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Quote from: adamstgBit on April 30, 2014, 04:40:00 PM

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trying to get me to run java code ah... no way! lol

idk man I think I'd rather wait 10 seconds then have to face that *lets cut everyone off because we want to get to where we are going* intersection

edit: ok if i save over 60 seconds it might be worth it.

Let me say I didn't manage to actually RUN the simulation. Chrome does not know Java is installed, tried installing it from Chrome's install link and nothing. Opera, Firefox and IE(!) know it's installed but is apparently blocked by some security setting SOMEWHERE because the code isn't signed. (IE didn't even know that, only reported SecurityException's). Found the option in Java settings (Control Panel, i know i know) and set it to "lowest" which apparently means only a allow/block prompt for unsigned code. Now none of the browsers is able to put the goddam parameters in the applet so I get some "height = 0" exception. What the fuck, man? Is Java completely dead like ActiveX already?

To each their own, that's 10 seconds (more in practice) for every intersection you ever drive through. It adds up. Also, I'm much more annoyed by traffic lights waiting than, say, crowded and slowish traffic.

EDIT: to continue the circle jerk with an actual example of real and not simulated traffic light masturbation

http://www.ziarmm.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/semafor-stupid-gold-plaza-baia-mare.jpg

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pretty sure this is it, in the next few hours 450 resistance will become support

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More traffic light porn: http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/19959187.jpg

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problem solved!

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Quote from: donut on April 30, 2014, 03:59:03 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on April 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM

Quote from: Richy_T on April 30, 2014, 03:31:44 PM

Quote from: Cassius on April 30, 2014, 10:30:34 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on April 30, 2014, 10:05:39 AM

pure example of why control and centralisation is useless and can be avoided with minimum harm:

http://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2014/04/pas-besoin-de-rond-point.gif

Blind luck? You can't really call a roundabout centralisation.
Not the best example of subsidiarity since I'm guessing quite a few people have ended up in hospital on that road. Just not in the ~20 frames of that gif.

Funny thing is, at least traffic is moving.

no this is stupid as shit

it would flow much better if organized

i can;t believe this shit

Actually, take a look at this: https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~aim/oldsim/

Play around with the simulation to get a feel for it.

Multiagent Traffic Management:
A Reservation-Based Intersection Control Mechanism

Traffic Light - cars must obey the traffic signals. Using this system, cars are delayed by an average of 9.45 seconds relative to how quickly they could travel without an intersection present.The traffic light has these parameters:

   Period: 30 seconds
   Alpha (fraction of period the light is green in the East/West direction): .45
   Beta (fraction of period the light is red in all directions between greens): .05

Reservation System - cars can reserve time slots in the intersection. The granularity of the reservation system for this simulation is 4 (i.e. the system consists of a 4 x 4 grid of reservation tiles). Using this system, cars are delayed an average of 0.076 seconds - significantly less than when using a traffic light.

tl;dr Decentralized autonomous traffic can be much more efficient than traffic lights.

trying to get me to run java code ah... no way! lol

idk man I think I'd rather wait 10 seconds then have to face that *lets cut everyone off because we want to get to where we are going* intersection

edit: ok if i save over 60 seconds it might be worth it.

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 30, 2014, 04:20:34 PM

in bitcoinwisdom, we can choose "candlestick" or "candlestickHLC" Does anyone know the difference? Coinhamster: you are saying that candlestickHLC is explanation 1, but then what is "candlestick"?

=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190722.300

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 30, 2014, 04:22:13 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 30, 2014, 04:06:29 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 30, 2014, 03:16:35 PM

trainspotting: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-30/train-derails-lynchburg-massive-fire-erupts-flames-stories-high

Thursday is traditional dump day. As it coincides with a commie holiday, we might see an early sale today. or a rally. I have no idea. Dyslexic workers of the world, Untie!

I don't really like that word, "commie" b/c it seems to carry with it a lot of unnecessary baggage... maybe it is my own negative experience that is tainting my reaction?

