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sr. member
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Today something dawned on me:

We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.

Despair

Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo.

I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena.

$750 valuation based on what?

Ya based on what?

For me everything seems to be pointed toward $9.99
legendary
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Volume is incredibly low.  

I just encountered BlackCoin and I think it's a very interesting pump concept.  The coin switched from PoW to PoS.  Now the only way to mine it is indirectly, and to facilitate that, there is a multipool, bcmultipool.com, which mines scrypt alts, dumps for BTC, and buys BC with BTC.  It then pays out in BC.

The effect is that every 20-60 minutes there is a market order for BC.  The BC bid keeps going up.  Also, whatever scrypt is leading the return on difficulty gets dumped.   If enough miners decide to take payouts in BC in this way, BC would then drain the marketcap of all the scrypt coins.

I like this idea, because I think its good for BTC.  It's a layered market, and it reduces the fog of uncertainty regarding competitors by dumping and crushing the value of a large number of trash coins.  Not sure if it is actually an improvement over just switch-mining with BTC payout, though.  I might be.


But surely the fact that the last stage of Blackcoin mining is dumping the BTC, makes it not good for BTC? You get a big BTC dump whenever the blackcoin pools pay out. The more popular blackcoin gets, the bigger the hash, the more alt > btc mined, the bigger the BTC dumps. The value of blackcoin keeps rising, so few are buying straight back in to btc when they get paid. So the net result is more bitcoin getting dumped at current buy order.

I'm mining on blackcoinpool.com with 4.2MH and getting about 0.0034 btc worth or blackcoin a day, which is twice what I've been getting of pure btc on multipools. I also bought 10,000 blackcoin at 9000 satoshi, it's now at 30,000+ :/ I'm very wary of altcoins, but this has been incredible so far.

Oh I am sure that black will add some vol in the short run but srriously do you think anyone will hold the bulk of their wealth in blackcoin, which is completely unusable currency?  90% off black gets turned to btc.  The rest, the dumb money, is turned to fiat via btc.  (Numbers out of a hat.)  In the long run it adds holders, and it weakens all the scamcoins.

Blackcoin will have its use/purpose later.  The addition of coinkite will help.  

I've been a large holder even at its lows and I am blown away by the returns I have

I would also encourage you to buy more, but if your mining on the pool thats good enough
hero member
Activity: 574
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Today something dawned on me:

We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.

Despair

Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo.

I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena.

I think it is driven more simply by speculators, hodlers and commerce.  Speculators are here to make quick flips as it has shown due to the exciting new realities that bitcoin provides or many tout will provide. This new unknown is bringing waves of people that naturally force prices higher and even more so during times of extreme buying pressure.

Now as of late with lower volume and uncertainty coupled with an increased use of btc as a medium of payment @ online retailers and brick and mortar shops we're seeing an increased downward pressure, this isn't a long term issue as we're currently seeing the early adopters buy goods with their stashes instead of converting to fiat and then buying said goods. Not to mention the odd lambo and real estate sale.

So in conclusion there's going to be dips, there's going to be rallies till speculation isn't the leading factor to price discovery

legendary
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Today something dawned on me:

We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.

Despair

Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo.

I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena.

$750 valuation based on what?
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
he or she does NOT want to PM you b/c you write like you are 14 - nothing against 14 year olds.. but.

Can you make change for a 36?
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
pretty sure it is Sunday or it just finished an hr ago in China but you know what's great on sunday ... BACON

Bacon is great on any day.  Making me hungry just thinking about it.

Baconcoin.  The post-doge memecoin.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena.

That's about right, but you know how that works out.  We wont hang there for very long.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
pretty sure it is Sunday or it just finished an hr ago in China but you know what's great on sunday ... BACON

Bacon is great on any day.  Making me hungry just thinking about it.
legendary
Activity: 1470
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Today something dawned on me:

We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.

Despair

Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo.

I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena.

Not enough people, apparently.
legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 11416
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
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Sellers spin it up and Buyers spin it down...an idiot is someone who doesn't spin it at all.

You have a perverted sense of the world.  Maybe you have only engaged in internet relationships?

