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ChartBuddy seems lonely.  Hi ChartBuddy.  Smiley

i have chartbuddy on /ignore.....some days he is sunny and happy and up other days he is grumpy and down

can't handle the drama

so i put him on ignore

Searing
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ChartBuddy seems lonely.  Hi ChartBuddy.  Smiley
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this is BITCOINtalk.org, not Dogecointalk. You fuckers are just being rude. I don't go to your house, piss in the flowerpot and shit on your rug. Please do us the same courtesy. You have your own, threads, your own subforum, your own reddit. use them and leave us alone. We don't want you here. You are like juveniles. you missed the early adopter phase and you think it's unfair. tough shit. life ain't fair. It'll be even less fair when your shitcoin tanks but I won't invade your space and gloat about it cuz, you know, I'm better than you. Now do me the favor of fucking off and possibly dying, but that last part is up to you. Thanks.

Excellent (and justified) rant.  Bravo.
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Sure seems like someone is trying to manipulate the market.   Lots of 0.01 and now many trades for way below ask.  

Everybody wants to rule the world.

The minimum size trades are usually there to probe for dark liquidity.  Folks (bots and punters alike) want to know if there's a hoard they can snatch in order to move their order ticket without market slippage.

It's really nothing to get in a lather about.  Wherever there are hidden orders, there will be probes.  

I do wish the price charts would show liquidity isoquants, though.  Nobody usually cares what the price is at which you can move 0.01 bitcoin.



Ahhhhhh.  Makes total sense.   Thanks for that.  They're probing for dark order boundaries.  Clever.  Bitstamp should offer a feature to not sell "dark" orders for below a certain BTC trade amount, or better yet we can come up with a way to trick the probes for fun and giggles.

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this is BITCOINtalk.org, not Dogecointalk. You fuckers are just being rude. I don't go to your house, piss in the flowerpot and shit on your rug. Please do us the same courtesy. You have your own, threads, your own subforum, your own reddit. use them and leave us alone. We don't want you here. You are like juveniles. you missed the early adopter phase and you think it's unfair. tough shit. life ain't fair. It'll be even less fair when your shitcoin tanks but I won't invade your space and gloat about it cuz, you know, I'm better than you. Now do me the favor of fucking off and possibly dying, but that last part is up to you. Thanks.

LMAO

Best rage post in a LONG, LONG time. Sad Shibe  Kiss

This gonna be good on REDDIT  Grin  Grin  Grin

              Such Thanks!
                                                Much Appreciate!
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Sine secretum non libertas
Sure seems like someone is trying to manipulate the market.   Lots of 0.01 and now many trades for way below ask.  

Everybody wants to rule the world.

The minimum size trades are usually there to probe for dark liquidity.  Folks (bots and punters alike) want to know if there's a hoard they can snatch in order to move their order ticket without market slippage.

It's really nothing to get in a lather about.  Wherever there are hidden orders, there will be probes. 

I do wish the price charts would show liquidity isoquants, though.  Nobody usually cares what the price is at which you can move 0.01 bitcoin.
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Sure seems like someone is trying to manipulate the market.   Lots of 0.01 and now many trades for way below ask.   Look at that spate of 820 buys.   (bitstamp)

They seem to be trying to trigger bot dumps.

Pain the arse cunting bots trying to manipulate market in certain direction or pull in fresh capital are a fact of Bitcoin exchanges everywhere. Just try profiting from a bot created dip or surge, be lucky to sell (or buy depending on which way it is being pushed) 0.01 Bitcoin at ask wall before a bot playing pass the parcel with its masters coins steps and undercuts/overbids, whatever is required to prevent thet bot owners losaing coins to Joe Public as a consequence of their own market engineering efforts.


Nothing pisses me off more than 0.01 Bitcoin inspired $10 hikes or dips in price, only for a big order to trigger the price in a direction, and then for a further 0.01 Bitcoin sale to completely distort picture of buying momentum......u become aware of this bullshit if u sit studying graphs as long as I have been recently.
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Hide your women
It's because Emptygox doesn't spit out the money it owes its customers.
Does this have any relation with MtGOX's withdrawal delays?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/23/4651926/us-government-seized-5-million-from-bitcoin-behemoth-mt-gox

Is it confirmed that JPY withdrawals work?  What prevents one from withdrawing in JPY and then converting to USD by other channels?

Nothing, that channel of arbitrage works afaik. SEPA (I hear up to 5-6 weeks) and JPY (I hear up to 1-2 weeks) have some delays as well though. SWIFT on the other hand will never go through, as the queue dates back more than half a year and it's growing.

