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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 27142. (Read 26711601 times)

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WOW, LEAKED INFO ON BIDDERS FOR US MASHALL BITCOIN AUCTION


Barry Silbert, CEO for SecondMarket

Luther Lowe, director of public policy for Yelp

Malcolm Oluwasanmi, chairperson of Little Phoenix Investment Group

Fabrice Evangelista, quantitative arbitrage at BNP Paribas

Michal Handerhanm, co-founder and COO of Bitcoin Shop

Dave Goel, managing general partner of Matrix Capital Management

Dinuka Samarasinghe, investment professional

Chris DeMuth Jr., Wrangeley Capital

Fred Ehrsam, co-founder, Coinbase

Jonathan Disner, corporate counsel at DRW Trading Group

William Brindise, head investment manager at DigitalBTC

Michael Moro, director at SecondMarket

Jennifer R. Jacoby, lawyer at WilmerHale

Sam Lee, co-founder, Bitcoins Reserve

Avarus Corporation

PLUS YELP AND BNP Paribas (fourth largest bank in world)
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Sine secretum non libertas
What's up with the monkeys lately?

Some cheap BTC en route by the way.

my monkey wants me to buy them.
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Space Lord
What's up with the monkeys lately?

Some cheap BTC en route by the way.
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Trusted Bitcoiner
$4.8 million demand (unfulfilled) for USD swap at Bitfinex at the flexible rate (currently 0.19%/day and falling).  For long date ranges (20-30 days).  If they wanted short-term swap they could get it as $400k is available.

Somebody is trying to buy all the bitcoins!

someone needs to lend out 5 million dollars so we can go to the moon!
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Thug for life!
Who is noticing the large BTC orders appear on the Bitfinex walls only for them to be consumed within a split second before any non-exchange insider traders can react to them!? As if to give an illusion of support as Bitcoin begins it's crumbly grind down to find support at lower price levels........"ooooh, maybe I shouldn't sell cos look at those big 150 BTC orders at 605!!?"

Bitfinex paint the tape, and fake volume, and everyone knows that they do. Not that it matters in the bigger picture. Bitstamp will decide what the market does.

Try saying that again.. in a way that makes sense, preferably.

Hmmm. Made sense to me. I tend to agree that there is far more order book "manipulation" on BFX than any other exchange. Pretty see-through most of the time.

But Bitstamp has become near irrelevant. Huobi and OKcoin drive almost everything, and I've seen BFX nudge the Chinese exchanges as well (yesterday's run-up, for instance).
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$4.8 million demand (unfulfilled) for USD swap at Bitfinex at the flexible rate (currently 0.19%/day and falling).  For long date ranges (20-30 days).  If they wanted short-term swap they could get it as $400k is available.

Somebody is trying to buy all the bitcoins!
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Who is noticing the large BTC orders appear on the Bitfinex walls only for them to be consumed within a split second before any non-exchange insider traders can react to them!? As if to give an illusion of support as Bitcoin begins it's crumbly grind down to find support at lower price levels........"ooooh, maybe I shouldn't sell cos look at those big 150 BTC orders at 605!!?"

Bitfinex paint the tape, and fake volume, and everyone knows that they do. Not that it matters in the bigger picture. Bitstamp will decide what the market does.

Try saying that again.. in a way that makes sense, preferably.
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Thug for life!
I'm not seeing the bearish momentum develop. Seems no one is willing to take this down. Got nervous on a couple of these mini-dumps, but I'm pretty sure we'll take off to $630+ soon.
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Btw can you explain what you mean by monkey?
I have a monkey - not really a pet, more of an experimental laboratory animal - that throws darts, and I decide whether I want to take the trading recommendations which I derive from his dart throwing.  Sometimes he does well, sometimes less so, but in general he does better than any other monkey of my acquaintance.



