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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 27143. (Read 26711605 times)

legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
Less than 150 BTC standing in the way of < $600 right now. It looks like we'll be re-entering the downtrend for at least a few more days. This July ATH forecast is looking less and less likely.

monkey wants me to go long BTC today.

go figure.

i'm torn between the monkey and my lying eyes.

if it gets into the 580s on stamp, i will believe the monkey.

sr. member
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Less than 150 BTC standing in the way of < $600 right now. It looks like we'll be re-entering the downtrend for at least a few more days. This July ATH forecast is looking less and less likely.
sr. member
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fiat is going to the moon
LOL Your a half-full kind of guy aren't you?
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
the real good investment is Nxt.

My first rule when investing is not to invest funds with an obvious scammer.
I will respect that rule, even if the proposition appears attractive by all rational, objective criteria, because I have learned from hard experience that a truly corrupt person can think of more ways to steal money from people in the course of a pleasant spring afternoon than I could ever hope to imagine in a lifetime, not being trained to think in this manner.
(In fact I have gone to great lengths to train myself NOT to think in this manner, lest I should be tempted to pursue a particularly lovely idea at some point, elegant ideas being so dangerously, intrinsically compelling.)

Reality is not a stark as the terms I will use here.  
There is gray, there is color, and I describe things in black-and-white, polarizing terms.  
I do that to clarify and highlight the issues I consider dispositive.
You might consider other factors dispositive.

Nxt is a premine scam.  They generally end up like ripple, like bytecoin - most do not fare as well as those pathetic cases, in fact.  
I think that in a democratic society, or common law, people who perpetrate these things would be criminally sanctioned.
Nxt is a very good premine scam, better than ripple, even - far and away better than bytecoin.
Mussolini was an extremely good dictator, but that would not make me buy his soap.

Nxt doesn't have any actual reason to exist.  
There is nothing in the 2.0 apps which Nxt has now or in the pipe which requires creating a new currency.  
Therefore, the only function of the currency is to take money from suckers and give it to the founders.  
There are honest and accepted ways of capitalizing a venture, but they chose to use deceit instead.

I might scalp Nxt for a quick buck, but holding would actually enrich these people. who are morally incompetent, whether by idiocy or by criminality, so I won't do it.
Moreover, I can't construct a scenario in which Nxt retains long-term value.
It just doesn't add anything.
The Nxt software looks quite useful and good.
It will be reformulated to work without Nxt currency, if it demonstrates its value in practice.

The only good use of currency is for currency functions:  Exchange, transmission, and storage of value.
Currencies are not a way to lever a distributed database or transaction protocol into a tool for sucking money out of other people's pockets.

That said, you may do well in Nxt, if you time your entry and exit well.  
I would advise against it for both pecuniary and moral reasons.


hero member
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What a surprise. People are panicking again.
sr. member
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Finally going up up up
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What is a 'weak hand'? Why is this type of penny stock terminology used in bitcoin? Does this imply that bitcoin is some type of investment scheme to hold rather than a currency to use?
It's a poker term long before "penny stocks." It means you lack confidence in you ability to play.
So it's a profit making game and not the future of money?
Is money not about profit?
Bitcoin is supposed to be about creating a decentralized network to change the way the world does finance and payments - not about getting all the bitcoin participants to be rich off of the successive waves of bitcoin participants because the unit value rose and having a contest about who made the most profits.

I invested to make money and to be able to reach some goals ( the volatility makes it easier than working hard to earn that money Wink )... I literally don't give a fuck about the technology behind it, it is a cool innovation and all but I don't think it is a reason for to risk my life savings and be a "strong hand" when I could collect profits and not be a greedy bastard.... most of the time people here will attack you when you tell them that you are trading to make a profit or when you tell them you cashed out some of your holdings....



