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legendary
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This "capitulation" has got absolutely no conviction.
We are nowhere near capitulation.

Give us a rough time then
This perspective is not largely based on time. No estimate within reasonable accuracy.

Accurate answer is - there will be no capitulation. Flash crash due to some Chinese shit is definitely possible, and that's only thing that keeps this beast to not completely explode yet (with FUD crap about DPR coins) but capitulation with news we have on daily basis - no fucking way.

Most of those who are waiting slow capitulation will get caught with pants down when this motherfucker jumps. May God have mercy on their empty brains and wallets.

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I'm laughing my ass off. When huobi is twitching and the price is falling 1,00$ instantly the price drops 5,00$ on stamp.

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A couple of corrective points:

1. Overstock.  
They transfer into fiat immediately - probably don't even handle the BTC at all.   So this has little market effect if any.
Also - they took, what 130,000 USD ish on the first day, because of all the hype.  A fair percentage of that was Goat.   I doubt this has continued into anything remotely significant to the overall BTC market yet. This is not relevant to the market price at the moment at all.

2. British VAT.
IMO, this will not be applied to coins, but to exchange fees.   It will not be significant - if applied to coins.  No one would trade in the UK at all, which is not HMRC's intention at all.  This has been misinterpreted negatively here.

3. Fed selling SR stash.
As I said before, this will be a private auction at below market price, probably in tranches. It will likely go to large investment companies, who will only have an interest in a HIGHER price if they are successful bidders.  If they dump, they will lose out, they will be in for investment reasons for the mid-term at least.

So - please can we all think properly and carefully about interpretation of news?




1. So BTC is sold immediately too. Maybe dark sale. Maybe not. Question is do the Overstock buyers buy back the BTC immediately? I'm guessing the answer is No. I'm going to stand by theory that 3rd party payment processors do not help BTC price.

3. They announced it. That was the problem. If they announce the final sale, that might also lower the price.

No one cares what you or I think. It's what the market as a whole thinks.
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"The central bank authority conceded that it has no regulations in place to prohibit the utilization of bitcoin."

Boom. The rest is the usual warning about volatility blah blah blah. So Indonesians, like anyone else, can still stick it to the Man. Like all of us, like always.
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2. British VAT.
IMO, this will not be applied to coins, but to exchange fees.   It will not be significant - if applied to coins.  No one would trade in the UK at all, which is not HMRC's intention at all.  This has been misinterpreted negatively here.



Good point!!! Thanks!!!
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double bottom?  Grin

Go ahead, we need those double bottom gifs now ...



There ya go!!!
legendary
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A couple of corrective points:

1. Overstock.  
They transfer into fiat immediately - probably don't even handle the BTC at all.   So this has little market effect if any.
Also - they took, what 130,000 USD ish on the first day, because of all the hype.  A fair percentage of that was Goat.   I doubt this has continued into anything remotely significant to the overall BTC market yet. This is not relevant to the market price at the moment at all.

2. British VAT.
IMO, this will not be applied to coins, but to exchange fees.   It will not be significant - if applied to coins, no one would trade in the UK at all, which is not HMRC's intention at all.  This has been misinterpreted negatively here.

3. Fed selling SR stash.
As I said before, this will be a private auction at below market price, probably in tranches. It will likely go to large investment companies, who will only have an interest in a HIGHER price if they are successful bidders.  If they dump, they will lose out, they will be in for investment reasons for the mid-term at least.

So - please can we all think properly and carefully about interpretation of news?



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You are Jean Michel Jarre and I claim my five pounds



Hahaha! Awesome!  Cheesy
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This "capitulation" has got absolutely no conviction.
We are nowhere near capitulation.
Nor is capitulation necessarily in the cards.  

I agree. I was going to edit my original post to include a similar condition, but you guys are moving too fast for me today. Cheesy  Perhaps I should have said "this is not capitulation."
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This "capitulation" has got absolutely no conviction.
We are nowhere near capitulation.

Give us a rough time then
This perspective is not largely based on time. No estimate within reasonable accuracy.

Well then how can you say we are nowhere near?
You are looking at this from the perspective of Point A->Point B = time. Capitulation implies a magnitude of price drop. Point A->Point B (and C,D,E,F,etc) can also be looked at as price movement.
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double bottom?  Grin

Go ahead, we need those double bottom gifs now ...
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Feels good to sit 100% fiat until the sleeping dragon awakes. I'm guessing selling should resume in about 3 hours.

What if they buy?

+1 I really don't think people have been thinking enough about the pressure on the Chinese to BUY. Imagine if suddenly you realised you might have more difficulty in getting money to your exchange in the near future, and that this might only become more and more difficult? What would you do?

Whatever your masters tell you to do! Wink

They are telling you that Bitcoin is not currency and should not be used to buy goods!

Well... they obviously know best!

Yeah, but while they are telling you this you are thinking that it's as if you were both speaking a totally different language!
legendary
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Feels good to sit 100% fiat until the sleeping dragon awakes. I'm guessing selling should resume in about 3 hours.

What if they buy?

+1 I really don't think people have been thinking enough about the pressure on the Chinese to BUY. Imagine if suddenly you realised you might have more difficulty in getting money to your exchange in the near future, and that this might only become more and more difficult? What would you do?

Whatever your masters tell you to do! Wink

They are telling you that Bitcoin is not currency and should not be used to buy goods!

Well... they obviously know best!
hero member
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Feels good to sit 100% fiat until the sleeping dragon awakes. I'm guessing selling should resume in about 3 hours.

What if they buy?

+1 I really don't think people have been thinking enough about the pressure on the Chinese to BUY. Imagine if suddenly you realised you might have more difficulty in getting money to your exchange in the near future, and that this might only become more and more difficult? What would you do?

Whatever your masters tell you to do! Wink

They are telling you that Bitcoin is not currency and should not be used to buy goods!
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By interpreting the charts. When the time will come for the last sub-wave of wave C I'll sure post about it.
It could be 2 - 3 months from now, or 4 - 6 months, depending on the amplitude of the drops and trade volume.

2-3 months from now the logarithmic baseline will put the bottom of wave C higher than...a really high thing.
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