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Btw can you explain what you mean by monkey?
I have a monkey - not really a pet, more of an experimental laboratory animal - that throws darts, and I decide whether I want to take the trading recommendations which I derive from his dart throwing.  Sometimes he does well, sometimes less so, but in general he does better than any other monkey of my acquaintance.
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It's a relatively little bowl. There's way more than one. It all adds up though.
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Bitcoin super bowl? I just checked and we arent at 1 million. why  Huh
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What a surprise. People are panicking again.

I don't think it is panic as much as a lot of people trying to recoup their losses from buying at the top of the market. 

There also seems to be quite a few heavy hitters waiting to take profits off the table each time we cross $600
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A little slippage this morning..I am still hoping that we can sustain above $600.   Psychologically $600 feels a lot better than $599...I don't know why, it just does.   Even though $1 is less that what most people would find in their couch cushions...
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What a surprise. People are panicking again.

Nothing new... People will get used to this and it will be dealt with much quicker.

Still at $600+ :3
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Who is noticing the large BTC orders appear on the Bitfinex walls only for them to be consumed within a split second before any non-exchange insider traders can react to them!? As if to give an illusion of support as Bitcoin begins it's crumbly grind down to find support at lower price levels........"ooooh, maybe I shouldn't sell cos look at those big 150 BTC orders at 605!!?"

Bitfinex paint the tape, and fake volume, and everyone knows that they do. Not that it matters in the bigger picture. Bitstamp will decide what the market does.
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the real good investment is Nxt.

My first rule when investing is not to invest funds with an obvious scammer.
I will respect that rule, even if the proposition appears attractive by all rational, objective criteria, because I have learned from hard experience that a truly corrupt person can think of more ways to steal money from people in the course of a pleasant spring afternoon than I could ever hope to imagine in a lifetime, not being trained to think in this manner.
(In fact I have gone to great lengths to train myself NOT to think in this manner, lest I should be tempted to pursue a particularly lovely idea at some point, elegant ideas being so dangerously, intrinsically compelling.)

Reality is not a stark as the terms I will use here.  
There is gray, there is color, and I describe things in black-and-white, polarizing terms.  
I do that to clarify and highlight the issues I consider dispositive.
You might consider other factors dispositive.

Nxt is a premine scam.  They generally end up like ripple, like bytecoin - most do not fare as well as those pathetic cases, in fact.  
I think that in a democratic society, or common law, people who perpetrate these things would be criminally sanctioned.
Nxt is a very good premine scam, better than ripple, even - far and away better than bytecoin.
Mussolini was an extremely good dictator, but that would not make me buy his soap.

Nxt doesn't have any actual reason to exist.  
There is nothing in the 2.0 apps which Nxt has now or in the pipe which requires creating a new currency.  
Therefore, the only function of the currency is to take money from suckers and give it to the founders.  
There are honest and accepted ways of capitalizing a venture, but they chose to use deceit instead.

I might scalp Nxt for a quick buck, but holding would actually enrich these people. who are morally incompetent, whether by idiocy or by criminality, so I won't do it.
Moreover, I can't construct a scenario in which Nxt retains long-term value.
It just doesn't add anything.
The Nxt software looks quite useful and good.
It will be reformulated to work without Nxt currency, if it demonstrates its value in practice.

The only good use of currency is for currency functions:  Exchange, transmission, and storage of value.
Currencies are not a way to lever a distributed database or transaction protocol into a tool for sucking money out of other people's pockets.

That said, you may do well in Nxt, if you time your entry and exit well.  
I would advise against it for both pecuniary and moral reasons.



Well, i do believe that there is a lot of value in a Proof of Stake currency, and that the asset exchange, the transparent forging and the possibility to trade in a decentralized way Nxt to other cryptocurrencies has a lot of value. Anyway i have good winnings for now in Nxt, both in fiat and BTC terms, so even if it goes to oblivion i would have no problem with that. I just think that even if the IPO can be debated and the 73 early adopters made a shit load of money, that does not make it a bad investment. In my opinion Nxt has more value than Blackcoin and any other POS currency the same way Bitcoin has more value than Litecoin and any other POW currency. The stash of Satoshi or the Gox coins do not matter much on a long term perspective.

Btw can you explain what you mean by monkey?
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