Interesting...so what exactly are you trying to sell me here?

He's spinning down. He must be trying to buy you something.

That's another way of putting it, but Aminorex, you may be too abstract for pjviitas - since s/he seems to have a more straight forward view of the way the world operates.
legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 11416
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Today something dawned on me:

We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.

Despair

Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo.

I think a lot of people are getting tired of the bullshit... and probably thinking that BTC prices should be more in line with the fundamentals.. in the $750-$850 arena.
sr. member
Activity: 299
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How awesome it would be if this was a successful retest of $340. 


My speculation about 'Infinite-fiat-whale strategy' :

- Break any further adoption
- Take over money supply by starving miners to death, depart weak hands from their coins as a side-effect. Do it for as long as it takes.
- Inject mass adoption

We have the technology, but they are in charge of adoption (sheeple mind control). We will see this $200 to $600 bouncing and nerve-wrecking sideway walk for a year ladies and gentlemen. Until they take over. A typical bitcoin whale wet dream: "I will sell them @10000 minimum" is nothing, but a delusion... They have all the time in the world - you don't. All that made possible  thanks to  ASICs ...

legendary
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legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 11416
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
How awesome it would be if this was a successful retest of $340. 

I thought that you said that you were back to being all in BTC?  Did you get into Fiat again at some time?
hero member
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pretty sure it is Sunday or it just finished an hr ago in China but you know what's great on sunday ... BACON
hero member
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How awesome it would be if this was a successful retest of $340. 

that would be good..  I see it happening.

I'm just feeling sorry for the people buy now on the way down Sad
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
Today something dawned on me:

We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.

Despair

Don't think so. "Apathy" is more like it, imo.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
Volume is incredibly low.  

I just encountered BlackCoin and I think it's a very interesting pump concept.  The coin switched from PoW to PoS.  Now the only way to mine it is indirectly, and to facilitate that, there is a multipool, bcmultipool.com, which mines scrypt alts, dumps for BTC, and buys BC with BTC.  It then pays out in BC.

The effect is that every 20-60 minutes there is a market order for BC.  The BC bid keeps going up.  Also, whatever scrypt is leading the return on difficulty gets dumped.   If enough miners decide to take payouts in BC in this way, BC would then drain the marketcap of all the scrypt coins.

I like this idea, because I think its good for BTC.  It's a layered market, and it reduces the fog of uncertainty regarding competitors by dumping and crushing the value of a large number of trash coins.  Not sure if it is actually an improvement over just switch-mining with BTC payout, though.  I might be.


But surely the fact that the last stage of Blackcoin mining is dumping the BTC, makes it not good for BTC? You get a big BTC dump whenever the blackcoin pools pay out. The more popular blackcoin gets, the bigger the hash, the more alt > btc mined, the bigger the BTC dumps. The value of blackcoin keeps rising, so few are buying straight back in to btc when they get paid. So the net result is more bitcoin getting dumped at current buy order.

I'm mining on blackcoinpool.com with 4.2MH and getting about 0.0034 btc worth or blackcoin a day, which is twice what I've been getting of pure btc on multipools. I also bought 10,000 blackcoin at 9000 satoshi, it's now at 30,000+ :/ I'm very wary of altcoins, but this has been incredible so far.

Oh I am sure that black will add some vol in the short run but srriously do you think anyone will hold the bulk of their wealth in blackcoin, which is completely unusable currency?  90% off black gets turned to btc.  The rest, the dumb money, is turned to fiat via btc.  (Numbers out of a hat.)  In the long run it adds holders, and it weakens all the scamcoins.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Today something dawned on me:

We can actually start seeing signs of "sellers' exhaustion" in volume and price action, but what is fascinating is that, different from the previous cycle, there is no sign yet of "buyers' appetite" re-appearing correspondingly.

Despair
hero member
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🐺Dogs for President🐺


You were sounding bullish yesterday!  when did you turn back to reality ? Cheesy

 Cheesy Cheesy Well my bullishness stopped 1 hour ago.

Welcome back from the brink Cheesy
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