Im in Canada, does this mean I am never getting my 2.5k out of gox Huh
I'm in Canada also, I briefly looked at Gox, but I could not see any reliable way to get fiat in or out. (as a miner, getting fiat out is a bit of a concern)

luckily cavirtex opened soon after and now I can get fiat out in a couple days instead of a couple months...

This sucks, because now I have to wait till the coin goes down in price to buy back what I sold them for, to top it off they haven't verified my account yet. It has been more than 3 weeks

The price prolly won't drop at Gox because too many people like us are waiting for it to happen. They'd have to make some major announcement like a deal with a big bank to fully automate SWIFT withdrawals and I really doubt that will occur. Best thing IMHO would be for Mark K to sell out to someone who has his shit together.  Some smart VC should be making him a sales pitch on that right now. Gox is hemorrhaging market share and that price differential (that is widening) is just the sound of a dying beast.  

I will be happy if it goes to about 880. Do you think its a possibility?

of course it's possible, but by no means certain. It may take weeks, months or eternity so it depends on how long you can afford to wait. MtGox could just go out of business and then you're stuck at 100% loss. Tough call, I know. Really hope it works out for you.
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It's because Emptygox doesn't spit out the money it owes its customers.
Does this have any relation with MtGOX's withdrawal delays?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/23/4651926/us-government-seized-5-million-from-bitcoin-behemoth-mt-gox

Is it confirmed that JPY withdrawals work?  What prevents one from withdrawing in JPY and then converting to USD by other channels?

Nothing, that channel of arbitrage works afaik. SEPA (I hear up to 5-6 weeks) and JPY (I hear up to 1-2 weeks) have some delays as well though. SWIFT on the other hand will never go through, as the queue dates back more than half a year and it's growing.

Im in Canada, does this mean I am never getting my 2.5k out of gox Huh
I'm in Canada also, I briefly looked at Gox, but I could not see any reliable way to get fiat in or out. (as a miner, getting fiat out is a bit of a concern)

luckily cavirtex opened soon after and now I can get fiat out in a couple days instead of a couple months...

This sucks, because now I have to wait till the coin goes down in price to buy back what I sold them for, to top it off they haven't verified my account yet. It has been more than 3 weeks

The price prolly won't drop at Gox because too many people like us are waiting for it to happen. They'd have to make some major announcement like a deal with a big bank to fully automate SWIFT withdrawals and I really doubt that will occur. Best thing IMHO would be for Mark K to sell out to someone who has his shit together.  Some smart VC should be making him a sales pitch on that right now. Gox is hemorrhaging market share and that price differential (that is widening) is just the sound of a dying beast.  

I will be happy if it goes to about 880. Do you think its a possibility?
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Sure seems like someone is trying to manipulate the market.   Lots of 0.01 and now many trades for way below ask.   Look at that spate of 820 buys.   (bitstamp)

They seem to be trying to trigger bot dumps.
legendary
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Hide your women
It's because Emptygox doesn't spit out the money it owes its customers.
Does this have any relation with MtGOX's withdrawal delays?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/23/4651926/us-government-seized-5-million-from-bitcoin-behemoth-mt-gox

Is it confirmed that JPY withdrawals work?  What prevents one from withdrawing in JPY and then converting to USD by other channels?

Nothing, that channel of arbitrage works afaik. SEPA (I hear up to 5-6 weeks) and JPY (I hear up to 1-2 weeks) have some delays as well though. SWIFT on the other hand will never go through, as the queue dates back more than half a year and it's growing.

Im in Canada, does this mean I am never getting my 2.5k out of gox Huh
I'm in Canada also, I briefly looked at Gox, but I could not see any reliable way to get fiat in or out. (as a miner, getting fiat out is a bit of a concern)

luckily cavirtex opened soon after and now I can get fiat out in a couple days instead of a couple months...

This sucks, because now I have to wait till the coin goes down in price to buy back what I sold them for, to top it off they haven't verified my account yet. It has been more than 3 weeks

The price prolly won't drop at Gox because too many people like us are waiting for it to happen. They'd have to make some major announcement like a deal with a big bank to fully automate SWIFT withdrawals and I really doubt that will occur. Best thing IMHO would be for Mark K to sell out to someone who has his shit together.  Some smart VC should be making him a sales pitch on that right now. Gox is hemorrhaging market share and that price differential (that is widening) is just the sound of a dying beast.  
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This article about the Bitcoins Savings and Trust scam is old news (July 2013)

http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370539730583#.Ut3d3ihCYtU

but I wonder what happened to the 150,000 BTC Shavers allegedly stole from customers.  Apparently he had sold at least 80,000 before being caught.  What about the rest? Lost in day trading?
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Strange pattern at Gox, in the last 6 hours price hit 975 about 40 times already.
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