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But I thought you sent your Mtgox BTC to Josh and Josh also holds all the real BTC. The Mtgox BTC and real BTC stays with him until you withdraw like an exchange.
I think you're right, after reading his FAQ.  I do not understand Gox (never having used it) so it is not surprising that I do not understand how he can hold the goxcoin.  Do they have a c2c xfer system?


I think I understand this now. Basically if Mtgox dies, he shouldn't have to take any of the responsibility, but all that fake Mtgox BTC will be with him when it does goes down (unless buyer asked for it to be delivered to their Mtgox account.) Even though it shouldn't matter since it's all gone and he would have delivered it if he had the possibility, there may still be a legal risk to him. :/

Basically he found a way to send Mtgox BTC to verified accounts. I'm not even sure if you can get your Mtgox BTC back if you don't have a verified Mtgox account.

Everyone can send Gox-Btc from one mtgox account to another account ,internally.  This is still still working.
Mtgox being insolvent, Josh can instantly send the gox-coin to the respective gox addresses , unless the website goes down.

Yes. I guess it wouldn't matter if Josh had the Mtgox coins or you did if the website goes down. It will technically be worth $0.
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RicePicker
You know when the price on Gox reaches zero that they will not owe anything to anyone?


This should not be possible, or can people place bids for 0 dollar?

Not when you are trading Goxcoins.
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What was the release time for the previous update ?

7PM JPS ?
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You know when the price on Gox reaches zero that they will not owe anything to anyone?


This should not be possible, or can people place bids for 0 dollar?
legendary
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You know when the price on Gox reaches zero that they will not owe anything to anyone?

LOL. Hadn't thought of that.
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Hodling since 2011.®
You know when the price on Gox reaches zero that they will not owe anything to anyone?
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Sine secretum non libertas
The new Gox digs are quite high-end.  Definitely an upgrade.
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But I thought you sent your Mtgox BTC to Josh and Josh also holds all the real BTC. The Mtgox BTC and real BTC stays with him until you withdraw like an exchange.
I think you're right, after reading his FAQ.  I do not understand Gox (never having used it) so it is not surprising that I do not understand how he can hold the goxcoin.  Do they have a c2c xfer system?


I think I understand this now. Basically if Mtgox dies, he shouldn't have to take any of the responsibility, but all that fake Mtgox BTC will be with him when it does goes down (unless buyer asked for it to be delivered to their Mtgox account.) Even though it shouldn't matter since it's all gone and he would have delivered it if he had the possibility, there may still be a legal risk to him. :/

Basically he found a way to send Mtgox BTC to verified accounts. I'm not even sure if you can get your Mtgox BTC back if you don't have a verified Mtgox account.

Everyone can send Gox-Btc from one mtgox account to another account ,internally.  This is still still working.
Mtgox being insolvent, Josh can instantly send the gox-coin to the respective gox addresses , unless the website goes down.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas

I wish I'd known the extent to which people were capable of panicking, I'd have held out longer before converting to GoxCoin.

This is truly amazing.

Truly.  That's why you want to wait until after the turn, rather than trying to guess before the turn.  You still get whipsawed, but not *quite* as much, and that can make all the difference.
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But I thought you sent your Mtgox BTC to Josh and Josh also holds all the real BTC. The Mtgox BTC and real BTC stays with him until you withdraw like an exchange.
I think you're right, after reading his FAQ.  I do not understand Gox (never having used it) so it is not surprising that I do not understand how he can hold the goxcoin.  Do they have a c2c xfer system?

Bitcoin-withdrawals to a Gox-deposit-address work normally. Gox detects one of their own addresses in the withdrawal request and updates the balance in their database, keeping the transaction off-chain.

So for the bitcoinbuilder site, you withdraw your GoxBTC to a deposit-address belonging to bitcoinbuilder, after which it's credited to your bitcoinbuilder account. Withdrawals work the other way around, bitcoinbuilder withdraws to your Gox-deposit-address.

RealBTC deposits and withdrawals work in the normal way.
Kj1
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I want some cheap coins at stamp, comon!
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Why is everyone freaking out? They will fix the bug and continue business as usual... I don't see any reason for these conspiracy theories. MagicalTux can not steal the money as he is publicly known and has no place to hide... Except of that he had enough opportunities to run with the money already and hasn't done it.

You are watching an amazing social experiment in the power of group dynamics. Worry, fear and doubt can spread like a virus.

I wish I'd known the extent to which people were capable of panicking, I'd have held out longer before converting to GoxCoin.

This is truly amazing.

Same here bud
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
Why is everyone freaking out? They will fix the bug and continue business as usual... I don't see any reason for these conspiracy theories. MagicalTux can not steal the money as he is publicly known and has no place to hide... Except of that he had enough opportunities to run with the money already and hasn't done it.

You are watching an amazing social experiment in the power of group dynamics. Worry, fear and doubt can spread like a virus.

I wish I'd known the extent to which people were capable of panicking, I'd have held out longer before converting to GoxCoin.

This is truly amazing.

Seriously, $20000 in the hole and

hero member
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But I thought you sent your Mtgox BTC to Josh and Josh also holds all the real BTC. The Mtgox BTC and real BTC stays with him until you withdraw like an exchange.
I think you're right, after reading his FAQ.  I do not understand Gox (never having used it) so it is not surprising that I do not understand how he can hold the goxcoin.  Do they have a c2c xfer system?


I think I understand this now. Basically if Mtgox dies, he shouldn't have to take any of the responsibility, but all that fake Mtgox BTC will be with him when it does goes down (unless buyer asked for it to be delivered to their Mtgox account.) Even though it shouldn't matter since it's all gone and he would have delivered it if he had the opportunity, there may still be a legal risk to him. :/

Basically he found a way to send Mtgox BTC to verified accounts. I'm not even sure if you can get your Mtgox BTC back if you don't have a verified Mtgox account.
legendary
Activity: 2156
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Why is everyone freaking out? They will fix the bug and continue business as usual... I don't see any reason for these conspiracy theories. MagicalTux can not steal the money as he is publicly known and has no place to hide... Except of that he had enough opportunities to run with the money already and hasn't done it.

You are watching an amazing social experiment in the power of group dynamics. Worry, fear and doubt can spread like a virus.
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Why is everyone freaking out? They will fix the bug and continue business as usual... I don't see any reason for these conspiracy theories. MagicalTux can not steal the money as he is publicly known and has no place to hide... Except of that he had enough opportunities to run with the money already and hasn't done it.
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