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So your confident this pricing isn't a trap...
at least you have balls.  Grin
Like most of us here: Low volume makes me indecisive.

A 'what' trap ? Bull trap ... yeah, that's where my money is placed
Gotta make a decision sometimes ... indecision can hurt more than losing money  Tongue

Definitely a conspiracy though, whatever happens - of that much I am sure  Cheesy

legendary
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So your confident this pricing isn't a trap...
at least you have balls.  Grin
Like most of us here: Low volume makes me indecisive.

I believe the low bid depth is complete BS, there are big buyers waiting for dips there's no question. they use to be cocky flashing their big walls,  now they are just being sneaky!

10c
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So your confident this pricing isn't a trap...
at least you have balls.  Grin
Like most of us here: Low volume makes me indecisive.
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Bitcoin Baby is alive and well.


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Phew ...
That's good news  Cheesy

Bitcoin baby got da moves ... oh yeah ... go baby
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sr. member
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yes i do believe 180$ in 13days, this is why i will panic buy at 111


Didn't you say $110 previously?

Nah, he said that he will panic buy at 111 "like everyone else"
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yes i do believe 180$ in 13days, this is why i will panic buy at 111


Didn't you say $110 previously?
legendary
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Ok back on topic as this is not the tread for this I think  Roll Eyes

for what price did you buy in adam?

He most likely didn't, he does not believe in the 180$ in 13 days bullshit himself.

But what about the Bitcoin Baby ??

Guess it got aborted.

Bitcoin Baby is alive and well.
sr. member
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Ok back on topic as this is not the tread for this I think  Roll Eyes

for what price did you buy in adam?

He most likely didn't, he does not believe in the 180$ in 13 days bullshit himself.

I got some at 106, the lowest price on virtex today   Grin

yes i do believe 180$ in 13days, this is why i will panic buy at 111


111 already happened, and you were online at that time and decided not to buy. If you believe in 180 why you refused a bet?
legendary
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Ok back on topic as this is not the tread for this I think  Roll Eyes

for what price did you buy in adam?

He most likely didn't, he does not believe in the 180$ in 13 days bullshit himself.

I got some at 106, the lowest price on virtex today   Grin

yes i do believe 180$ in 13days, this is why i will panic buy at 111
sr. member
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Ok back on topic as this is not the tread for this I think  Roll Eyes

for what price did you buy in adam?

He most likely didn't, he does not believe in the 180$ in 13 days bullshit himself.

But what about the Bitcoin Baby ??

Guess it got aborted.
hero member
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Merit: 1000
Ok back on topic as this is not the tread for this I think  Roll Eyes

for what price did you buy in adam?

He most likely didn't, he does not believe in the 180$ in 13 days bullshit himself.

But what about the Bitcoin Baby ??
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Ok back on topic as this is not the tread for this I think  Roll Eyes

for what price did you buy in adam?

He most likely didn't, he does not believe in the 180$ in 13 days bullshit himself.
10c
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Ok back on topic as this is not the tread for this I think  Roll Eyes

for what price did you buy in adam?
10c
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These rules are already well established because businesses who transact globally deal with this everyday. When you actually dispose of your coins, by selling or spending them, you have to account for the gain / loss on the coins you use. This requires record keeping, which is probably the biggest issue for non-business users. Hopefully the IRS and other agencies will issue simplified rules, but they certainly aren't going to look the other way if you have large gains from any activity.

Agreed Pale.

What 10c said, is why we pay our officials, to work these things out. At least we have declared something.

I agree but you have to let the fiat conversion out of the equation.
In an ideal world I could pay for food at every store with btc, pay for rent (denominated in BTC) and the rest of it...
so if you don't sell them it's hard to tax them.
as an example:
I walk in to the local Benz dealer and buy that new E-class.
E-class=X BTC but E-class=Y euro. Now the IRS taxes on the conversion rate at the point in time you made the purchase.
This would lead to shit load of work for them.
an other problem is that when I walk in to the dealership to buy that car vat (and the illegal according to EU law) BMP are already included in the sales price. so now what?
Can we pay our officials in BTC?  Wink
legendary
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some fool sold me bitcoin!
 Cheesy
legendary
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Well the major problem I see with taxing bitcoin income is the same one we have right now.
How do you value a coin?
so I earned 10 coins today-> this can buy me a nice tv today but tomorrow the same tv costs 15 coins.
so I earn 40 coins a month what taxbox does this fit? 45% or 52%? and why am I in a certain taxbox while coins increase or decrease in value?


These rules are already well established because businesses who transact globally deal with this everyday. When you actually dispose of your coins, by selling or spending them, you have to account for the gain / loss on the coins you use. This requires record keeping, which is probably the biggest issue for non-business users. Hopefully the IRS and other agencies will issue simplified rules, but they certainly aren't going to look the other way if you have large gains from any activity.

Agreed Pale.

What 10c said, is why we pay our officials, to work these things out. At least we have declared something.
legendary
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But the reptile knows some good saunas he could entertain them in. Those officials like things like that!

He probably already has those officials in his pocket like a handful of satoshis. Smiley

I think your sig is perfect, in this context!
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This is only true if you convert to fiat.
The article I linked to states receiving paycheck in BTC not receive BTC and convert to euro or usd.
This changes the game. They state BTC doen't meet the requirements of a currency under current law.

I think this spawned because of a major IT company payed out the anual 'vacation money' in BTC

Ah, if you are paid in Bitcoin, it does complicate things a bit. In that case, you use the conversion rate at the time of receipt of the coins to calculate your income, and that then becomes your "basis" in the coins. When you eventually convert the coins to fiat by selling or spending, you recognize the difference between the value you receive and your basis as profit / loss for tax purposes.
sr. member
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Well the major problem I see with taxing bitcoin income is the same one we have right now.
How do you value a coin?
so I earned 10 coins today-> this can buy me a nice tv today but tomorrow the same tv costs 15 coins.
so I earn 40 coins a month what taxbox does this fit? 45% or 52%? and why am I in a certain taxbox while coins increase or decrease in value?


These rules are already well established because businesses who transact globally deal with this everyday. When you actually dispose of your coins, by selling or spending them, you have to account for the gain / loss on the coins you use. This requires record keeping, which is probably the biggest issue for non-business users. Hopefully the IRS and other agencies will issue simplified rules, but they certainly aren't going to look the other way if you have large gains from any activity.
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