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I glimpsed >1000btc sell wall on stamp, at around 660! Not visible on bitcoinwisdom now

I really dont think this wall will be break today.

Me, too. Last couple days trading was anemic.
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someone put 1k market order in stamp.
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Does anyone have an updated chart with the overlays of the previous bubbles and the current line on it? I have no clue how to make one.

More important question is - why would every bubble look the same?
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Does anyone have an updated chart with the overlays of the previous bubbles and the current line on it? I have no clue how to make one.
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I glimpsed >1000btc sell wall on stamp, at around 660! Not visible on bitcoinwisdom now

I really dont think this wall will be break today.
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Bitcoinwisdom says there is a 1000 BTC ask wall at 660, bitcoinity doesn't see it however. Yes i refreshed bitcoinwisdom already..

edit: after 2 minutes bitcoinity finally picks it up.

Yeah, I saw it, too - on wisdom
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Whatever the direction this takes, it's going to be brutal

I personally don't think is will take a direction for a few days. Can easily see this consolidating until next week. Although we have been getting weekend pumps recently.
One funny dynamic that i noticed is that frequently, when people begin to describe a pattern, then that pattern NO longer will take place.  It is like someone is relying on people expecting a pattern, and then manipulate to change the pattern...

Maybe that comment is too conspiratorial, but I have seen several proclamations of patterns... that do NOT always play out too well.
Very likely. Bots and the methods they use have just about the biggest R and D budgets in software development and daytraders will be a prime target for them. Put a nice, clear pattern on the charts until a sizeable amount of money is following it and then turn it the wrong way, the daytraders have to get it right nearly every time but the whale only has to get it right once.

If a pattern exists, then it will be exploited in order to earn positive alpha (i.e., earn a profit in excess of what would be commensurate with the risk taken).  As it is natural to seek alpha, more and more money begins to exploit the pattern until it no longer exists!

In a perfectly-efficient market, alpha = 0 no matter how you allocate your capital.  Bots that exploit patterns make the market more efficient. 
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I glimpsed >1000btc sell wall on stamp, at around 660! Not visible on bitcoinwisdom now
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And here we go heading towards 650 again..

Patience, young grasshopper
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Prices are just about equal on Huobi, Stamp, and Okcoin right now...  That doesn't happen all that often
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And here we go heading towards 650 again..
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Whatever the direction this takes, it's going to be brutal

I personally don't think is will take a direction for a few days. Can easily see this consolidating until next week. Although we have been getting weekend pumps recently.


One funny dynamic that i noticed is that frequently, when people begin to describe a pattern, then that pattern NO longer will take place.  It is like someone is relying on people expecting a pattern, and then manipulate to change the pattern...

Maybe that comment is too conspiratorial, but I have seen several proclamations of patterns... that do NOT always play out too well.



Very likely. Bots and the methods they use have just about the biggest R and D budgets in software development and daytraders will be a prime target for them. Put a nice, clear pattern on the charts until a sizeable amount of money is following it and then turn it the wrong way, the daytraders have to get it right nearly every time but the whale only has to get it right once.

Sounds bad for us.

After the last rally I started noticing that, I assumed it might be due to almost everybody using generic bots using the same settings.
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Bitcoinwisdom says there is a 1000 BTC ask wall at 660, bitcoinity doesn't see it however. Yes i refreshed bitcoinwisdom already..

edit: after 2 minutes bitcoinity finally picks it up.
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Fake wall is back...

Srs guy, if you had just left it at $670 people might have had some "fear" that it was real, but when you follow market price +5 but less than +10 to the nearest 5, ITS OBVIOUSLY FAKE.

Maybe he genuinely wants to sell, and keeps behaving like this to make others think its a fake wall.

If he wanted to sell, why wouldn't he just keep the wall there and see if it gets eaten? Hard to unload 1300+ BTC in this manner, methinks.

He may want it to look fake so that when it goes up others think its fake anyway and eat it. Keeping it steady might have meant price not going up.

Just guessing, might be totally wrong Grin

Is the wall still there?
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Despite the upwards movement and general bullish sentiment, total bid sum on Stamp continues to stagnate around 11-12 million. http://coinorama.net/

Interesting...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Too bad I don't have the numbers before february 2014 Sad

By the way, Walsoraj, have you seen Jaroslaw lately ?
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Whatever the direction this takes, it's going to be brutal

I personally don't think is will take a direction for a few days. Can easily see this consolidating until next week. Although we have been getting weekend pumps recently.


One funny dynamic that i noticed is that frequently, when people begin to describe a pattern, then that pattern NO longer will take place.  It is like someone is relying on people expecting a pattern, and then manipulate to change the pattern...

Maybe that comment is too conspiratorial, but I have seen several proclamations of patterns... that do NOT always play out too well.



Very likely. Bots and the methods they use have just about the biggest R and D budgets in software development and daytraders will be a prime target for them. Put a nice, clear pattern on the charts until a sizeable amount of money is following it and then turn it the wrong way, the daytraders have to get it right nearly every time but the whale only has to get it right once.


Exactamente!!!
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Right. I guess that multi-sig implementation is the best example of how something useful and on which we all agree could be implemented into Bitcoin. Categorical true.

There is no community here except by extension.  Intensionally, that "community" is a bag of conflicting power nexii.  Everyone is there to fulfill their agenda.  For the most part that agenda involves some form of extortion.  You can meaningfully call the people allied to a single power nexus a community, but when the agendas are conflicting its hard two see how those nodes can be seen to be part of a single "community", which traditionally means people who have the common interests of a locale and live together in interactive cooperation, whether perforce or by choice.

Rather than say "anything that is missing" you could say "anything which a critical mass of the most advanced controllers of power constituencies find un-threatening and perhaps personally aggrandizing" can be added to Bitcoin.   In practice that is a very, very small universe of features.  It is a shrinking universe of features.  As market cap grows, and the existential threat to fiat systems starts to hit radar screens around the world, and the number of control points diminishes with increasing centralization, you can be sure that universe will shrink even more rapidly, and the reins that steer it will choose very different directions.







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...Metcalfe...exponential...

The N^2 approximation is called "quadratic".  The "exponential"  factor derives from modeling N = r*exp(t)+k, for some r and k.  N^2 is from metcalfe.  Thus the exponential component is not derived from metcalfe.

Thanks for that, and it probably remains fairly clear that I am mixing my mathematical concepts to make various points b/c I am NOT really very well studied in mathematical models (even though, frequently, I understand english and logic), and my point in bringing up both Metcalfe and exponential factor in one fell swoop was to indicate that the article that I was referring to in my earlier post (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7161808)  seemed to be deficient b/c it was talking about various mathematical concepts without discussing networking effect of bitcoin nor exponential growth dynamics that seem to be important in conceptualizing the growth of bitcoin.
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