That is NOT why you were attacked.  You were attacked b/c you failed to articulate any plan that made sense to anyone beyond yourself.. and even then, NOT clear if it made sense.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-all-time-high-and-the-hoarding-theory-poll-included-656657
Once again you prove your random theories lead nowhere because you fail to understand what is the next step of development for Bitcoin and why Litecoin will be left behind because nobody who understands money cares about the second if it offers no significant advantage.
Your wife is like many people i have talked to who works in the payment system area, they fail to get the economic and monetary part of the cryptocurrencies, for them it is just another payment system.

Once again your astonishing earnings does not make you more intelligent and does not imply you understand better the implications of Bitcoin than most of us (this goes for Tera too).

Keep trying to reassure yourself by making polls that shows you a few minority gives you credit. And no, the risk is not necessary linked to the reward, that is academic theory but this assumption has proven to be flawed in many occurences. Buffet made a killing by not believing it. Bitcoin is volatile but not risky with an amazing drift, Litecoin is just a black hole which takes money from guys like you who have flawed thinking about Bitcoin.

Now we are south 0.016, the support at 0.017 has not hold and we had no bulltraps because there is nobody new in the cryptocurrencies to buy litecoins, the buyers are only guys like you who did not get the change in the altcoin's market. Now the new "Bitcoin dream" is Darkcoin, which will vanish like Litecoin but later, and the real good investment is Nxt.

Have fun with your Litecoin losses, repeating yourself that it is for a better reward.
legendary
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legendary
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https://primedao.eth.link/#/
I don't know much about tax, how would this affect me if I traded on plus500 as well?

Depends on your tax jurisdiction and its treatment of contracts for differences. In some places (UK amongst them) CFD's are treated as gambling and thus tax free.

Thank you.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
I don't know much about tax, how would this affect me if I traded on plus500 as well?

Depends on your tax jurisdiction and its treatment of contracts for differences. In some places (UK amongst them) CFD's are treated as gambling and thus tax free.

Whereas, in the U.S., where the government is composed entirely of (democratically elected) sadistic psychopaths, gambling gains are fully taxable, but offsets from gambling losses are strictly limited, and CFDs are criminalized.

True story.
hero member
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Space Lord
I just got tear in my eye when I was watching my 3rd video Bitcoin related ... (MultiBit tutorial) and I saw ... a price showing in the upper right corner of the Multibit app ...

"Market: MtGox price: $880" ...

a tear ... tear in my eye Smiley

We all miss MtGox, it was so much more fun when they were around. Let´s hope that they come back!

Bitfinex, judging its price, has some aspiration to reach that infamous status Cheesy
hero member
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I don't know much about tax, how would this affect me if I traded on plus500 as well?

Depends on your tax jurisdiction and its treatment of contracts for differences. In some places (UK amongst them) CFD's are treated as gambling and thus tax free.
hero member
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I just got tear in my eye when I was watching my 3rd video Bitcoin related ... (MultiBit tutorial) and I saw ... a price showing in the upper right corner of the Multibit app ...

"Market: MtGox price: $880" ...

a tear ... tear in my eye Smiley

We all miss MtGox, it was so much more fun when they were around. Let´s hope that they come back!
hero member
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Merit: 587
Space Lord
I just got tear in my eye when I was watching my 3rd video Bitcoin related ... (MultiBit tutorial) and I saw ... a price showing in the upper right corner of the Multibit app ...

"Market: MtGox price: $880" ...

a tear ... tear in my eye Smiley

Soon brother, soon... Paaaaanic buying! Now!
Maybe the Silkroad auction will end up being more expensive than they thought.
legendary
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I just got tear in my eye when I was watching my 3rd video Bitcoin related ... (MultiBit tutorial) and I saw ... a price showing in the upper right corner of the Multibit app ...

"Market: MtGox price: $880" ...

a tear ... tear in my eye Smiley
sr. member
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https://primedao.eth.link/#/
I wish I could trade futureBTC...
hero member
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Space Lord
I love having BTC over 600.  Anything in the high 500's just feels like it's bound to cave into the 550 support but above 600 it seems like it's about to take off.  Just psychological, non-TA.

Looks great so far! Now it's time to have a crazy summer and hit the ATH again.
By judging how it's looking now, we should be there any time soon, maybe a month, month and a half.
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