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newbie
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Hey I'm new here, but I thought I'd go ahead and share my speculations.


As you can see, to me, it seems as if we may be in for a third "echo" (not repeat--as I've been told markets don't repeat, etc)
http://oi61.tinypic.com/oje520.jpg
source: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zl

(Please let me know if I'm breaking rules or something...I don't want to be disruptive!

You are doing the one thing everyone else is supposed to be doing!

+1 nice charts

Thanks guys, good to know I'm in the right place for this stuff!

If my speculations are at all accurate...I'm very much looking forward to the next few months  Wink


Thanks a lot for the projection bpnave!!   

I get the sense that many of us, here, are engaging in a kind of best guestimates of the future.. 


I see that you are projecting, more or less, a break out in the summer time-frame... (june or july-ish)

So my question is whether we expect to go above $1,200 at that point?  and then will we stay at some point in which the lows are higher than the previous high?    meaning that the lows would thereafter remain higher than $1200.  Surely, I get the sense that sufficient BTC infrastructure and networking around bitcoin is allowing for such price break outs and higher highs and higher lows... .which would also bring with it, less volatility.












Yeah, I think you're right. If it follows the previous patterns, we'll go far above and stay above $1,200, especially seeing as we're getting pretty darn logarithmic overall growth so far! Either we break that pattern, or things will start looking pretty incredible.
legendary
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Bitcoins are owned by evil people?  Well if we want to get philosophical about it, we all are sinners so I guess it could be true.  Wink


I worship Zeus, and to me, you christian sinners should all burn in hell rot in Hades.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
You are saying that situation 1 and situation 2 are clearly similar and that this should be the point of our discussion.. for me to supposedly need to defend why situation 2 is different from situation 1.  I think that it is illogical and silly for me to have to argue with some silly notion that these two situations are the same, when clearly, they are NOT the same - even though both situations make you feel the same way.. robbed.
I think the only possible germane difference is the party demanding the funds.




YES!!!!!     Germane and essential.  Creates a whole different set of facts, meanings and outcomes.  It is like having sex by oneself or with someone else.  In the second situation, with someone else, we complicated circumstances and the potential of making a baby.  The second situation is materially different from the first, even though the two situations may feel similar.




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A community acting to get you to pay your fair share contribution into the community is NOT the same as someone taking money from you

The critical terms here are "community" and "fair share".  If I can't opt out, it's not a community, its a gang.  

Again, reverting into bad logic when coming to the belief the community is ganging up on you.



Also, "fair share" is very much up for debate.  If the "community" decides that a "fair share" is 100%, are you cool with that?


Yes.  These kinds of discussions are had all of the time concerning fair share.  We have had times in fairly recent US history in which the marginal tax rate was more than 90% for the wealthiest among us.  There are various factors that go into considering tax rates, and maybe circumstances may require 100%, but likely very rare circumstances.  You are creating very extreme scenarios if you are suggesting that 100% would be or should be accepted as normal.  Personally, I am of the sense that the very wealthy in the american society (the top 1-5%) have NOT been paying their fair share of taxes, and that is a very significant reason why a large number of americans are currently being screwed and gouged in a variety of ways.  Also the very wealthy have been receiving various subsidies that they do NOT deserve... and are leaching off of the american people and that is also a very significant reason why a large number of americans are currently being screwed and gouged in a variety of ways.   



sr. member
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I miss Adamstgbit countdowns...
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner

yup
its offical.
i drew some lines
zyk
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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, or Finra, on Tuesday issued an investor alert on bitcoin, saying digital currencies are "more than a bit risky." The agency said the alert was intended to caution investors about the risks inherent in buying and using digital currencies like bitcoin. That includes risks from speculative trading and potential fraud related to bitcoin companies, the alert said. The move came after the collapse of the bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox in late February, which filed for bankruptcy in Japan and the U.S. said it lost customers' bitcoins. "Digital currency such as bitcoin is not legal tender," the Finra alert said, which also warned about the lack of safeguards in place for consumers, the irreversibility of bitcoin transactions, and its association with illegal activities.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/finra-alert-says-bitcoin-more-than-a-bit-risky-2014-03-11?reflink=MW_news_stmp

Thx FINRA. We were all unaware that bitcoin is a speculative investment.

