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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 31896. (Read 26724360 times)

legendary
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Lower-classed systemic risks: in high-yield markets, be sure not to restructure them.

Say this again, but this time could you pretend you're talking to a smart 6 year old, please?

(or: How would one errantly restructure a lower-classed systemic risk, if I got that right)

The wise trader these days will always cover subordinate-rated asset pools.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Lower-classed systemic risks: in high-yield markets, be sure not to restructure them.

Say this again, but this time could you pretend you're talking to a smart 6 year old, please?

(or: How would one errantly restructure a lower-classed systemic risk, if I got that right)
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
I find it strange that bitstamp is so close to gox now. There used to be a 100 points gap. What changed?

Seventh circle of hell opened up, we're going to $2. At least that's what I gathered from the last few pages

 Wink

I'm very tired and should not be trading this much money
sr. member
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I find it strange that bitstamp is so close to gox now. There used to be a 100 points gap. What changed?
hero member
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I believe BTC should be in the $150 range. There is nothing to support any higher of a price.

What makes you say that?
full member
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My intention is to warn you guys to practice proper risk management because inevitably, even with a small investment, your Bitcoin allocation will be the main source of your wealth. Marginal utility of wealth dictates that it's more important to secure your first million than to make another.

I've seen it go down from 32 to 2 and it was a really bullish environment too until about 14. Don't fool yourself thinking it can't happen again today. That's just the nature of humans.

+1
I, for one, gotta say thanks for this comment, Blitz. I'm new to this forum but really appreciate your comments here-- I know that I certainly have ridiculously risky appetite, despite a fairly good knowledge (for a non-pro trader) of position sizing and risk allocation. Do I properly size my positions, do I use a trailing stop, do I take profits appropriately, and cut losses every time? Certainly, I feel like these are my weakest areas. Finding BTC is probably the hard part. Now that I'm here, I should really exert those controls and be patient.

Do you have any more suggestions on/about BTC risk management? (excuse me, as I haven't read back through the last 20 pps)

Cheers!
legendary
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Lower-classed systemic risks: in high-yield markets, be sure not to restructure them.
hero member
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If your life savings is only $10,000 that may be emergency medical money for your family, money set aside over the last 10 years because you may need a new roof, or furnace for your house etc. is not a lot of savings. Or you could have borrowed against your 401k. $10,000 is not changing anyone's life and it damn sure doesn't mean you're not living paycheck to paycheck.


Well then it's pretty damn stupid to put that money into BTC ... probably the most volatile and risky asset on the planet right now.

And lets get real here .... its this really about 'them' or about your poor trading skills and the idiot you feel for bragging to your friends before it corrected ?
I really think you should consider seeing a therapist dude and stop projecting your sh*t onto everyone else

Seriously you think I'm mad about a post I mad on FB haha. I wouldn't consider quadrupling my BTC and cashing out at $65 more than I paid for it bad trading. I've made a lot of good money in BTC but this round I have definitely sat out. I wasn't sold on the speculation and I still believe we have a long ways to go before mass adoption and a real significant reason to back up the price. I believe BTC should be in the $150 range. There is nothing to support any higher of a price.
legendary
Activity: 840
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My intention is to warn you guys to practice proper risk management because inevitably, even with a small investment, your Bitcoin allocation will be the main source of your wealth. Marginal utility of wealth dictates that it's more important to secure your first million than to make another.

I've seen it go down from 32 to 2 and it was a really bullish environment too until about 14. It was a long drawn out process with countless bull traps over the course of 6 months. Don't fool yourself thinking it can't happen again today. That's just the nature of humans.
Oh I remember those days, I found it painful as hell but at $2 I loaded up with more BTC than I ever imagined I'd have.
N12
donator
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Yes, we can't have someone sometimes be bullish and other times be bearish. That is heresy.

I'm sure you deserved your fortune.

Thanks, it was a hard process to separate myself from faulty ideas to learn trading. Smiley
sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
My intention is to warn you guys to practice proper risk management because inevitably, even with a small investment, your Bitcoin allocation will be the main source of your wealth. Marginal utility of wealth dictates that it's more important to secure your first million than to make another.