It's an intentional pejorative. Collectivism is fine as long as it's voluntary, but it almost never is. Most collectivists explicitly aim to gain enough power to forcibly impose their policies on everyone. In the name of freedom, of course.

There is NO real problem with making points and even exaggerating various points. However, frequently, I believe that exaggerated points are better made, if they are NOT strewn into SO MANY sentences....

Well, that may be your style... like YOU WANT TO WRITE in ALL CAPS.... he he he... Cheesy

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Quote from: donut on April 30, 2014, 03:59:03 PM

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tl;dr Decentralized autonomous traffic can be much more efficient than traffic lights.

Not sure I'm getting this^ Are you suggesting things were going fine, traffic was flowing perfectly, no accidents, and then ...people all over the globe decided "Must make traffic lights, that would be fun..." Orgone mind control by our Lizard Overlords?

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i gotta say im still quite convinced about that :

Quote from: donut on April 30, 2014, 03:59:03 PM

Decentralized autonomous traffic can be much more efficient than traffic lights.

you guys that seem not to agree didnt come up with as much material to support your point of view. Tongue

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Quote from: ChartBuddy on April 30, 2014, 04:00:51 PM

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very boring day for a bitcoin price isn't?

I was hoping for some rally

or at least other way - 420...

But nothing from those came to me.

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Quote from: elg on April 30, 2014, 01:16:18 PM

excuse for the noob question,

so a red candle on wisdom means more sell volume than buy volume?
and a red candle can be higher (than previous candles)due to a a higher sell price?

You may find this useful: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/crypto-forex-101-tutorial-gets-right-to-it-with-no-bs/2014/04/19

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 30, 2014, 04:06:29 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 30, 2014, 03:16:35 PM

trainspotting: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-30/train-derails-lynchburg-massive-fire-erupts-flames-stories-high

Thursday is traditional dump day. As it coincides with a commie holiday, we might see an early sale today. or a rally. I have no idea. Dyslexic workers of the world, Untie!

I don't really like that word, "commie" b/c it seems to carry with it a lot of unnecessary baggage... maybe it is my own negative experience that is tainting my reaction?

It's an intentional pejorative. Collectivism is fine as long as it's voluntary, but it almost never is. Most collectivists explicitly aim to gain enough power to forcibly impose their policies on everyone. In the name of freedom, of course.

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Quote from: CoinHamster on April 30, 2014, 02:57:08 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 30, 2014, 02:50:58 PM

Quote from: p0peji on April 30, 2014, 01:23:16 PM

Quote from: elg on April 30, 2014, 01:19:13 PM

Quote from: p0peji on April 30, 2014, 01:17:15 PM

Quote from: elg on April 30, 2014, 01:16:18 PM

excuse for the noob question,

so a red candle on wisdom means more sell volume than buy volume?
and a red candle can be higher (than previous candles)due to a a higher sell price?

Just means that the opening price was higher than the closing price, it has nothing to do with volume.

thx!
but the lenght of the candle has to do with the volume i suppose

No the body of the candle (the thick part) consists of the opening and closing price, the small sticks indicate the highest or lowest price during the time in which candle is formed.

I believe that I still do NOT really understand the candles.

Let's just take the 30 minute candle.

There is an entry price and an exit price for the 30 minute period. Yes, I understand that the length of the candle will reflect all the prices in which BTC traded during that 30 minutes.

Explanation 1: The candle will be red if the exit price is lower than the entrance price and the candle will be green if the exit price is higher than the entrance price.

Explanation 2: The candle will be green if buying outpaces selling during that period and red if selling out paces buying.

Regarding Explanation 1: If the thick part of the candles reflects the price entrance and exit points, sometimes the thick part of the candle does NOT seem to match with the supposed price entrance and exit points... b/c the exit of one candle does NOT match up with the entrance of the next candle or possibly with the entrance into the next candle after that... or the thick portion of the candle is just sitting aloof and not connected to either side.. Something seems to be wrong with my understanding of these candles b/c frequently the thick parts of the candles do NOT seem to match up.

