeding, BTCD, just saying.  Wink

Yep, you don't see it. And when you see it you'll probably like those people knowing about bitcoin when it reached 1000$ and find that 400$ is cheap....

its ok if i have the chance to buy 95$ coins next week  Roll Eyes
donator
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
-Bitcoin & Ripple-

are you bagholding too much xrp?  Lips sealed

dont see xrp suceeding, BTCD, just saying.  Wink

Yep, you don't see it. And when you see it you'll probably like those people knowing about bitcoin when it reached 1000$ and find that 400$ is cheap....

When you see it it's too late to enter the market =D

BETTER ENTER WHEN THERE IS NO HOPE

bitcoin is heading to HELL (which is far below 100$!)  anyway.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145

LOL. bears/newbie trolls really trying hard on here last few days.

Oh yeah sure. I'll quote this over and over when we are at 95$.... NEXT WEEK

i will give you 1 btc if that happens next week, can quote me for this l0l
donator
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
-Bitcoin & Ripple-

LOL. bears/newbie trolls really trying hard on here last few days.

Oh yeah sure. I'll quote this over and over when we are at 95$.... NEXT WEEK
hero member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 597
Double bottom

Bear pennant to 100. Double bottom calling, without any reason. Hilarious Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
dump it down, i have orders from 400-450  Grin
you wish

(I do too Grin)

Who don't, everyone want price will going down to 400 and then recover from there so they will get huge profit.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145

This transition to supposedly 100% may NOT happen for 50 years or more... so in the meantime, BTC will NOT be everything.  And, really I doubt that BTC would completely take over every single aspect of currency.. maybe 80%... and I could give a ratt's ass that smart people think differently... b/c they are likely wrong about that point.. we have a lot of competing storage of values and currencies and transactional mechanisms... and that diversity will likely continue

We all know that Ripple will win the massive adoption race through bank adoption. The best thing to do right now is to buy as much XRP as you can and hold them until it explodes.

Basically it will cost you less than 12 000$ to buy 1/100000 of the network XRP capacity. With Jed new XRP selling commitments this is probably the best opportunity we have to own a significant part of the ripple network.


are you bagholding too much xrp?  Lips sealed

dont see xrp suceeding, BTCD, just saying.  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000

Why should anyone listen to a newbie with 12 posts?

This bear newbie is right. The bubble is popping. People start to understand that this level of price doesn't mean anything.


NEXT STEP ==> 100$ and below.

LOL. bears/newbie trolls really trying hard on here last few days.
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