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I am NOT opposed to change, and I am NOT opposed to lessening government or getting rid of it, in the event that better systems can be established. Bitcoin can certainly assist in the direction of providing freedom to greater numbers of people and transparency to monetary and/or other transactional systems.
This is nice to hear and I assure you I am trying to understand your position and have a good debate.
What bothers me now is your reaction to the idea of "taxation = theft". When this was mentioned you went into a rather angry tirade stating over and over again, that this concept is so ridiculous, that it shouldn't even be taken seriously, but nowhere have I seen you actually explain why. I think this is a hint to why we differ, even though I could put my signature below your quote up there. It seems that to you government = society (or a meaningful representation thereof). Which, incidentally to me represents a concept so absurd and obviously untrue, that it shouldn't even be taken seriously. I won't explain why, though. If queried, I will repeat again how ridiculous it is
Yes, if the topic of this thread concerned the role of government in society or some discussion such as that (or how to transform to a government society), then I would be more than willing to engage in such discussion, if I had the stomache to be involved in such a thread.
Surely, a variety of topics may come up in a thread, and the discussion of such topics spiral much further away from the thread. Here, I believe that I have sufficiently explained my concerns about attempts to equate theft with the government as being inadequate at best and silly at worst....
Likely, the topic of taxation or the role of government may come up again, and we can discuss further at that time. Why do we need to belabor points that clearly have been adequately addressed? and if we either do NOT understand each others points or we do NOT agree, then we can still move on b/c I feel that I am just repeating myself, and I do NOT feel that I have any obligation to explain my position any further than I already have explained.
I think that on the face of the matter, your bare assertion that situation 1 and 2 are substantially similar is illogical, incomprehensible and unworthy or serious discussion... Even though the two situations may appear to be similar, they are NOT.. which should be obvious and clear on the face. I think that i adequately explained this over and over and in sufficient detail without having to have the need to elaborate about the obvious, and I do NOT see the point of continuing such a silly-ass discussions if some people continue to think and to argue that taxes and thievery are the same things.... b/c posters like this are living in a sort of parallel reality of LaLa land and a simplistic world to be making such basic assertions to attempt to equate situations that are clearly NOT the same.... even though they "feel the same."
And this after you put taxation and theft side by side and basically described them in the same words?
I am inclined to believe now that you are trolling in some sophisticated manner, otherwise this huge overreaction would seem to me to be the defense mechanism of a very dearly held dogma.
You can believe that I am trolling all that you want, but such beliefs are ill founded. I provided explanations for my various assertions, and the fact that you don't agree with my assertions or you do NOT understand my points does NOT a troll make.
Yes, I recognize that in the bitcoin community there are a lot of people who are hostile to the concept of government and hostile to the idea of taxation. I am of the belief that it is pie in the sky for people to believe that in the short term bitcoin is going to allow for major transformations in these regards to either get rid of government or to get rid of taxation. However, I do recognize that bitcoin has a lot of potential to transform society in a lot of meaningful ways, including but NOT limited to transforming government, taxation, individual liberties and transparency.
I thought that fact was very sad too, until I opened up the attachment and saw that he had e-mailed 41.7 million of his closest friends.. something like that. He is one popular dude to have that many close friends. I did NOT get an e-mail, so I am NOT in such intimacy with him.
.......common sense: those who print need to be at least made known of the guillotines awaiting them !! 