Everyone here are also aware that most of the bitcoins are owned by anonymous people, who in all probability and considering the history, are drug dealers, computer crackers or confidence man. By trusting your wealth in bitcoin, you are trusting that this criminal element won't dump their coins to acquire your wealth as their own.

Why do you post here?

You sound like the annoying brat telling a group of smokers how bad it is for their health over and over. What's it to you? Light up or screw off.

Loooooooooooooool Cheesy

keep the revolution going!!!
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
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I am NOT opposed to change, and I am NOT opposed to lessening government or getting rid of it, in the event that better systems can be established.  Bitcoin can certainly assist in the direction of providing freedom to greater numbers of people and transparency to monetary and/or other transactional systems. 

This is nice to hear and I assure you I am trying to understand your position and have a good debate.

What bothers me now is your reaction to the idea of "taxation = theft". When this was mentioned you went into a rather angry tirade stating over and over again, that this concept is so ridiculous, that it shouldn't even be taken seriously, but nowhere have I seen you actually explain why. I think this is a hint to why we differ, even though I could put my signature below your quote up there. It seems that to you government = society (or a meaningful representation thereof). Which, incidentally to me represents a concept so absurd and obviously untrue, that it shouldn't even be taken seriously. I won't explain why, though. If queried, I will repeat again how ridiculous it is Wink

I think that on the face of the matter, your bare assertion that situation 1 and 2 are substantially similar is  illogical,  incomprehensible and unworthy or serious discussion...  Even though the two situations may appear to be similar, they are NOT.. which should be obvious and clear on the face.  I think that i adequately explained this over and over and in sufficient detail without having to have the need to elaborate about the obvious, and I do NOT see the point of continuing such a silly-ass discussions if some people continue to think and to argue that taxes and thievery are the same things.... b/c posters like this are living in a sort of parallel reality of LaLa land and a simplistic world to be making such basic assertions to attempt to equate situations that are clearly NOT the same.... even though they "feel the same."  

And this after you put taxation and theft side by side and basically described them in the same words? I am inclined to believe now that you are trolling in some sophisticated manner, otherwise this huge overreaction would seem to me to be the defense mechanism of a very dearly held dogma.

legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Hey I'm new here, but I thought I'd go ahead and share my speculations.


As you can see, to me, it seems as if we may be in for a third "echo" (not repeat--as I've been told markets don't repeat, etc)
http://oi61.tinypic.com/oje520.jpg
source: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zl

(Please let me know if I'm breaking rules or something...I don't want to be disruptive!

You are doing the one thing everyone else is supposed to be doing!

+1 nice charts

Thanks guys, good to know I'm in the right place for this stuff!

If my speculations are at all accurate...I'm very much looking forward to the next few months  Wink


Thanks a lot for the projection bpnave!!   

I get the sense that many of us, here, are engaging in a kind of best guestimates of the future.. 


I see that you are projecting, more or less, a break out in the summer time-frame... (june or july-ish)

So my question is whether we expect to go above $1,200 at that point?  and then will we stay at some point in which the lows are higher than the previous high?    meaning that the lows would thereafter remain higher than $1200.  Surely, I get the sense that sufficient BTC infrastructure and networking around bitcoin is allowing for such price break outs and higher highs and higher lows... .which would also bring with it, less volatility.










legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
You are saying that situation 1 and situation 2 are clearly similar and that this should be the point of our discussion.. for me to supposedly need to defend why situation 2 is different from situation 1.  I think that it is illogical and silly for me to have to argue with some silly notion that these two situations are the same, when clearly, they are NOT the same - even though both situations make you feel the same way.. robbed.
I think the only possible germane difference is the party demanding the funds.

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A community acting to get you to pay your fair share contribution into the community is NOT the same as someone taking money from you

The critical terms here are "community" and "fair share".  If I can't opt out, it's not a community, its a gang.  Also, "fair share" is very much up for debate.  If the "community" decides that a "fair share" is 100%, are you cool with that?
legendary
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100 satoshis -> ISO code
hero member
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Yes. So anything above $600 in April is a breakout?


It looks as if we may breakout before. Below 600 would be a bearish option.

Should've changed it to "flying saucer reversal formation." Cheesy
newbie
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Hey I'm new here, but I thought I'd go ahead and share my speculations.