Regarding Explanation 2: This seems more plausible b/c explanation 1 does NOT seem to pan out regarding the matching of the entrance and exit locations - the thick parts of the candles.

...for explanation 1 choose: "settings" - "CandlestickHLC"

in bitcoinwisdom, we can choose "candlestick" or "candlestickHLC" Does anyone know the difference? Coinhamster: you are saying that candlestickHLC is explanation 1, but then what is "candlestick"?

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 30, 2014, 03:16:35 PM

trainspotting: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-30/train-derails-lynchburg-massive-fire-erupts-flames-stories-high

Thursday is traditional dump day. As it coincides with a commie holiday, we might see an early sale today. or a rally. I have no idea. Dyslexic workers of the world, Untie!

I don't really like that word, "commie" b/c it seems to carry with it a lot of unnecessary baggage... maybe it is my own negative experience that is tainting my reaction?

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Quote from: adamstgBit on April 30, 2014, 03:42:48 PM

Quote from: Richy_T on April 30, 2014, 03:31:44 PM

Quote from: Cassius on April 30, 2014, 10:30:34 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on April 30, 2014, 10:05:39 AM

pure example of why control and centralisation is useless and can be avoided with minimum harm:

http://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2014/04/pas-besoin-de-rond-point.gif

Blind luck? You can't really call a roundabout centralisation.
Not the best example of subsidiarity since I'm guessing quite a few people have ended up in hospital on that road. Just not in the ~20 frames of that gif.

Funny thing is, at least traffic is moving.

no this is stupid as shit

it would flow much better if organized

i can;t believe this shit

Actually, take a look at this: https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~aim/oldsim/

Play around with the simulation to get a feel for it.

Multiagent Traffic Management:
A Reservation-Based Intersection Control Mechanism

Traffic Light - cars must obey the traffic signals. Using this system, cars are delayed by an average of 9.45 seconds relative to how quickly they could travel without an intersection present.The traffic light has these parameters:

   Period: 30 seconds
   Alpha (fraction of period the light is green in the East/West direction): .45
   Beta (fraction of period the light is red in all directions between greens): .05

Reservation System - cars can reserve time slots in the intersection. The granularity of the reservation system for this simulation is 4 (i.e. the system consists of a 4 x 4 grid of reservation tiles). Using this system, cars are delayed an average of 0.076 seconds - significantly less than when using a traffic light.

tl;dr Decentralized autonomous traffic can be much more efficient than traffic lights.

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Quote from: Richy_T on April 30, 2014, 03:31:44 PM

Quote from: Cassius on April 30, 2014, 10:30:34 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on April 30, 2014, 10:05:39 AM

pure example of why control and centralisation is useless and can be avoided with minimum harm:

http://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2014/04/pas-besoin-de-rond-point.gif

Blind luck? You can't really call a roundabout centralisation.
Not the best example of subsidiarity since I'm guessing quite a few people have ended up in hospital on that road. Just not in the ~20 frames of that gif.

Funny thing is, at least traffic is moving.

no this is stupid as shit

it would flow much better if organized

i can;t believe this shit

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Quote from: xulescu on April 30, 2014, 11:37:49 AM

1. People ignore >70% of traffic signs, and much more in the US where the sign spam is completely out of control.

Our road recently got signs 20ft in front of the stop signs to warn that the stop signs are coming up. Lack of visibility is not an issue.

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Quote from: Cassius on April 30, 2014, 10:30:34 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on April 30, 2014, 10:05:39 AM

pure example of why control and centralisation is useless and can be avoided with minimum harm:

http://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2014/04/pas-besoin-de-rond-point.gif

Blind luck? You can't really call a roundabout centralisation.
Not the best example of subsidiarity since I'm guessing quite a few people have ended up in hospital on that road. Just not in the ~20 frames of that gif.

Funny thing is, at least traffic is moving.

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