I've seen it go down from 32 to 2 and it was a really bullish environment too until about 14. Don't fool yourself thinking it can't happen again today. That's just the nature of humans.

I really do appreciate you saying this, honestly, even if my reaction is to disagree. It gets really group-thinky around here sometimes and I'm glad you're thinking independently.

I'm sure you deserved your fortune.
hero member
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I smell 2011.
It's really too bad for people who can't imagine how 2013 could possibly be like 2011 because they weren't here at the time.

Yes you're so smart Blitz you were there back in 2011 and you know exactly how history will repeat itself right now in November 2013. Even though you thought the same thing after the April 2013 crash, but this time it will really really be just like 2011. It has to be.  Roll Eyes

After some of the claims this clown made i can't believe he still posts here at all. Some people have no shame whatsoever.

Protip: he's the subforum moderator.

I know. It's absolutely crazy that he's a mod here.
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
If your life savings is only $10,000

you're doing something wrong.

thats not fair to say. We should know better then most that the system is designed to keep people impoverished.

+1 Wachtwoord, you've talked about distrusting your wife and now are slamming those based on their net worth. I'm getting an idea of some of the things that you may mistakenly value, not that I blame you, just an observation. Hope things look up for you (and all of us here) in terms of the real wealth in life, happiness. Cheers buddy.

this is truly true, you the eraly you realize this the better.

thats not going to stop anyone from selling their bitcoins tho!  Cheesy
N12
donator
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010
My intention is to warn you guys to practice proper risk management because inevitably, even with a small investment, your Bitcoin allocation will be the main source of your wealth. Marginal utility of wealth dictates that it's more important to secure your first million than to make another.

I've seen it go down from 32 to 2 and it was a really bullish environment too until about 14. It was a long drawn out process with countless bull traps over the course of 6 months. Don't fool yourself thinking it can't happen again today. That's just the nature of humans.
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
If your life savings is only $10,000

you're doing something wrong.

You're an average middle class working family man.

You know for all you guys that scream mass adoption you're sure quick to call out "weak hands getting shaken out" those weak hands are your mass adopters.

You guys should really hear yourselves
The people bringing the big money will be the same people investing in gold and all the other markets, most of these markets are full of people that have a better idea of how to handle investments than the average get rich quick clueless Joe. The market will likely become less volatile too as more and more people join.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
If your life savings is only $10,000

you're doing something wrong.

You're an average middle class working family man.

You know for all you guys that scream mass adoption you're sure quick to call out "weak hands getting shaken out" those weak hands are your mass adopters.

You guys should really hear yourselves

You sound like you leveraged long at the peak
hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
If your life savings is only $10,000

you're doing something wrong.

You're an average middle class working family man.

You know for all you guys that scream mass adoption you're sure quick to call out "weak hands getting shaken out" those weak hands are your mass adopters.

You guys should really hear yourselves
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
If your life savings is only $10,000

you're doing something wrong.

thats not fair to say. We should know better then most that the system is designed to keep people impoverished.

+1 Wachtwoord, you've talked about distrusting your wife and now are slamming those based on their net worth. I'm getting an idea of some of the things that you may mistakenly value, not that I blame you, just an observation. Hope things look up for you (and all of us here) in terms of the real wealth in life, happiness. Cheers buddy.
N12
donator
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1010
Right, someone trading successfully practicing risk management while profiting of BTC must predict everything 100% in order to do so. Cheesy

For me it's all about reliably growing my wealth by identifying good opportunities and taking them. Bitcoin is just one particularly profitable asset. For you it's about holding Bitcoin forever. Both can work. I also have some BTC I will never sell.

By the way, I used to be a permabull "hold forever" too.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
I smell 2011.
It's really too bad for people who can't imagine how 2013 could possibly be like 2011 because they weren't here at the time.

Yes you're so smart Blitz you were there back in 2011 and you know exactly how history will repeat itself right now in November 2013. Even though you thought the same thing after the April 2013 crash, but this time it will really really be just like 2011. It has to be.  Roll Eyes

After some of the claims this clown made i can't believe he still posts here at all. Some people have no shame whatsoever.

Protip: he's the subforum moderator.
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