As you can see, to me, it seems as if we may be in for a third "echo" (not repeat--as I've been told markets don't repeat, etc)
http://oi61.tinypic.com/oje520.jpg
source: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zl

(Please let me know if I'm breaking rules or something...I don't want to be disruptive!

You are doing the one thing everyone else is supposed to be doing!

+1 nice charts

Thanks guys, good to know I'm in the right place for this stuff!

If my speculations are at all accurate...I'm very much looking forward to the next few months  Wink
hero member
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Good thing I waited for 1 day MACD as a sell signal.
legendary
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Hey I'm new here, but I thought I'd go ahead and share my speculations.


As you can see, to me, it seems as if we may be in for a third "echo" (not repeat--as I've been told markets don't repeat, etc)
http://oi61.tinypic.com/oje520.jpg
source: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zl

(Please let me know if I'm breaking rules or something...I don't want to be disruptive!

You are doing the one thing everyone else is supposed to be doing!

+1 nice charts
legendary
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legendary
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Hey I'm new here, but I thought I'd go ahead and share my speculations.


As you can see, to me, it seems as if we may be in for a third "echo" (not repeat--as I've been told markets don't repeat, etc)

source: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zl

(Please let me know if I'm breaking rules or something...I don't want to be disruptive!

You are doing the one thing everyone else is supposed to be doing!
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 11299
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
this summer might make me a millionaire Smiley


In the ball park,  how many coins do you believe it will require to accomplish being a bitcoin millionaire by this summer?  100? 200? 500? or some other quantity?

In the most optimistic scenario, I could see the potential of 200 coins making a person a bitcoin millionaire by this summer - however, I have visionary trouble with predictions of any fewer than 200BTC  accomplishing the millionaire objective by this summer.

Based on what I know at the moment, that's my lame prediction of a best case scenario for this upcoming summer.

legendary
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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, or Finra, on Tuesday issued an investor alert on bitcoin, saying digital currencies are "more than a bit risky." The agency said the alert was intended to caution investors about the risks inherent in buying and using digital currencies like bitcoin. That includes risks from speculative trading and potential fraud related to bitcoin companies, the alert said. The move came after the collapse of the bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox in late February, which filed for bankruptcy in Japan and the U.S. said it lost customers' bitcoins. "Digital currency such as bitcoin is not legal tender," the Finra alert said, which also warned about the lack of safeguards in place for consumers, the irreversibility of bitcoin transactions, and its association with illegal activities.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/finra-alert-says-bitcoin-more-than-a-bit-risky-2014-03-11?reflink=MW_news_stmp

Thx FINRA. We were all unaware that bitcoin is a speculative investment.

Everyone here are also aware that most of the bitcoins are owned by anonymous people, who in all probability and considering the history, are drug dealers, computer crackers or confidence man. By trusting your wealth in bitcoin, you are trusting that this criminal element won't dump their coins to acquire your wealth as their own.

Bitcooins are EVIIIIIIIIl, evil i tell you!

Witches and goblins own bitcoins, they are the spawn of the devil himself!

Gees, could you get anymore melodramatic? Most of the early anonymous people are nothing like you think ... the criminal element was late to the party and looks like the real criminals, wall st., regulators and others are just showing up now ... you're arriving in the best company it seems.

How's those sour grapes working out for ya? I heard they play hell on the gutz if you keep scoffing them, ulcers, IBS, all of that ...

Bitcoins are owned by evil people?  Well if we want to get philosophical about it, we all are sinners so I guess it could be true.  Wink

But Bitcoin, like cash, can be used for good or evil in the world and I like to think it is less evil than the bankers and governments that control our money now.
newbie
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Hey I'm new here, but I thought I'd go ahead and share my speculations.


As you can see, to me, it seems as if we may be in for a third "echo" (not repeat--as I've been told markets don't repeat, etc)
http://oi61.tinypic.com/oje520.jpg
source: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zl

After the rise ends, you have your slump, your hump, your re-rise, a level area, and then a very large rise.

As I am completely new to a lot of this stuff, I have no real idea if any of this is viable, it's just a pattern I noticed. And we seem to be right in the beginning stages of the re-rise, as it always seems to have that initial down trend at the very beginning.

What are your thoughts?

(Please let me know if I'm breaking rules or something...I don't want to be disruptive!)
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